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Re: Scumo to bribe poor islands with 500 mill hush
Reply #15 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 7:35pm
 
Valkie wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
I WISH OUR IDIOT POLITICIANS WOULD STOP THROWING MONEY AT DEAD SHITE PARASITIC COUNTRIES.

WE NEED IT HERE.

With an ROI of 710% we don't.
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Reply #16 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 7:47pm
 
crocodile wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:50am:
Typical dumbass Nails and his best mate Bobby nodding in unison. Every dollar spent in foreign aid earns us $7.10 in exports you dopey clown. We actually turn a profit. What a pair of ignorant simpletons.

https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-i...


This may be relevant if they were talking about more money they are not, they are just shuffling the deck chairs in order to maximise their own fictitious political credit.
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Reply #17 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 7:47pm:
crocodile wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:50am:
Typical dumbass Nails and his best mate Bobby nodding in unison. Every dollar spent in foreign aid earns us $7.10 in exports you dopey clown. We actually turn a profit. What a pair of ignorant simpletons.

https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-i...


This may be relevant if they were talking about more money they are not, they are just shuffling the deck chairs in order to maximise their own fictitious political credit.

What part of $500  million do you not understand. Sounds like more money.
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Reply #18 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:23am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:55am:
crocodile wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:50am:
Typical dumbass Nails and his best mate Bobby nodding in unison. Every dollar spent in foreign aid earns us $7.10 in exports you dopey clown. We actually turn a profit. What a pair of ignorant simpletons.

https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-i...


Then why has the Coalition continued to cut foreign aid....Your defense contradicts the reality that the Coalition have reduced foreign aid doesn't it???

Huh Huh Huh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-02/federal-budget-foreign-aid-slashed-by-mor...


cockadile is the resident LNP village idiot. just ignore it !

Back to the real issue which is the threat of low lying islands and countries being inundated with rising sea level due to climate change and what is Scumo going to do about the LNP's addiction to coal ? Climate denial is not a policy ! They want proper action on climate change not expensive band-aid solutions which ignore the elephant in the room !

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Reply #19 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 10:02am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:55am:
crocodile wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:50am:
Typical dumbass Nails and his best mate Bobby nodding in unison. Every dollar spent in foreign aid earns us $7.10 in exports you dopey clown. We actually turn a profit. What a pair of ignorant simpletons.

https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-i...


Then why has the Coalition continued to cut foreign aid....Your defense contradicts the reality that the Coalition have reduced foreign aid doesn't it???

Huh Huh Huh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-02/federal-budget-foreign-aid-slashed-by-mor...


cockadile is the resident LNP village idiot. just ignore it !

Back to the real issue which is the threat of low lying islands and countries being inundated with rising sea level due to climate change and what is Scumo going to do about the LNP's addiction to coal ? Climate denial is not a policy ! They want proper action on climate change not expensive band-aid solutions which ignore the elephant in the room !

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Nails, the ill informed wanker. I have nothing to do with the LNP you idiot. The issue has fukk all to do with denial of climate change. Quite the opposite if you bothered to read the article. Simple fact is that foreign aid is cash flow positive but fukkwits like yourself don't bother to try and understand the issue. Every single one of your posts is nothing but a whinge or a complaint. When the facts are presented you do not have the mental capacity to grasp the issues.
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Re: Scumo to bribe poor islands with 500 mill hush
Reply #20 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 11:20am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Back to the real issue which is the threat of low lying islands and countries being inundated with rising sea level due to climate change and what is Scumo going to do about the LNP's addiction to coal ?


And yet most of the islands have increased in size. Try doing some research. Wink
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Reply #21 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:01pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 11:20am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Back to the real issue which is the threat of low lying islands and countries being inundated with rising sea level due to climate change and what is Scumo going to do about the LNP's addiction to coal ?


And yet most of the islands have increased in size. Try doing some research. Wink


Can't find anything to support your claim....Maybe you should back up your claim....The BBC tells a different story....I expect you have a link to prove the BBC wrong???

Huh Huh Huh

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36255749
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Reply #22 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:42pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
Can't find anything to support your claim.



Poor petal. Done in by his poor research skills again

"Contacted by Fact Check, Mr Kelly stood by his recorded words and said the claim was based on research from the University of Auckland.

This peer-reviewed study used satellite imagery to measure Tuvalu's changing land area over four decades.

Between 1971 and 2014, it showed, the country grew by more than 73 hectares, or 2.9 per cent.

Each period of the study experienced net increases in land area, including the most recent decade.

