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Reply #15 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 5:56pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 3:33pm:
He appears like a typical desperate graduate from the Haji Gordon school of love with a practical session on British women partners who are often stated to have less animation during lovemaking than a cadaver.


Can you please elaborate on why rape has anything to do with me?
Don't be shy now.


Is rape a postgraduate course?



in your head probably!
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Reply #16 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:18pm
 
He was horny.  The girl he wanted wasn't available.  He cosied up with a girl who said she was 17.  She was cold.  He put his coat around her.  She touched his leg.  He digitally raped her

She went to lie down. He went to tie one on.

He returned to where she was to get his shirt/coat back from her  Her girlfriend was reading unspoken messages and stuck around to protect her friend

The alleged victim sent her friend away.  Said she wanted to 'talk' to the man who'd recently digitally raped her

??

wanted to talk to him?  To tell him off -- which can be done in two seconds with a sharp 'Buzz off, I'm telling on you !'

but no, she wanted to 'talk' to him
alone

he regarded all that as an invitation.  Most men would

afterwards, possibly sobering up and scared she might be pregnant and what would people say, particularly mum and dad

she put it around that he'd raped her

The court sort of granted her post-virgin victim status

and I'm sure mum, dad, other family and a few friends will go along with that, as will the alleged victim

The guy's life has taken a decided downward turn simply because his hormones correctly read the message her hormones were sending him

I wouldn't be surprised if she writes to him in prison
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Re: just another rape!
Reply #17 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:27pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:18pm:
he regarded all that as an invitation.  Most men would




And there you have it, right there



It's amazing what some men will regard as invitations. We have an example (well, 2) right here.

And while this remains the case, there will be rape.
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Reply #18 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:39pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:18pm:
wanted to talk to him?  To tell him off -- which can be done in two seconds with a sharp 'Buzz off, I'm telling on you !'

but no, she wanted to 'talk' to him
alone

he regarded all that as an invitation.  Most men would



bullshit. I certainly wouldn't .... shows just what sort of 'man' (and I use the term loosely) you are
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #19 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:49pm
 
I suspect people have not read the OP properly.  The bloke plead guilty to what was (in my day) unlawful carnal knowledge...meaning having sexual activity with an underage female where there was consent, or as seems to be the case here...lack of evidence to exclude consent, express or implied.

Quote:
In January this year, on the first day of his trial Huxley pleaded guilty to two counts of having sexual intercourse with a person aged between 14 and 16.


The girl was 15, after initially telling the bloke she was 17.
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Reply #20 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:53pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 3:33pm:
He appears like a typical desperate graduate from the Haji Gordon school of love with a practical session on British women partners who are often stated to have less animation during lovemaking than a cadaver.


Can you please elaborate on why rape has anything to do with me?
Don't be shy now.


He wants you to rape him, Gordon.

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Reply #21 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 7:00pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:18pm:
He was horny.  The girl he wanted wasn't available.  He cosied up with a girl who said she was 17.  She was cold.  He put his coat around her.  She touched his leg.  He digitally raped her

She went to lie down. He went to tie one on.

He returned to where she was to get his shirt/coat back from her  Her girlfriend was reading unspoken messages and stuck around to protect her friend

The alleged victim sent her friend away.  Said she wanted to 'talk' to the man who'd recently digitally raped her

??

wanted to talk to him?  To tell him off -- which can be done in two seconds with a sharp 'Buzz off, I'm telling on you !'

but no, she wanted to 'talk' to him
alone

he regarded all that as an invitation.  Most men would

afterwards, possibly sobering up and scared she might be pregnant and what would people say, particularly mum and dad

she put it around that he'd raped her

The court sort of granted her post-virgin victim status

and I'm sure mum, dad, other family and a few friends will go along with that, as will the alleged victim

The guy's life has taken a decided downward turn simply because his hormones correctly read the message her hormones were sending him

I wouldn't be surprised if she writes to him in prison




oh dear there is the other side to you I didnt know about...


its good to know...

I do hope you are not bringing up any boys....
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Re: just another rape!
Reply #22 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 7:04pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 3:33pm:
He appears like a typical desperate graduate from the Haji Gordon school of love with a practical session on British women partners who are often stated to have less animation during lovemaking than a cadaver.


Shaddup you - or I'll come down that link an' rip yer bloody arms orf...
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Reply #23 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 7:06pm
 
AiA wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:53pm:
Gordon wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 3:33pm:
He appears like a typical desperate graduate from the Haji Gordon school of love with a practical session on British women partners who are often stated to have less animation during lovemaking than a cadaver.


Can you please elaborate on why rape has anything to do with me?
Don't be shy now.


