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juliar

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Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon
Reply #45 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:18pm

Bobby,

In theory you are correct but the need to reduce CO2 we are told is imperative so what is done with the CO2 doesn't matter all that much.

Similarly the need to go over to the hydrogen energy revolution is imperative for when oil becomes scarce.

Now both of these processes need energy input and that is where the solar and windy farms come in producing their erratic unreliable energy at little cost.

Germany is already well advanced on the hydrogen front as well as Japan.

The other aspect which is very real is pollution from cars and coal power stations. Hence CO2 and sulfur and nitrous oxides capture becomes very attractive as well as eliminating pollution from car exhausts.

The cost of pollution is very high so the reward is great.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19179 Gender:	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #46 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:19pm juliar wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:01pm: Pulling carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air and using it to make synthetic fuel seems like the ultimate solution to climate change: Instead of adding ever more CO2 to the air from fossil fuels, we can simply recycle the same CO2 molecules over and over. 100% capture and storage.
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Reply #47 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:29pm

lee wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

btw did you two losers watch ABC last night at 7:40 to see the irreversible damage you are doing to the planet just to appease the mythical growth fairy and the central banks with their printing presses ?

Nope. But i notice you are talking about David Attenborough and he is away with the mythical fairies. Grin

I saw it.
David Attenborough has his heart in the right place
but his evidence was a bit biased.
He never mentioned any record cold events.
He also never mentioned the hope we have from:
Thorium power, fusion power, geothermal power
and molten salt solar thermal power.

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #48 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:43pm Now if only the sea would rise then the Greenies would have some "proof". The real danger is a return to an ice age which can happen when the sunspot activity falls. Is Dave being paid to push the Greeny message like Mr Flannery was ?
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Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon
Reply #49 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:48pm

juliar wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:43pm:

Now if only the sea would rise then the Greenies would have some "proof".

The real danger is a return to an ice age which can happen when the sunspot activity falls.

Is Dave being paid to push the Greeny message like Mr Flannery was ?

Global warming caused by human activity could be true.
There is a lot of evidence for it.
However it could also be natural climate variation.

Juliar - I'd still like to know your qualifications in chemistry?

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #50 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:00pm Robert, suggest you stop dreaming and look at real practical things.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112610 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #51 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:03pm juliar wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:00pm: Robert, suggest you stop dreaming and look at real practical things. Dreaming about what?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19179 Gender:	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #52 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:09pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:29pm: David Attenborough has his heart in the right place but his evidence was a bit biased. You mean like where he just happened to have a camera crew in place to catch the vision of the walruses falling from the cliff?
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Reply #53 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:10pm

lee wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:29pm:

David Attenborough has his heart in the right place
but his evidence was a bit biased.

You mean like where he just happened to have a camera crew in place to catch the vision of the walruses falling from the cliff?

I didn't see that bit.

He never mentioned any record cold events.
He also never mentioned the hope we have from:
Thorium power, fusion power, geothermal power
and molten salt solar thermal power.

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Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon
Reply #54 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:26pm

But he showed how cold it is in the Arctic and the Antarctic.

The trouble is the sea level is not rising.

But the drought in Australia is very real and the hot weather in Europe is very real and the extreme cold in the USA is very real.

And the greening of the deserts is very real due to the beneficial CO2.

It must be hard being a Greeny.

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Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon
Reply #55 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:32pm

juliar wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 7:26pm:

But he showed how cold it is in the Arctic and the Antarctic.

The trouble is the sea level is not rising.

But the drought in Australia is very real and the hot weather in Europe is very real and the extreme cold in the USA is very real.

And the greening of the deserts is very real due to the beneficial CO2.

It must be hard being a Greeny.

The contribution of CO2 from land clearing?

And of the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
humans cause only 3.4 percent of annual CO2 emissions.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2009/03/27/man%E2%80%99s-contribution-to-global-warm...

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Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon
Reply #56 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 11:11pm

lee wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

btw did you two losers watch ABC last night at 7:40 to see the irreversible damage you are doing to the planet just to appease the mythical growth fairy and the central banks with their printing presses ?

Nope. But i notice you are talking about David Attenborough and he is away with the mythical fairies. Grin

he relied on expert opinions from authorities on the subject unlike google junkies like yourself and dimwit socko !!

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #57 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 7:35am The normally ignored loony Greeny scunge is displaying her legendary ignorance.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112610 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #58 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 7:52am juliar wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 7:35am: The normally ignored loony Greeny scunge is displaying her legendary ignorance. Sir Nail is a friend of mine. Please state your chemistry qualifications?
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Turn CO2 back into carbon Reply #59 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 9:22am Bobby I can't help it if you are being deceived. My chemical qualifications ? HHO. What are your chemistry qualifications ? Hopefully you will stop this circular nonsense as it doesn't work with me. FACTS on the TOPIC are required.
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