Of Tuvalu's individual islands, 73 had increased in land area while 28 had decreased. Just one had eroded entirely.

Tuvalu's population is spread across nine of its largest islands, with about 50 per cent of its people living on Fogafale, in the Funafuti atoll.

These larger islands generally experienced the greatest increases in land size, while Tuvalu's smaller, uninhabited islands fared the worst."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-19/fact-check-is-the-island-nation-tuvalu-gr...

"Sea-level rise simulation suggests that low-lying Pacific islands such as those in Tuvalu, Tokelau and Kiribati are likely to adapt to the effects of climate change rather than simply sink beneath the waves, according to Kiwi researchers. The researchers created 1:50 scale replica of the uninhabited island of Fatato in Tuvalu and submitted the model to rising water levels and mock storm-generated waves. They found that the highest part of the island actually got higher as rising sea levels and strong wave action washed sand and gravel toward it. They say this shows the islands may be more resilient than we thought as they may be able to change shape to adapt to the climate."

https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/sea-level-rise-may-not-spell-the-end-for-low-lyi...

So we have satellite mapping and models confirming that.

I didn't bother to read your BBC piece.

BTW - I am not saying islands don't disappear, merely that SLR is not to blame. Wink
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Reply #23 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 1:44pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:42pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
Can't find anything to support your claim.



Poor petal. Done in by his poor research skills again

"Contacted by Fact Check, Mr Kelly stood by his recorded words and said the claim was based on research from the University of Auckland.

This peer-reviewed study used satellite imagery to measure Tuvalu's changing land area over four decades.

Between 1971 and 2014, it showed, the country grew by more than 73 hectares, or 2.9 per cent.

Each period of the study experienced net increases in land area, including the most recent decade.

Of Tuvalu's individual islands, 73 had increased in land area while 28 had decreased. Just one had eroded entirely.

Tuvalu's population is spread across nine of its largest islands, with about 50 per cent of its people living on Fogafale, in the Funafuti atoll.

These larger islands generally experienced the greatest increases in land size, while Tuvalu's smaller, uninhabited islands fared the worst."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-19/fact-check-is-the-island-nation-tuvalu-gr...

"Sea-level rise simulation suggests that low-lying Pacific islands such as those in Tuvalu, Tokelau and Kiribati are likely to adapt to the effects of climate change rather than simply sink beneath the waves, according to Kiwi researchers. The researchers created 1:50 scale replica of the uninhabited island of Fatato in Tuvalu and submitted the model to rising water levels and mock storm-generated waves. They found that the highest part of the island actually got higher as rising sea levels and strong wave action washed sand and gravel toward it. They say this shows the islands may be more resilient than we thought as they may be able to change shape to adapt to the climate."

https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/sea-level-rise-may-not-spell-the-end-for-low-lyi...

So we have satellite mapping and models confirming that.

I didn't bother to read your BBC piece.

BTW - I am not saying islands don't disappear, merely that SLR is not to blame. Wink



This quote is not true....

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And yet most of the islands have increased in size. Try doing some research.


Certain Islands grow because of sediment that deposits on the solid rock base of Volcanic Islands....Erosion is the problem for other islands as your article clearly states....The article you posted also confirms sea levels are rising which will affect different Islands in different ways....You have misrepresented what the article is saying....Sea levels are rising and Islands are disappearing....I am not surprised you ignore facts and post bullshit....Snowflake!!!

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https://www.rd.com/advice/travel/islands-will-disappear-80-years/
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Reply #24 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:05pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 1:44pm:
This quote is not true....

Quote:
And yet most of the islands have increased in size. Try doing some research.



poor petal So obtuse.

lee wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:42pm:
Of Tuvalu's individual islands, 73 had increased in land area while 28 had decreased.


Most. Wink

islands will always disappear. They are a part of a dynamic environment. Storm surge etc will do that.

Now if most increase and some decrease - it can't be Sea Level Rise. It is also along the Pacific Plate which causes subsidence in some areas. Again not SLR.