He wants you to rape him, Gordon.



Nobody is that desperate....
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Reply #24 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 7:21pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 7:00pm:
PZ547 wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:18pm:
He was horny.  The girl he wanted wasn't available.  He cosied up with a girl who said she was 17.  She was cold.  He put his coat around her.  She touched his leg.  He digitally raped her

She went to lie down. He went to tie one on.

He returned to where she was to get his shirt/coat back from her  Her girlfriend was reading unspoken messages and stuck around to protect her friend

The alleged victim sent her friend away.  Said she wanted to 'talk' to the man who'd recently digitally raped her

??

wanted to talk to him?  To tell him off -- which can be done in two seconds with a sharp 'Buzz off, I'm telling on you !'

but no, she wanted to 'talk' to him
alone

he regarded all that as an invitation.  Most men would

afterwards, possibly sobering up and scared she might be pregnant and what would people say, particularly mum and dad

she put it around that he'd raped her

The court sort of granted her post-virgin victim status

and I'm sure mum, dad, other family and a few friends will go along with that, as will the alleged victim

The guy's life has taken a decided downward turn simply because his hormones correctly read the message her hormones were sending him

I wouldn't be surprised if she writes to him in prison




oh dear there is the other side to you I didnt know about...


its good to know...

I do hope you are not bringing up any boys....



I dreaded returning to find a righteous dummy spit from you, Cods.  But I'm not a coward, so here I am

You must have forgotten your youth.  Is that why you can't see what's blatantly obvious in the linked scenario? 

There are 15 year olds and then there are 15 year olds.  Most 15 year old girls who've been raised responsibly, who've attended sex education classes and who're normally observant would not let a drunk 22 year old close enough to digitally rape them

but if he had, those responsibly raised 15 year olds would not have lain down, for a start.  They would have found a way to get home.  Being digitally raped, for a virgin girl, is a lot to handle, is a shock, etc.

but the girl in the OP decided to lie down.  Not at home.  Lie down at a party where she's been sexually molested

she didn't rip the molester's shirt off her back and toss it on the floor, as most girls would who'd been molested by the shirt's owner

no. She kept that shirt and she went for a lie down -- with the shirt.  And when the molester came looking ahem for his shirt, what did he find?  That's right.  He found the girl of his earlier encounter lying down in a room.  Not a verandah or living room filled with people.  On her own in a room with his shirt, and in a prone position

But she still had a chance to prevent any further intimacy between herself and the molester.  All she needed to do was rise from the bed and exit the room

and she had a girlfriend there to help her do just that

but what did the alleged victim do?  Read it Cods.  Read where she sent her concerned friend away because she wanted to be alone with the molester to 'talk' to him

So he's 22 and blind drunk and initially just wants his shirt

but SHE wants to 'talk'

What about?  How do you talk to a drunk to begin with?  You're talking to the contents of a bottle, in this case, several bottles

and what could a supposedly naive 15 year old want to talk about with the man who molested her (yet she'd remained at the party after being molested/digitally raped) ?

What would she say to him?  A supposed 'kid' talking to an alleged sexual predator?  Would she ask, 'Why did you digitally rape me earlier in the night and that's why I've stayed here, so we could talk about it if you returned to me for your shirt? '

And what would he say?  Would he say, 'Sorry.  Now can I have my shirt.  I want to go home" ?

Would he say, 'Well, you weren't objecting, were you?  If you'd objected, I would have stopped.  But you didn't ' ?


Then it gets a bit blurry, doesn't it?  She's in a prone position and next thing, he's raping her

yet she sent her friend away.  And she's in a room alone with the molester

Did she scream while he was raping her?  Did she call for help?  No?  Why not?  Why didn't she belt him one and run outside to the others at the party to ask for help, for the police, her parents, whomever?

Instead, she did not alert others, did not ask for help, did not run from the room.  She told a friend in a text or whatever.  Then told others

and did they question her as to HER behaviours and reactions that night? 

Or is the word RAPE all it takes for people to begin acting as if he's Marqis de Sade and she the Virgin Mary?

He read her hormonal signals which she now denies.  And the judge, aware of the heated climate currently surrounding rape and 'poor women', set the guy on a path from which he'll never be able to recover


I will NOT be surprised if the girl writes to him while he's inside.  And I make no apologies

as to the girl claiming she'll 'never recover'


I bet she does

What she might not recover from in that particular town/region, are people's opinions about her behaviours, which are definitely in question on that particular night


all just my personal opinion, of course
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Reply #25 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 8:49pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 6:18pm:
He was horny.  The girl he wanted wasn't available.  He cosied up with a girl who said she was 17.  She was cold.  He put his coat around her.  She touched his leg.  He digitally raped her

She went to lie down. He went to tie one on.

