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Is it really the aboriginals, or is it the nationa
Oct 28^th, 2019 at 4:17am

I have been thinking.

Is it really the abbos who want Ayres rock closed?

Or is it the national parks morons?

I have seen these nutcases in action in many places.
They want to close off as much and as many places as they can, and they don't care how they do it.

If they can't justify getting their grubby hands on land for any normal reason.
They get the local abbos to do a deal and fund them .
Then, once they have the land, they lock everyone out.
They stop fishermen, hikers and any vehicles from going there.
They block off tracks that have been used for many many years.

All in the name of insane greeny mentality.

I'll bet tgat they have had quite some input into the Ayres rock bull shite.

I'll bet, once again, that the national parks have been behind yet another lock out.

And our abbo brethren are probably going to suffer because of it.
But in the national parks eyes, that's OK because all they want is everything locked up tight.

Oh, and don't think they are good for the places they lock up.
They do not manage them at all.
Once accessed and controlled, they just let it rot.

Thanks to their stupidity and idiocy
They have destroyed the koala population on the central coast when they refused to allow backburning, the result was an abundance of fuel, which, when the inevitable fire came, wiped out the entire koala population.

And don't dare mention the micro bat population they killed with their stupidity.
Nor the frogs they have wiped out.

Greeny nutcases without a semblance of logical, honest or intellegent thought.

Probably our slow Ayres rock abbos have been suckered in by the national parks nutcases, yet again.

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Is it really the aboriginals, or is it the nationa Reply #1 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 5:45am I think it is the current times. Lock it up. More than likely repressed white idiots that want to give their lives some meaning. Every time something is closed or made out of bounds, your rights are being stripped. People beg for more law and tighter restrictions.
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Reply #2 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 6:34am

Valkie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 4:17am:

I have been thinking.

Is it really the abbos who want Ayres rock closed?

Or is it the national parks morons?

I have seen these nutcases in action in many places.
They want to close off as much and as many places as they can, and they don't care how they do it.

If they can't justify getting their grubby hands on land for any normal reason.
They get the local abbos to do a deal and fund them .
Then, once they have the land, they lock everyone out.
They stop fishermen, hikers and any vehicles from going there.
They block off tracks that have been used for many many years.

All in the name of insane greeny mentality.

I'll bet tgat they have had quite some input into the Ayres rock bull shite.

I'll bet, once again, that the national parks have been behind yet another lock out.

And our abbo brethren are probably going to suffer because of it.
But in the national parks eyes, that's OK because all they want is everything locked up tight.

Oh, and don't think they are good for the places they lock up.
They do not manage them at all.
Once accessed and controlled, they just let it rot.

Thanks to their stupidity and idiocy
They have destroyed the koala population on the central coast when they refused to allow backburning, the result was an abundance of fuel, which, when the inevitable fire came, wiped out the entire koala population.

And don't dare mention the micro bat population they killed with their stupidity.
Nor the frogs they have wiped out.

Greeny nutcases without a semblance of logical, honest or intellegent thought.

Probably our slow Ayres rock abbos have been suckered in by the national parks nutcases, yet again.

oops ,

looks like Valkie is upset again

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Reply #3 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 8:32am

Easy to read that the only thing that is closed is peoples minds....you can walk, cycle and segway around, or fly over Uluru, it clearly belongs to the Aboriginal people not whinging white honkies thinking they are losing there freedom.

If your ever out there one cannot help notice and feel the Aboriginal spirituality over the rock and also notice the heat is a killer, wander off track and get lost out there are your dead in Albert Namatjira country.

Last time I visited the rock was contemplating walking up it, as it was too hot for the wife, deciding do I go alone, will I or wont I and most people were not climbing they were respecting the signs asking not too climb..

While standing there what convinced me not to climb there was a bus load of Japanese tourist climbing up and down the rock, coming back down sliding on their backsides while wearing white gloves which was off putting, it was seeing rangers having to run up with stretcher to rescue collapsed people being the factor to say bugger that for a joke,.... which happens on a regular basis and with deaths occurring too often, heat and heart attacks...that convinced me not too climb, walk around.

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Reply #4 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 8:48am

It's the Aborigines, backed up by a bunch of limp wristed apologists who still see them as "noble savages" rather than members of our society who ought to live up to the same standards, and who are incapable of the self reflection need to recognise their own racism and the soft bigotry of low expectations.

