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Reply #75 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:28pm
 
What NASA says about CO2 and Global Warming!!!

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Carbon dioxide (CO2). A minor but very important component of the atmosphere, carbon dioxide is released through natural processes such as respiration and volcano eruptions and through human activities such as deforestation, land use changes, and burning fossil fuels. Humans have increased atmospheric CO2 concentration by more than a third since the Industrial Revolution began. This is the most important long-lived "forcing" of climate change


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https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

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Reply #76 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:36pm
 
And a graph with resolution of over 1500 years to prove it. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #77 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:44pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:28pm:
What NASA says about CO2 and Global Warming!!!

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Carbon dioxide (CO2). A minor but very important component of the atmosphere, carbon dioxide is released through natural processes such as respiration and volcano eruptions and through human activities such as deforestation, land use changes, and burning fossil fuels. Humans have increased atmospheric CO2 concentration by more than a third since the Industrial Revolution began. This is the most important long-lived "forcing" of climate change


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https://climate.nasa.gov/system/content_pages/main_images/203_co2-graph-061219.j...

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


Links provided for those who want to know what NASA actually says about CO2 and Global Warming....Those who maintain CO2 is not a driver of Climate Change are either stupid or deliberately misleading themselves (lying)!!!

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Reply #78 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:49pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:44pm:
hose who maintain CO2 is not a driver of Climate Change are either stupid or deliberately misleading themselves (lying)!!!



What is the main driver of climate change petal? Wink
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Reply #79 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:57pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:44pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:28pm:
What NASA says about CO2 and Global Warming!!!

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Carbon dioxide (CO2). A minor but very important component of the atmosphere, carbon dioxide is released through natural processes such as respiration and volcano eruptions and through human activities such as deforestation, land use changes, and burning fossil fuels. Humans have increased atmospheric CO2 concentration by more than a third since the Industrial Revolution began. This is the most important long-lived "forcing" of climate change


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https://climate.nasa.gov/system/content_pages/main_images/203_co2-graph-061219.j...

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


Links provided for those who want to know what NASA actually says about CO2 and Global Warming....Those who maintain CO2 is not a driver of Climate Change are either stupid or deliberately misleading themselves (lying)!!!

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Links have been provided that explain the drivers of climate change....For those who are interested in the truth read the links and educate yourself!!!

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Reply #80 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:05pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 7:57pm:
Links have been provided that explain the drivers of climate change..



The truth is water vapour is the greatest driver of climate change.

And NASA still uses the debunked Cook et al  study to maintain 97% consensus on climate. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Meanwhile Oreskes has put out a new book. The book by Oppenheimer, Oreskes et al. entitled ‘Discerning Experts: The Practices of Scientific Assessment for Environmental Policy‘ makes a case against consensus seeking in climate science assessments.

Oreskes was another who ascribed to the consensus theory. Wink
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Reply #81 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:34pm
 
I provide links to support my opinions....It is always best to fact check people's claims who do not supply links and make false claims!!!

These links explains the scientific consensus on Climate Change in detail!!!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2016/12/14/fact-checking-the-97-consensus-...

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/02/rick-santorum/sa...

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Reply #82 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:40pm
 
What NASA says about the drivers of Climate Change!!!

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Scientists attribute the global warming trend observed since the mid-20th century to the human expansion of the "greenhouse effect"1 — warming that results when the atmosphere traps heat radiating from Earth toward space.

Certain gases in the atmosphere block heat from escaping. Long-lived gases that remain semi-permanently in the atmosphere and do not respond physically or chemically to changes in temperature are described as "forcing" climate change. Gases, such as water vapor, which respond physically or chemically to changes in temperature are seen as "feedbacks."

Gases that contribute to the greenhouse effect include:


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Water vapor. The most abundant greenhouse gas, but importantly, it acts as a feedback to the climate. Water vapor increases as the Earth's atmosphere warms, but so does the possibility of clouds and precipitation, making these some of the most important feedback mechanisms to the greenhouse effect.

Carbon dioxide (CO2). A minor but very important component of the atmosphere, carbon dioxide is released through natural processes such as respiration and volcano eruptions and through human activities such as deforestation, land use changes, and burning fossil fuels. Humans have increased atmospheric CO2 concentration by more than a third since the Industrial Revolution began. This is the most important long-lived "forcing" of climate change.

Methane. A hydrocarbon gas produced both through natural sources and human activities, including the decomposition of wastes in landfills, agriculture, and especially rice cultivation, as well as ruminant digestion and manure management associated with domestic livestock. On a molecule-for-molecule basis, methane is a far more active greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, but also one which is much less abundant in the atmosphere.

