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Why cut down every tree?
May 24^th, 2019 at 6:52pm

I have driven quite a lot around Australia.
One thing that I noticed was that on many farms there are
huge areas with no trees at all -
in certain places between Melbourne and Adelaide there are no trees
to be seen from horizon to horizon on both sides of the road.

I find this ridiculous as cattle & sheep actually survive better
when they have trees to obtain shade in the hot summer
and as wind breaks in the cold winter.
Trees improve the soil and have many other benefits.
Even after all the destruction that farmers have done Australia
still has one of the highest land clearing rates in the world.

Some links here to prove this:

https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/australia%E2%80%99s-land-clearing...

http://agriculture.vic.gov.au/agriculture/livestock/sheep/sheep-health-and-welfa...

https://www.grazeonline.com/forloveoftrees

I think the Governments should force farmers to plant trees on their land.
What is your opinion?

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Reply #1 - May 24^th, 2019 at 7:52pm

The State Govts. need to step in.

Farmers have to be forced.
They may "own" the land but it doesn't give them the right
to totally destroy that land and turn it into a dust bowl.
Make it a law - they have to plant say one tree per acre at least
and if they don't, they get a heavy fine of say $5,000 per acre.
If they don't pay that fine the farm is confiscated by the Govt.
and sold to a farmer who will do the right thing.

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Reply #2 - May 24^th, 2019 at 7:56pm

Bobby. wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

The State Govts. need to step in.

Farmers have to be forced.
They may "own" the land but it doesn't give them the right
to totally destroy that land and turn it into a dust bowl.
Make it a law - they have to plant say one tree per acre at least
and if they don't, they get a heavy fine of say $5,000 per acre.
If they don't pay that fine the farm is confiscated by the Govt.
and sold to a farmer who will do the right thing.

Corridors of bush around every paddock would make good wind breaks and prevent erosion, and be good for wildlife.

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Reply #3 - May 24^th, 2019 at 7:59pm

Gordon wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 7:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

The State Govts. need to step in.

Farmers have to be forced.
They may "own" the land but it doesn't give them the right
to totally destroy that land and turn it into a dust bowl.
Make it a law - they have to plant say one tree per acre at least
and if they don't, they get a heavy fine of say $5,000 per acre.
If they don't pay that fine the farm is confiscated by the Govt.
and sold to a farmer who will do the right thing.

Corridors of bush around every paddock would make good wind breaks and prevent erosion, and be good for wildlife.

Farmers should be there as caretakers of Australia's land -
not destroyers of our land.
What we have is environmental vandalism beyond belief.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #4 - May 24^th, 2019 at 8:01pm we don't need tree's, we have coal.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16399 Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #5 - May 24^th, 2019 at 9:19pm John Smith wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 8:01pm: we don't need tree's, we have coal Are you going to re-hydrate it and make them whole again?
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 13817 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #6 - May 24^th, 2019 at 9:39pm lee wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 9:19pm: John Smith wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 8:01pm: we don't need tree's, we have coal Are you going to re-hydrate it and make them whole again? No, the existence of Denizen lee exemplifies that such a process is degenerate and retrograde.
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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 95233 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #7 - May 24^th, 2019 at 10:16pm A long time ago I actually voted for the Greens - maybe 15 years ago? But - that party was hijacked by homos and Marxists so they lost their original & correct ideas.
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DonDeeHippy Gold Member Offline Cool Stuff Posts: 2782 Australia Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #8 - May 25^th, 2019 at 7:39am They used to think and a lot of graziers still think that the tree's compete with the grass,,, selective clearing and the shade from the tree's help the grass and stop the paddocks being Barron and erosion .Smaller paddocks used less often is a proven method for better yield as well .
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #9 - May 25^th, 2019 at 10:02am lee wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 9:19pm: John Smith wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 8:01pm: we don't need tree's, we have coal Are you going to re-hydrate it and make them whole again? for what purpose? I told you, we don't need trees.
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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 95233 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #10 - May 25^th, 2019 at 12:44pm Why cut down every tree? A farmer has say a 20 acre plot of land - why not leave a few trees in the middle of it? Did he have to cut down every tree? What was he hoping to gain by doing that?
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20692 ACT Gender:	Re: Why cut down every tree? Reply #11 - May 25^th, 2019 at 12:49pm Dont the government pay for trees to be planted as carbon sinks https://www.environment.gov.au/land/20-million-trees http://www.nrm.gov.au/national/20-million-trees
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Reply #12 - May 25^th, 2019 at 12:50pm

Redmond Neck wrote on May 25^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

Dont the government pay for trees to be planted as carbon sinks

https://www.environment.gov.au/land/20-million-trees

http://www.nrm.gov.au/national/20-million-trees

to claim any of that you need room on your land to plant the tree's in the first place. The best way to create more room is to chop down existing trees. It's not rocket science.

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Reply #13 - May 25^th, 2019 at 12:51pm

Carbon farming scheme pays money to plant trees

First gold, then iron ore and coal. Now carbon farming is shaping as a new boom industry for regional Australia.

While critics of the $2.55 billion Emissions Reduction Fund have lampooned the idea of paying farmers to grow trees rather than stop big polluters from cutting their emissions, proponents say it could help create much needed jobs in the regions.

West Australian Indigenous elder Kado Muir says the $40 million contract won by the Goldfields Carbon Group to grow millions of trees near Kalgoorlie will not only help save the environment, but also deliver hundreds of jobs for Indigenous Australians.

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https://www.afr.com/news/politics/carbon-farming-scheme-pays-money-to-plant-tree...

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Reply #14 - May 25^th, 2019 at 12:53pm

John Smith wrote on May 25^th, 2019 at 12:50pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 25^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

Dont the government pay for trees to be planted as carbon sinks

https://www.environment.gov.au/land/20-million-trees

http://www.nrm.gov.au/national/20-million-trees

to claim any of that you need room on your land to plant the tree's in the first place. The best way to create more room is to chop down existing trees. It's not rocket science.

Sounds like a coalitions sort of method! Grin

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