cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:00pm:



I dreaded returning to find a righteous dummy spit from you, Cods.  But I'm not a coward, so here I am

You must have forgotten your youth.  Is that why you can't see what's blatantly obvious in the linked scenario? 

There are 15 year olds and then there are 15 year olds.  Most 15 year old girls who've been raised responsibly, who've attended sex education classes and who're normally observant would not let a drunk 22 year old close enough to digitally rape them

but if he had, those responsibly raised 15 year olds would not have lain down, for a start.  They would have found a way to get home.  Being digitally raped, for a virgin girl, is a lot to handle, is a shock, etc.

but the girl in the OP decided to lie down.  Not at home.  Lie down at a party where she's been sexually molested

she didn't rip the molester's shirt off her back and toss it on the floor, as most girls would who'd been molested by the shirt's owner

no. She kept that shirt and she went for a lie down -- with the shirt.  And when the molester came looking ahem for his shirt, what did he find?  That's right.  He found the girl of his earlier encounter lying down in a room.  Not a verandah or living room filled with people.  On her own in a room with his shirt, and in a prone position

But she still had a chance to prevent any further intimacy between herself and the molester.  All she needed to do was rise from the bed and exit the room

and she had a girlfriend there to help her do just that

but what did the alleged victim do?  Read it Cods.  Read where she sent her concerned friend away because she wanted to be alone with the molester to 'talk' to him

So he's 22 and blind drunk and initially just wants his shirt

but SHE wants to 'talk'

What about?  How do you talk to a drunk to begin with?  You're talking to the contents of a bottle, in this case, several bottles

and what could a supposedly naive 15 year old want to talk about with the man who molested her (yet she'd remained at the party after being molested/digitally raped) ?

What would she say to him?  A supposed 'kid' talking to an alleged sexual predator?  Would she ask, 'Why did you digitally rape me earlier in the night and that's why I've stayed here, so we could talk about it if you returned to me for your shirt? '

And what would he say?  Would he say, 'Sorry.  Now can I have my shirt.  I want to go home" ?

Would he say, 'Well, you weren't objecting, were you?  If you'd objected, I would have stopped.  But you didn't ' ?


Then it gets a bit blurry, doesn't it?  She's in a prone position and next thing, he's raping her

yet she sent her friend away.  And she's in a room alone with the molester

Did she scream while he was raping her?  Did she call for help?  No?  Why not?  Why didn't she belt him one and run outside to the others at the party to ask for help, for the police, her parents, whomever?

Instead, she did not alert others, did not ask for help, did not run from the room.  She told a friend in a text or whatever.  Then told others

and did they question her as to HER behaviours and reactions that night? 

Or is the word RAPE all it takes for people to begin acting as if he's Marqis de Sade and she the Virgin Mary?

He read her hormonal signals which she now denies.  And the judge, aware of the heated climate currently surrounding rape and 'poor women', set the guy on a path from which he'll never be able to recover


I will NOT be surprised if the girl writes to him while he's inside.  And I make no apologies

as to the girl claiming she'll 'never recover'


I bet she does

What she might not recover from in that particular town/region, are people's opinions about her behaviours, which are definitely in question on that particular night


all just my personal opinion, of course

When my daughter was 14 she was being influenced by a girl friend with a reputation for being wild, jumping out of the window at midnight & sneeking off to see young men 6 & 7 years older.

And despite all the warnings given her she got tangled up with a 21 yr old no hoper.

I went to the Police to seek assistance as I considered his actions "carnal knowledge".

I was advised that bringing a case would be difficult as my daughter may become a hostile witness as she had consented. (she had got the guilts and told her mother and I.)

They told me I should just pay him a visit ... but not punch him in the face to leave visible marks.

I thought that was pretty piss poor on their behalf.

None the less over the next few months I hounded that bastard out of the neighborhood.

He could run faster than I ... but I went close a couple of times.

I've never forgotten what that bastard did to my little girl .................. and I'll never understand why & what a 21 yr old had in common with a 14 yr old immature girl .......

other than a sick sexual conquest thing that some arseholes had at the time .....

called scoring a baldy fork. 

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/central-coast/liam-huxley-jailed-for...

Liam Huxley had returned from a year-and-a-half overseas where he was using ecstasy most weekends and loved getting drunk at any opportunity.

He had been invited to a friend’s 21st birthday party at a rural property near Ourimbah in October 2017 where he was hoping to score with a girl he’d had his eye on.

But when she turned up on the arm of another bloke he started drinking hard and tried not to show his disappointment.

He struck up a conversation with a girl, who he said told him she was 17, and they flirted.

She was cold, so he offered his flannelette shirt.

He sat with arm around her shoulder, she touched his leg.

But she started feeling unwell from the grog and went into a cabin on the property to lie down on a couch.

Huxley, a well respected junior soccer referee, followed her in and lifted her legs across his lap.

He started to assault her with his hand until someone else walked in and the girl, who was actually just 15, left for the main house to go to bed.

She sent a text to a friend complaining she had been “touched”.

After 12 drinks and one “cone” of cannabis that evening, Huxley wanted to get his shirt back and entered the room where the girl was asleep under the covers.

He was followed into the room by one of the girl’s friends who wanted to check on her.

The girl woke up and asked her friend to leave because she wanted to speak to Huxley about what happened earlier.

But he walked around to the side of the bed, climbed on top of her and raped her “vigorously”, scratching her back, a court heard.

The shocked girl called a friend and told another via Facebook Messanger “he f...d me” before her friend’s mum came to collect them both.

During the ride home the girl disclosed what happened to her by typing notes into her phone. Her friend’s mother then offered to take her to hospital where she underwent a Sexual Assault Investigation Kit (SAIK) examination and spoke to police.

Huxley, a former Gosford High School student who lost interest in studies and was expelled in Year 9, was later arrested and charged with four counts of aggravated sexual assault.

In January this year, on the first day of his trial Huxley pleaded guilty to two counts of having sexual intercourse with a person aged between 14 and 16.

The other charges were withdrawn.


Huxley had returned to Australia after a year overseas. Picture: Facebook
Huxley, now aged 22, was yesterday sentenced in Gosford District Court to a year and eight months jail with a non-parole period of 10 months.

Fighting back tears Huxley, who had been on bail, was led into custody.

Reading from the girl’s victim impact statement, Judge Tanya Bright said the rape caused her to “throw up my meals”, quit her job and became alienated from her friends.

Judge Bright said it was the “hardest thing she had been through” and it would likely affect her for “the rest of her life”.

In sentencing Huxley, Judge Bright said his offending was below the high range of objective seriousness, he had good prospects of rehabilitation and had come to “fully understand his offending”.

He will be eligible for parole in March 2020.




as the judge has said  this young women will be very lucky to get over this...we cannot be sure what goes through a rapists mind   at the time  but it surely is never concern for the women involved....and how this act might affect her for the rest of her life..

I often wonder what do the parents of these young men feel?.. we never hear from them   or the parents of the victim....I dont believe they are untouched by these events.....perhaps if we heard how it affects them   maybe some young men would actually think twice...from what I can gather most rapes have a certain amount of planning to them....

cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 2:40pm:


Better take this one down, dear.

He's not tinted.

PZ547 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2019 at 10:22am:


Was a long time ago now ..... 24 years ago.

I used it as an example of how difficult it is to define some of these occurrences ....

for me it was as good as a rape ... he being an adult & she a minor.

but she consented .... and the coppers were indifferent.

I know what can happened when girls who are physically mature and lie about their age .... then cry foul after consent ....

a couple of my mates were in court in the mid 70's on carnal knowledge charges and they were 4 to 6 years older than me.