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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #15 - May 6^th, 2019 at 5:07pm

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Minister of Agriculture Aharon Cizling wrote to Ben-Gurion :

'Again and again in our meetings we discuss the issue of the abandoned property. Everyone expresses shock, bitterness and shame, but we have yet to find a solution. ..up to now we have dealt with individual looters, both soldiers and civilians. Now, however, there are more and more reports about acts which, judging by their nature and extent, could only have been carried out by (government) order. I ask. ..on what basis was the order given (I hear it has been held back to dismantle all the water pumps in the Arab orange groves). ...If there is any foundation to the reports which have reached me, the responsibility rests with a government agency....Meanwhile, private plundering still goes on, too.

'Abandoned properties' which was jew code for 'properties where we've driven out the Palestinian owners at the end of guns or simply murdered them, thus allowing us to describe them as 'abandoned' properties'

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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore Reply #16 - May 6^th, 2019 at 5:13pm . Ethnic cleansing by those who claimed to have been ethnically cleansed in WW2 and it continues as izrail steals more of Palestine every hour
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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore Reply #17 - May 6^th, 2019 at 5:23pm . And here's one for Yadda and the rest Satellite View & Google Earth : Over 6,000 placemarks identifying all destroyed towns, W. Bank & Gaza Strip Towns, & refugee camps. [b] MAP [/b]
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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #18 - May 6^th, 2019 at 6:06pm

Questions, to all those who insist that the Israelis stole land that belonged to the Palestinian people....

Was there ever a 'Palestinian' state in history?

And who were the 'Palestinian people'?

If they existed, you should be able to answer some basic questions about the historic 'country' of Palestine:

1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What language did the Palestinians speak?
3. What writing [script] did they use?
4. What manuscripts did they leave?
5. What was their religion?
6. Where are their temples?
7. What monuments attest to their existence?
8. What were its borders?
9. What was the name of its capital?
10. What were its major cities?
11. What constituted the basis of its economy?
12. What was the name of the currency that they used?
13. What was its form of government?
14. What achievements have they accomplished?
15. What other peoples did Palestine interact with?
16. Where can one find any [historic] records, wherein the country of Palestine and its people are mentioned?
17. What archaeological sites can one name?
18. Where can one find the recorded history of these people?
19. Whom did they conquer?, or, were conquered by?
20. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation [or doubt]?
21. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
22. Can anyone name at least five Palestinian leaders [before Arafat]?
23. Finally, since there is no such recognised country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

Further, why did these proud 'Palestinians' between 1948 and 1967, passively, allow themselves to be occupied by the Jordanians in the 'West Bank', and by the Egyptians in Gaza?

Those Q's [above] are taken from;

Part 142 - Palestine and Palestinians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04iGfi9No6M

Q.
Was one of the great 'Palestinian' statesmen, Yasser Arafat???

That guy who was a Nobel peace prize winner???

Google

Arafat died a billionaire

...while his adoring people, lived in tents, and in ghettos.

THE TRUTH....
Prior to WWI, 'Palestine' was merely a small administered territory, a small part of the Ottoman empire.

It had no formal existence as a national homeland.

Q.
Why do the 'Palestinian' people still exist today, as refugees?

Q.
Why can't the poor 'Palestinian' refugees be absorbed into surrounding moslems states [especially Jordan!] ???

A.
Because the poor 'Palestinian' refugees [SO LONG AS THEY EXIST] are a convenient propaganda 'stick', with which to 'beat' Israel, on the world stage.

The 'Palestinian' people???

In truth, those who call themselves 'Palestinians' do have a state, and a homeland.

It is called JORDAN.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77073 Gender:	Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore Reply #19 - May 6^th, 2019 at 6:22pm Yadda wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 6:06pm: Was there ever a 'Palestinian' state in history? a lack of an Australian state pre colonisation doesn't give the Aborigines any less of a right to claim they are Australians
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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #20 - May 6^th, 2019 at 6:27pm

Yadda wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 6:06pm:

Questions, to all those who insist that the Israelis stole land that belonged to the Palestinian people....

Was there ever a 'Palestinian' state in history?

And who were the 'Palestinian people'?

