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Reply #15 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:18pm
 
But it is hard to even get work experience unless you are a member of an accredited group.
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Reply #16 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:33pm
 
juliar wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:18pm:
But it is hard to even get work experience unless you are a member of an accredited group.

They could do what the B.A. graduates do to get a job, bend over.
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Reply #17 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:57pm
 
Always do a job, career, vocation and even hobby - that you love doing.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #18 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 9:06pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:57pm:
Always do a job, career, vocation and even hobby - that you love doing.

That's a good philosophy but in reality most people go to work to make a living, no choice.
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Reply #19 - Nov 4th, 2019 at 9:09pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:57pm:
Always do a job, career, vocation and even hobby - that you love doing.

That's a good philosophy but in reality most people go to work to make a living, no choice.


Don't be most people.
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Reply #20 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:47am
 
It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart.
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Reply #21 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:52am
 
juliar wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:47am:
It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart.



My guess is that only 1 in 5 people who apply for Newstart get it.
We actually have 3 million unemployed people in Australia.

The true figures are never published by
either the Labor or Liberal Govts.
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Reply #22 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 12:46pm
 
juliar wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:47am:
It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart.


The way you retards want to destroy innovative businesses like Tesla, Australia deserves to have twice as many people on Newstart Sad You've created no new jobs except to keep realestate scum in a job so they can go around and rip people off on property deals with the blessings of the 4 crooked banks behind them of course.

Can you believe that 5 of the 20 top companies in Australia are banks. What else do we do in this country apart from propping up Shylocks ?

Useless lot of idiots here Sad
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Reply #23 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 2:12pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
juliar wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:47am:
It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart.


The way you retards want to destroy innovative businesses like Tesla, Australia deserves to have twice as many people on Newstart Sad You've created no new jobs except to keep realestate scum in a job so they can go around and rip people off on property deals with the blessings of the 4 crooked banks behind them of course.

Can you believe that 5 of the 20 top companies in Australia are banks. What else do we do in this country apart from propping up Shylocks ?

Useless lot of idiots here Sad


Yes. Where I am. The town has lost 22 shops to close. 3 Landlords share ownership of them all and don't care if they don't fill em. Tax write off.
The Rents for these shops do not justify the fact that a lot of business's make their money through 'online' - not just through the shop door. For a Crystal Shop. Only 20% of earnings come through the door (tourists inc), the rest is made online. The Shop is just a 'window front' now, nothing more. Yet Shop Rents are way too high.
Take in effect that Businesses 'outside' of Town congestions do remarkably well. A Business run on a Farm does very well as everyone knows there will be plenty of direct parking. Side Businesses set up there too, but they never get bigger than 5 minutes walking distance.

It's obvious that Village size or even smaller groups of Businesses away from Town or City congestions - do extremely well $$$. People will come for Quality over Quantity in Australia.
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Reply #24 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 3:58pm
 
Tesla has shown that electric toy cars are an unsafe dangerous waste of time. And the hypocrite creeps that drive these dangerous heaps are supporting child labour in the cobalt mines. SHAME!!!!

The BIG BOY Hydrogen is just around the corner ready to replace petrol and diesel in all vehicles large and small.

The Japanese coal to hydrogen test plant in Victoria is about to start exporting hydrogen to Japan.
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Reply #25 - Nov 5th, 2019 at 11:17pm
 
juliar wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
Tesla has shown that electric toy cars are an unsafe dangerous waste of time. And the hypocrite creeps that drive these dangerous heaps are supporting child labour in the cobalt mines. SHAME!!!!

The BIG BOY Hydrogen is just around the corner ready to replace petrol and diesel in all vehicles large and small.

The Japanese coal to hydrogen test plant in Victoria is about to start exporting hydrogen to Japan.


China is moving full steam ahead with electric car production whilst you delusional LNP f.ckwitts in Australia choose to ignore the future in terms of renewables and battery electric vehicles and are willing to compromise future job prospects just because of your greedy appetite to rip people off on their energy needs with your polluting and environmental destroying fossil fools which should be left in the ground Sad

Good luck with a future that only offers employment to real estate scumbags, baristas and gophers digging polluting sh.t out of the ground that you are too lazy to process or add any value too. Lets see how you maintain your standard of living doing this ? Cheesy LOL
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Reply #26 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 5:59pm
 
The boring bovver girl the sick in the head greeny Scunge is so out of place in an education topic.
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Reply #27 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 6:54pm
 
juliar wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 5:59pm:
The boring bovver girl the sick in the head greeny Scunge is so out of place in an education topic.



Nail is right - we need to use the people we have who understand maths and science
to value add to our raw materials.
We are only good at digging stuff out of the ground and selling it at
the lowest price and then
we let other countries make most of the money out of it.
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Reply #28 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 8:17am
 
Bobby you are dreaming again.

Commercial reality is the key to any success.

If the product is not commercially competitive then it won't happen.

So just using current qualified talent won't achieve very much as they are up against the permanent problem affecting all products made in Australia - union thugs and too high wages making the product too expensive compared to the same product made overseas.

Also our small population means there is only a small market in Australia and so export is essential.

The only products that are successfully made here are high tech stuff like airplane parts which can't be easily copied by China.

The other killer in Australia is electricity and gas prices.

New amazing products result from research such as being done by the CSIRO but they go nowhere if they are too costly to produce.

Any products requiring casting of steel are severely up against it due to production costs.

And the new elephant in the room is the potential for power blackouts as the renewable rubbish frequently fails due to low sun or low wind. For an aluminium smelter a power blackout is a disaster as the aluminium freezes in the pots and takes ages to clear out.

The farcical touting of new jobs making renewable rubbish is nonsense as China already has the market for this stuff and manufacturing costs here are far too high to compete with China.

One area where Australia can and will shine is Hydrogen production as Japan already has their coal to hydrogen production facility working in Victoria.

The hydrogen energy market will be gigantic as countries look for an alternative to polluting diesel in cities.

Of course everyone knows that all electric is no solution to anything as the gigantic batteries required for large trucks and industrial equipment are far too dangerous and take too long to recharge. Electric is only almost suitable for small cars with limited range and short trips. Electric bikes and scooters work OK. You see them on the footpaths.

Hydrogen on the other hand can easily power large trucks and buses and trains and industrial equipment and is quick to refuel. Already countries all over the world are swinging over to hydrogen. And they will require Australia to generate and export hydrogen!!!! We will be swimming in export earned dollars!!!!
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Reply #29 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:29am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
juliar wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 5:59pm:
The boring bovver girl the sick in the head greeny Scunge is so out of place in an education topic.



Nail is right - we need to use the people we have who understand maths and science
to value add to our raw materials.
We are only good at digging stuff out of the ground and selling it at
the lowest price and then
we let other countries make most of the money out of it.


We sell our unprocessed sh.t to china for next to nothing and then china sells us back an electric car at a 100,000% premium and socko still wants to posts pictures of car accidents. That says more about us as a nation than anything Cheesy LOL
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