Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2019 at 9:02am:




thats fine frank   as long as there are no financial  benefits or shortcuts involved.......if a white aussie marries a person of Chinese culture    there are no extras involved....but that is not the case with Aboriginal culture     I dont know of any other country that gives these benefits to a minority group   because of their colour.....

now a group are asking for $290billion... for spiritual damage....

how can money fix that?

How come it's not classified as 'bigotry' to criticise and condemn someone for disagreeing with a silly self-identification?  Is 'bigotry' somehow only the province of anyone who laughs at blatant nonsense?

If I identify as a disabled Black woman who can't speak English - will I get affirmative action and a free handup?  How about a share of the $290 Bn if I identify as a Western Australian Koon?

Capt James Fraser with his ship the Stirling Castle (its cargo was mostly 'grog') shipwrecked 200km north of Fraser Island.
There they were taken care of by the local Aboriginals. With his wife Eliza and 11 survivors were looked after in a place known as 'Paradise' when translated.

The 'reports' later say that Fraser & Co were 'captured' and that Fraser died of Malnutrition and Spear wounds. Eliza seems to have 'escaped' via an Irish convict who just happened to be living with them for some years (obviously not malnourished).
The group was later rescued by a band of European soldiers and she claimed she was mistreated and abused by the Aboriginals.
Lonely Planet founder Tony Wheeler, in his book 'Islands of Australia' says that there are 'conflicting' reports about that moment. Eliza Fraser, being paid for her tales, reports her six weeks up there as 'captivity' and abuse. So it roused public anger and Soldiers were sent up to 'genocide' that tribe from that area.
The only apparent conflict is that the 'others' said they were all well treated, fed and given refuge. But it seems the prima-donas of James and his Wife thought otherwise. It must have been an assault on their egos that they needed to be cared for by 'primitives'.  Roll Eyes But the other reports of 'good treatment' came too late for the Aboriginals who were 'butchered' on the whims of Eliza's fragile little eggshell accusations.

This kinda sums up the entirety of Australian early Colonial History - where one half took the negative approach and the other half wondered what all the fuss was about.

Even during the Aboriginal uprising in the Wiradjiri area.
Many 'white' Families who got on well with the Aboriginals were not attacked and were given a representative for their protection, while hordes of Abos scoured the lands for the evil Whites and their guns after a Greenkeeper decided to shoot one of them on a pathetic whim.

It's obvious that those who take the negative approach to Abos are the perpetraitors of evil in the form of genocides and massacres (because they happen to just have a bigger stick Roll Eyes in their technological superiority). While the majority of Australians appreciated the Aboriginals and did 'co-exist' harmoniously.
One Farming Family were so, when the Aboriginals kept their lands clean, clear and well maintained at the cost of the odd sheep being taken for food. It was a symbiotic relationship. But not all Farmers thought that way and took 'absolutism and extremism' in eradicating 'people' like vermin and pests.

Thankfully, today - we are seeing more of the truth coming out and the decent Australians can 'co-exist' with an Aboriginal presence here, like they do with any other people's around the world that come here.

...but then you have the racists, who can't compete fairly because they are lacking and must 'destroy' the competition at all costs with lies and violence. Much like American Economics works.


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As you can see. A lot of Australian reports on Abos were all LIES. Pretty sure James & Eliza were just Groggers who complained about everything that didn't go their precious way, even when they caused it themselves.

Seems a lot of Australians were 'Groggers' and sought 'violence' and 'power' as the justification to keep their spoiled lives inebriated.

So the 'City' mentality of the early Australian society was ANTI - bush, rural and most of all - Aboriginal.
A lot of reports, sketches of Aboriginals were just 'abusive' in their aims. While many others showed more appreciation for Aboriginal existence.

Got a dirty drunk abo on your doorstep?
Chances are - you deserve it as 'Like attracts Like'.

HERE!  Get your teeth into something real for a change.... this girl's illness and death are shocking to watch:-

https://www.change.org/p/my-granddaughter-died-in-a-cell-begging-for-help-please...

Bloody do-gooders posturing online about people who find nonsense claims laughable and worthy of contempt due to their obvious intent to alter reality ... and who don't give one damn about real people and real issues for Aboriginals.  Cloaked in their ivory towers and quoting a charlatan like Pascoe... a poor novel passed off as history..

James Fraser died of spear wounds, you say - surely that's not evidence of abuse by Aboriginals - BTW - what happened to the grog supply?  Went down with the ship or went down with a belch?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2019 at 1:57pm:


Supposedly, as said by Eliza his wife.
Maybe he was a drunk (transporting his love of grog) and the Abos just didn't like his 'drying out' anger management failures and speared him like the Hawaiins had to spear Capt Cook for his Syphillis craziness?
Considering the other '11' reports contradicted the 'paid' reports from an embittered disgrunted wife who probably needed her dose of grog too.

Pedro Curevo wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2019 at 2:54pm:


Pascoe is determined to stand on his Aboriginality. Pascpe needs his Aboriginality for 'authenticity' (book sales) and to avoid criticisms of being a pandering, white liberal. Pascoe can't demonstrate any links to Aboriginality in his family tree. Pascoe resents being expected to. Does the nature of his gemetics shield his claims from scrutiny? Apparently it does.

cods wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2019 at 4:33pm:


Of course not
They will simply waste it, or as much as they can, before the administrators take over.

On the central coast where I live
They were given a tract of land that the said was sacred land.
They sold it off before the ink was dry.
Then they wasted 1/2 of the $40 something million in a couple of years.
Nothing to show for it.

Now the whyning bludgers complain that they want their money.
But they are still getting abbo handouts and the dole.

None, not one works.

Jasin wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2019 at 4:13pm:


If you deduct all the handouts, indexed, over their history - there won't be much left in the pot... enough for a pardy, bro... you bring a woman an' a flagon and a case, eh?

Not only that, bro - but your Fabled Yellow Man and Fabled Black Man is riding, for the moment, on the White Man's Burden Heritage handed to them to 'bring them up to scratch ... soon it will be "No More Mr Nice White Guy!"

Even the Sallows are riding here on the White Man's Work... Ay-rabs wouldn't know oil from date juice unless the White Man showed them.. and as for the Sub-Continentals - they are riding high on the White Man's education and standards... that's why they come here... because those same standards do not apply evenly 'over there'...

"The goal, really, had always been, first and foremost, to humble the West - to daub the teacher's face with mud - by kicking the white man out of XX and bringing about an end, once and for all, win or lose, of what former Prime Minister Konoe had so aptly termed Anglo-Saxon global hegemony.  The Caucasian bogeyman - and the unspeakable fear that he might really be the superior being he seemed to think himself - had whispered in the ear and haunted the nightmares of the XX psyche for the last XXXX years, since XXXX first fouled the waters of XXXXXX, humiliating the nation by forcing it to accommodate to (Westerners) and their insulting demands."

Boo-hoo.... wait until all the running dogs who think all this Aboriginal activism and demand for huge payouts are all great and good - and it's going to cost THEM... gives new meaning to the term 'Useful Fools' ....