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Reply #5 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 8:53am

I like the fact that there is a place where Aboriginals can exist, untainted, unspoiled and pure to a time almost long lost to the world.
The Aboriginals in other places have become an assimilation of other cultures; wannabe African-Americans for the Media, Political Activists, dead-beat Housos, Sporting... junkies, alcoholics.

I am proud that we have a people here who have had an experience like no others around the world. There is much to learn from it.

I reckon H.G.Wells would love to travel back in time to enjoy the way of life back then, watching a sun rise over Uluru as Humanity Dawned.
But we don't have 'time machines' and I reckon if the Aboriginals see Uluru as a 'solid rock' of strength for their culture to stay traditionally in existence - then great!
I hope every Aboriginal, and even non-Aboriginal (who hears the Calling of 'The Land') who are struggling to find meaning in their lives - make a 'Holy Pilgrimage' so to speak, to the centre of this land and gaze upon it with others of like mind and kindred spirit.

The Aboriginals have lost a lot over the past 200 years. It wasn't just the British, the whole World appeared before their very eyes. No other 'peoples' ever had the shock of that happening in such a short time, after such a very very long time. The Polynesians, AmerIndians & Melanesians are all relatively young in comparison, with their expansionism.

Understanding many Mythologies around the World, it is becoming apparent to me, that Uluru has significance - not just to Aboriginals, but to the World's 'Story'.

I hope the Aboriginals retain the wonder of Uluru, regardless of 'how' they go about it.

Alas, I fear - the movie AVATAR can warn of a sense of doom. That 'money & power' of not just white man, but even the interests of Africans, may seek to destroy Uluru as a symbol of destroying Aboriginal culture forever. Sad

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Reply #6 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 9:05am

freediver wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 8:48am:

It's the Aborigines, backed up by a bunch of limp wristed apologists who still see them as "noble savages" rather than members of our society who ought to live up to the same standards, and who are incapable of the self reflection need to recognise their own racism and the soft bigotry of low expectations.

But your view lacks a faith of versatility in a people.
Aboriginals can be many things 'now' - now that the World is open to them and the choices of existence are forever of their own choosing.
Why do you deny Aboriginals who seek to retain 'old ways' and traditional experiences?
Should we laugh and denounce all those Whities who still dress in Druidry at Stonehenge, wear Armour at Jousting Festivals, movies that portray 'old times' in England long ago?
...so why can't Aboriginals still have the right to be who they once 'WERE'? Huh

Many Aboriginals choose to travel overseas, play gridiron for the Buccaneers, become a Writer in the city of Jerusalem, work as a Miner for a Siberian Company that pays a lot.
But some just choose to stay at home and stick with what they know. After 40,000-150,000 years of 'habit' - some just can't and its like a 'death' to them.

I am not Aboriginal. But as an Australian, I am disgusted by the attitude of a People who can't even detach themselves from a dependency on the UK & USA, who tell others how to live here. Roll Eyes

People like that make me look better than I really am. Kiss

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Reply #7 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 9:08am

Pedro Curevo wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 8:32am:

Easy to read that the only thing that is closed is peoples minds....you can walk, cycle and segway around, or fly over Uluru, it clearly belongs to the Aboriginal people not whinging white honkies thinking they are losing there freedom.

If your ever out there one cannot help notice and feel the Aboriginal spirituality over the rock and also notice the heat is a killer, wander off track and get lost out there are your dead in Albert Namatjira country.

Last time I visited the rock was contemplating walking up it, as it was too hot for the wife, deciding do I go alone, will I or wont I and most people were not climbing they were respecting the signs asking not too climb..

While standing there what convinced me not to climb there was a bus load of Japanese tourist climbing up and down the rock, coming back down sliding on their backsides while wearing white gloves which was off putting, it was seeing rangers having to run up with stretcher to rescue collapsed people being the factor to say bugger that for a joke,.... which happens on a regular basis and with deaths occurring too often, heat and heart attacks...that convinced me not too climb, walk around.

I hear New Zealanders are going to ban Australians from climbing Mt Cook and their other mountain peaks. Too many Australians die and cause all sorts of problems.
"Those Aussies are more like Flat Earthers - nothing but 'hills' there, at the most."