Nitrous oxide. A powerful greenhouse gas produced by soil cultivation practices, especially the use of commercial and organic fertilizers, fossil fuel combustion, nitric acid production, and biomass burning.

Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs). Synthetic compounds entirely of industrial origin used in a number of applications, but now largely regulated in production and release to the atmosphere by international agreement for their ability to contribute to destruction of the ozone layer. They are also greenhouse gases.


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Reply #83 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:48pm
 
The old appeal to authority fallacy. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW - you highlighted the wrong bit.

"A minor but very important component of the atmosphere" Wink

"Water vapor is also the most important greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. "

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/global-maps/MYDAL2_M_SKY_WV
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Reply #84 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 9:05pm
 
What NASA says about water vapour and the feedback effect!!!

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"Everyone agrees that if you add carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, then warming will result,” Dessler said. “So the real question is, how much warming?"

The answer can be found by estimating the magnitude of water vapor feedback. Increasing water vapor leads to warmer temperatures, which causes more water vapor to be absorbed into the air. Warming and water absorption increase in a spiraling cycle.

Water vapor feedback can also amplify the warming effect of other greenhouse gases, such that the warming brought about by increased carbon dioxide allows more water vapor to enter the atmosphere.

"The difference in an atmosphere with a strong water vapor feedback and one with a weak feedback is enormous," Dessler said.


People need to understand cause and effect and not cherry pick data and misrepresent the science???

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Reply #85 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 9:14pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 9:05pm:
People need to understand cause and effect and not cherry pick data and misrepresent the science???


Exactly right petal. Now as CO2 lags temperature and water vapour increases with temperature - you have cause and effect bass ackward. Wink

BTW - IF NASA is this important source - why does it still promote the 97% consensus? It has been debunked. An authoritative source should at least change their mind when what they claim is shown to be wrong.
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Reply #86 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 9:24pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:34pm:
I provide links to support my opinions....It is always best to fact check people's claims who do not supply links and make false claims!!!

These links explains the scientific consensus on Climate Change in detail!!!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2016/12/14/fact-checking-the-97-consensus-...

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/02/rick-santorum/sa...

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People need to understand cause and effect and not cherry pick data and misrepresent the science???

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Reply #87 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 9:55pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 9:24pm:
People need to understand cause and effect and not cherry pick data and misrepresent the science???



Poor petal. Started to repeat his questions. Grin Grin Grin

Now as the major source of CO2 is the ocean, and as the temperature increases the ocean warms it outgasses more.

BTW - Did you know man is responsible for only a small part of the 0.004% of the atmospheric CO2?
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Reply #88 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:05pm
 
I provide links to support my opinions....It is always best to fact check people's claims who do not supply links and make false claims!!!

If someone makes a claim and does not support it with a reputable link they should be ignored!!!

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Particularly important is CO2. Enormous amounts of it are continually exchanged between the atmosphere, land and oceans, as land and marine plants grow, die and decay, and as carbon-rich waters circulate in the ocean. For several thousand years until around 200 years ago, this ‘carbon cycle’ was approximately in balance and steady. Since the 19th century, human-induced CO2 emissions from fossil fuel combustion, cement manufacture and deforestation have disturbed the balance, adding CO2 to the atmosphere faster than it can be taken up by the land biosphere and the oceans (Figures 3.1 and 3.2). On average over the last 50 years, about 25% of total CO2 emissions were absorbed by the ocean making sea water more acidic and 30% was taken up on land, largely by increased plant growth stimulated by rising atmospheric CO2, increased nutrient availability, and responses to warming and rainfall changes (though the mix of these mechanisms remains unclear). The other 45% of emissions accumulated in the atmosphere. These changes to the carbon cycle are known from measurements in the atmosphere, on land and in the ocean, and from modelling studies.


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Reply #89 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:22pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:05pm:
I provide links to support my opinions....It is always best to fact check people's claims who do not supply links and make false claims!!!


Yes Petal. According to the IPCC humans are responsible for 5% of CO2 emissions. Which means 95% are natural.

"Human CO2 Emissions Have Little Effect on Atmospheric CO2"

http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=298&doi=10.116...

Seeing as the current CO2 level is about 0.0041% ( 410 Parts per Million) it can be seen that mans emissions are really really tiny. Wink

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:05pm:
If someone makes a claim and does not support it with a reputable link they should be ignored!!!


You mean the way you ignored the NASA 97% consensus meme? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW - You do know that the oceans are strongly alkaline - even around CO2 vents?
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