You now get your science from Readers Digest? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The paper the ABC cited is at -

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-02954-1

And the later paper  -

https://phys.org/news/2019-07-reef-islands-resilient-climate.html

Go back to drooling over Noddy and BigEars.
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Reply #25 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:12pm
 
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Studies on land loss in Tuvalu reveal the following findings. Although both sea level rise and coastal erosion can cause land loss in the tropic Pacific oceanic islands, their mechanisms are different. When sea level rises, the low elevation coastal zone submerges and the erosion datum plane rises, the beach process progresses normally as always, resulting in no beach sediment coarsening. When the sea level is stable, coastal erosion removes finer sediment from reef flat, beach and land, resulting in beach sediment coarsening. The human-induced coastal erosion in the tropic Pacific oceanic islands has the following features. 1) Erosion occurs or intensifies immediately after inappropriate human activities. 2) It occurs near the places having human activities and places related to the above places in sediment supply. 3) It often occurs on original prograding or stable coasts (on lagoon coasts for atolls) because there are more coastal engineering projects and other human activities on such coasts. 4) It is chronic, covering a long period of time. The coastal geological events in Tuvalu islands do not accord with the features resulted from sea level rise but do accord with the features resulted from coastal erosion, particularly from human-induced erosion. The land loss in Tuvalu is mainly caused by inappropriate human activities including coastal engineering and aggregate mining, and partly caused by cyclones. Moreover, all recent measurements (satellite altimetry, thermosteric sea level data and tide observations) so far have not been able to verify any sea level rise around Tuvalu islands.


https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11802-005-0004-8

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Reply #26 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:33pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:05pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 1:44pm:
This quote is not true....

Quote:
And yet most of the islands have increased in size. Try doing some research.



lee wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:42pm:
Of Tuvalu's individual islands, 73 had increased in land area while 28 had decreased.


Most. Wink

islands will always disappear. They are a part of a dynamic environment. Storm surge etc will do that.

Now if most increase and some decrease - it can't be Sea Level Rise. It is also along the Pacific Plate which causes subsidence in some areas. Again not SLR.



Poor snowflake thinks Tuvalu is the only Islands in the Pacific....Only 101 Islands snowflake....The Solomon's has over 1000 Islands under threat....You said most Islands and have once again used bullshit siting only one group of Islands whilst ignoring the rest....How pathetic and typical!!!

The article you posted states the sea level is rising....Were did you come to the conclusion it cannot be sea level rising when that is exactly what is happening....Are you denying sea levels are rising snowflake???

Quote:
University of NSW Professor John Church, who is an IPCC lead contributor on rising seas, told Fact Check that sea levels did not rise uniformly but varied depending on factors such as ocean currents, surface winds and water temperature.

"There is a tendency for sea level rise to be less than the global average near regions of mass loss," Professor Church said, explaining that rises were greater in places further from melting glaciers and ice sheets.

Professor Kench's study reported that the seas around Tuvalu rose by about 3.9mm per year between 1971 and 2014 — roughly twice the global average over the same period


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Reply #27 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:36pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:12pm:
Quote:
Studies on land loss in Tuvalu reveal the following findings. Although both sea level rise and coastal erosion can cause land loss in the tropic Pacific oceanic islands, their mechanisms are different. When sea level rises, the low elevation coastal zone submerges and the erosion datum plane rises, the beach process progresses normally as always, resulting in no beach sediment coarsening. When the sea level is stable, coastal erosion removes finer sediment from reef flat, beach and land, resulting in beach sediment coarsening. The human-induced coastal erosion in the tropic Pacific oceanic islands has the following features. 1) Erosion occurs or intensifies immediately after inappropriate human activities. 2) It occurs near the places having human activities and places related to the above places in sediment supply. 3) It often occurs on original prograding or stable coasts (on lagoon coasts for atolls) because there are more coastal engineering projects and other human activities on such coasts. 4) It is chronic, covering a long period of time. The coastal geological events in Tuvalu islands do not accord with the features resulted from sea level rise but do accord with the features resulted from coastal erosion, particularly from human-induced erosion. The land loss in Tuvalu is mainly caused by inappropriate human activities including coastal engineering and aggregate mining, and partly caused by cyclones. Moreover, all recent measurements (satellite altimetry, thermosteric sea level data and tide observations) so far have not been able to verify any sea level rise around Tuvalu islands.


https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11802-005-0004-8



University of China from 2005???

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Reply #28 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:52pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:36pm:
University of China from 2005???



Yes petal . That's three peer reviewed studies and you have provided Readers Digest. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

So we know you can't count. We know according to you peer review is Readers Digest.

And you want to be taken seriously? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #29 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:01pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:52pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:36pm:
University of China from 2005???



That's three peer reviewed studies and you have provided Readers Digest.

So we know you can't count. We know according to you peer review is Readers Digest.

And you want to be taken seriously?


The University of China from 2005 and the references cited are from Google Scholar....If you looked at the Readers Digest article you would see they have referenced legitimate sources....Snowflake!!!

You have never been to a real University have you snowflake???

University of China from 2005  Grin Grin Grin

Google Scholar???   Grin Grin Grin

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