He returned to where she was to get his shirt/coat back from her  Her girlfriend was reading unspoken messages and stuck around to protect her friend

The alleged victim sent her friend away.  Said she wanted to 'talk' to the man who'd recently digitally raped her

??

wanted to talk to him?  To tell him off -- which can be done in two seconds with a sharp 'Buzz off, I'm telling on you !'

but no, she wanted to 'talk' to him
alone

he regarded all that as an invitation.  Most men would

afterwards, possibly sobering up and scared she might be pregnant and what would people say, particularly mum and dad

she put it around that he'd raped her

The court sort of granted her post-virgin victim status

and I'm sure mum, dad, other family and a few friends will go along with that, as will the alleged victim

The guy's life has taken a decided downward turn simply because his hormones correctly read the message her hormones were sending him

I wouldn't be surprised if she writes to him in prison



pz.

the guy was an opportunist .

most men nowdays are.
they are downright creepy.
they dont "own' their masculinity.

the guy could have had this girl (if she was 17) and he didnt have to be creepy about it.

he could have been just buzzing with awesome masculine energy.
she's obviously a bit lost, needs to drink to feel less inhibited.
but young men nowadays are SO inhibited, SO unsure of how to approach a woman in this modern minefield, that they need careful tutoring.

so he should have just chilled and been an awesome confident cocky guy who was self amused and needed nothing from her.
then he should have invited her out on a 'day 2' and he should have just been buzzing off his own awesomness and again NOT CHASING.

now, to get his validation, SHE HAS TO CHASE, she would be chasing him, hitting him up with texts, hitting him up and then and only then when he can look her in the eyes and say "if we have sex , will that be a win for you" and she says "yes" should he proceed.

the thing is, if the guy is patient, carefree, does not chase or give validation, the women will  all chase.

the hungry never get fed.
the guy who already has tons of girls is totally non needy and thats very very attractive to a woman. its called "social proof".  if all the other girls are after him, it makes her even more desperate to get "the prize"
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Reply #26 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 11:29pm
 
All this because some guy wanted a root.   Embarrassed
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Reply #27 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 11:58pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 11:29pm:
All this because some guy wanted a root.   Embarrassed


Bobbi, your perspicacity is succinct. Case closed.

This string was awaiting your intervention to counter the misdirections of Haji Gordon.

Destiny rewarded those who awaited your coming.
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Reply #28 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 7:38am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 1st, 2019 at 11:29pm:
All this because some guy wanted a root.   Embarrassed



for a lot of young men , thats an overwhelming problem to solve.

and their dad "fat steve' has provided a woeful role model of masculinity.

they have no idea how to approach a girl with good clean , non-needy, assertive masculine energy.

so they get drunk and do something stupid and disgusting and fail and then soothe themselves with societies consolation prize for young men...porn, computer games and now legalised pot.

thats what society is pushing onto young men nowadays.

dont approach a woman , its dangerous, do these chode alternatives.

and as young men fall for that crap they become more creepy, more isolated, feel less awesome, feel less confident and women find them disgusting.

older men need to mentor them, but good luck with that.

you do ANYTHING to try to help young men nowadays and the left will try to take you down  Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 8:27am
 
your reply is a bit long pz...

but I was hoping to shed some light on why young men   have no respect for themselves...why they would want to be a known rapist for the rest of their lives....why they appear to have no control whatever...

we take RAPE very seriously these days....and no we dont excuse being drunk either....times have changed a lot.. but not the behavior of young men... hes 22 hes on the first ring of the rest of his life   and he has given himself a criminal record.......FOR WHAT?...

I appreciate young men think its a game  and oh she will come round. I didnt mean any harm....

what the girl did in hindsight was silly.. but it still doesnt mean she gets whats coming to her... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I firmly believe it is the responsibility of the young men who are mostly older than the victim  to realise they are going too far......he touched her inappropriately earlier....at 22 he would know that is unacceptable   at least he should know..

when it comes to rape pz....it does fall on the males shoulders....he is more hellbent on his own wants than hers.....

where do young men get to learn about their responsibility????? 

does rape ever get talked about with young men??   boys even......I have 5 grandsons   3 early 20s   I dont know what I would do if one of them were charged with this....as a grandparent I would feel I too had let them down..I often remind my boys on how to treat females....especially if one of them is having difficulty with his mum...I would not for one moment allow them to disrespect myself or any female I tell them kindness gets rewards  down the track....


somewhere I think we are letting young men down  by not getting through to them    its a violation the mud will stick forever.
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