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Reply #9 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 9:36am

freediver wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

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I like the fact that there is a place where Aboriginals can exist, untainted, unspoiled and pure to a time almost long lost to the world.

I also like going to the zoo. Have you been to that one in outback NSW where they have African animals roaming the plains?

Let it go FD

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Reply #10 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 10:15am

We are like fenced in sheep these days, there used to be an unwritten rule, leave the gate as you found it, you could go just about anywhere with the fishing gear, trail bikes surfboards camping gear and get away from it all.

Now, the select few farmers have tens of thousands of kilometers of coastline, rivers etc exclusive and accessible only to themselves. Locked gates, KEEP OUT or be shot.
What they don't own the national parks or Abbos own, restricted access or no access, pay here, stick to designated roads, camp there with fifty other people.

Baa baa.

The Abbos are now infringing on farmland and can gain access where others can't.

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Reply #11 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 11:06am

Pedro Curevo wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 8:32am:

Easy to read that the only thing that is closed is peoples minds....you can walk, cycle and segway around, or fly over Uluru, it clearly belongs to the Aboriginal people not whinging white honkies thinking they are losing there freedom.

If your ever out there one cannot help notice and feel the Aboriginal spirituality over the rock and also notice the heat is a killer, wander off track and get lost out there are your dead in Albert Namatjira country.

Last time I visited the rock was contemplating walking up it, as it was too hot for the wife, deciding do I go alone, will I or wont I and most people were not climbing they were respecting the signs asking not too climb..

While standing there what convinced me not to climb there was a bus load of Japanese tourist climbing up and down the rock, coming back down sliding on their backsides while wearing white gloves which was off putting, it was seeing rangers having to run up with stretcher to rescue collapsed people being the factor to say bugger that for a joke,.... which happens on a regular basis and with deaths occurring too often, heat and heart attacks...that convinced me not too climb, walk around.

Let's close this one out - I've done the figures before and the death rate at Uluru is far, far lower than the national average.. no dice there, bucko...

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Reply #12 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 11:07am

Johnnie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

We are like fenced in sheep these days, there used to be an unwritten rule, leave the gate as you found it, you could go just about anywhere with the fishing gear, trail bikes surfboards camping gear and get away from it all.

Now, the select few farmers have tens of thousands of kilometers of coastline, rivers etc exclusive and accessible only to themselves. Locked gates, KEEP OUT or be shot.
What they don't own the national parks or Abbos own, restricted access or no access, pay here, stick to designated roads, camp there with fifty other people.

Baa baa.

The Abbos are now infringing on farmland and can gain access where others can't.

I wonder when we'll see the true agenda of Ayers Rock????? NEVER trust anything politically inspired...

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Reply #13 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 11:56am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

We are like fenced in sheep these days, there used to be an unwritten rule, leave the gate as you found it, you could go just about anywhere with the fishing gear, trail bikes surfboards camping gear and get away from it all.

Now, the select few farmers have tens of thousands of kilometers of coastline, rivers etc exclusive and accessible only to themselves. Locked gates, KEEP OUT or be shot.
What they don't own the national parks or Abbos own, restricted access or no access, pay here, stick to designated roads, camp there with fifty other people.

Baa baa.

The Abbos are now infringing on farmland and can gain access where others can't.

I wonder when we'll see the true agenda of Ayers Rock????? NEVER trust anything politically inspired...

We are being invaded from within and abroad, it would be a brave politician who would go against these invasions in this PC era.

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Reply #14 - Oct 28^th, 2019 at 1:46pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

We are like fenced in sheep these days, there used to be an unwritten rule, leave the gate as you found it, you could go just about anywhere with the fishing gear, trail bikes surfboards camping gear and get away from it all.

Now, the select few farmers have tens of thousands of kilometers of coastline, rivers etc exclusive and accessible only to themselves. Locked gates, KEEP OUT or be shot.
What they don't own the national parks or Abbos own, restricted access or no access, pay here, stick to designated roads, camp there with fifty other people.

Baa baa.

The Abbos are now infringing on farmland and can gain access where others can't.

I wonder when we'll see the true agenda of Ayers Rock????? NEVER trust anything politically inspired...

The true agenda. Close it off for a while. Wait for the rumblings to get louder. Allow climbing again, for a fee of course.

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