If they existed, you should be able to answer some basic questions about the historic 'country' of Palestine:

1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What language did the Palestinians speak?
3. What writing [script] did they use?
4. What manuscripts did they leave?
5. What was their religion?
6. Where are their temples?
7. What monuments attest to their existence?
8. What were its borders?
9. What was the name of its capital?
10. What were its major cities?
11. What constituted the basis of its economy?
12. What was the name of the currency that they used?
13. What was its form of government?
14. What achievements have they accomplished?
15. What other peoples did Palestine interact with?
16. Where can one find any [historic] records, wherein the country of Palestine and its people are mentioned?
17. What archaeological sites can one name?
18. Where can one find the recorded history of these people?
19. Whom did they conquer?, or, were conquered by?
20. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation [or doubt]?
21. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
22. Can anyone name at least five Palestinian leaders [before Arafat]?
23. Finally, since there is no such recognised country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

Further, why did these proud 'Palestinians' between 1948 and 1967, passively, allow themselves to be occupied by the Jordanians in the 'West Bank', and by the Egyptians in Gaza?

Those Q's [above] are taken from;

Part 142 - Palestine and Palestinians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04iGfi9No6M

Q.
Was one of the great 'Palestinian' statesmen, Yasser Arafat???

That guy who was a Nobel peace prize winner???

Google

Arafat died a billionaire

...while his adoring people, lived in tents, and in ghettos.

THE TRUTH....
Prior to WWI, 'Palestine' was merely a small administered territory, a small part of the Ottoman empire.

It had no formal existence as a national homeland.

Q.
Why do the 'Palestinian' people still exist today, as refugees?

Q.
Why can't the poor 'Palestinian' refugees be absorbed into surrounding moslems states [especially Jordan!] ???

A.
Because the poor 'Palestinian' refugees [SO LONG AS THEY EXIST] are a convenient propaganda 'stick', with which to 'beat' Israel, on the world stage.

The 'Palestinian' people???

In truth, those who call themselves 'Palestinians' do have a state, and a homeland.

It is called JORDAN.

Israel did not exist either. The West plonked the place there in 1947 and all the European Jews and then later the US Jews went there and they are taking what is not theirs. Plan and simple fact, Yadda.

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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #21 - May 6^th, 2019 at 7:20pm

Aussie wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 6:27pm:

Israel did not exist either.

The West plonked the place there in 1947 and all the European Jews and then later the US Jews went there and they are taking what is not theirs.

Plan and simple fact, Yadda.

Of course 'Israel did not exist either' Aussie.

/sarc off

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Chief Muslim claims Jewish Temples never existed

March 15, 2007

"....The Jewish Temples never existed.......descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged, and that the Torah was falsified to claim Biblical patriarchs and matriarchs were Jewish when indeed they were prophets for Islam."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=40628
the link is old, but the article is kosher

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Temple Mount '100% Islamic'

June 01, 2008

"....Taysir Tamimi, chief Palestinian Justice and one of the most influential Muslim leaders in Israel, argued the Jewish Temples never existed,...."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65919
the link is old, but the article is kosher

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n.b.

And just look how moslems respond,

whenever additional, independent historic sources, contradict the moslem 'narrative' of 'their' history....

".....descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged,...."

Oh, but of course they were!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36189 Gender:	Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore Reply #22 - May 6^th, 2019 at 7:48pm I like to study success but its also important to study failure. In the Palestinian Israeli conflict, we get to study both. If you want to crush it in life, study Israel and do what they do. If you want to be sad and suck , study Palestine and do what they do
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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #23 - May 6^th, 2019 at 7:55pm

Yadda wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Aussie wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 6:27pm:

Israel did not exist either.

The West plonked the place there in 1947 and all the European Jews and then later the US Jews went there and they are taking what is not theirs.

Plan and simple fact, Yadda.

Of course 'Israel did not exist either' Aussie.

/sarc off

Quote:

Chief Muslim claims Jewish Temples never existed

March 15, 2007

"....The Jewish Temples never existed.......descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged, and that the Torah was falsified to claim Biblical patriarchs and matriarchs were Jewish when indeed they were prophets for Islam."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=40628
the link is old, but the article is kosher

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Quote:

Temple Mount '100% Islamic'

June 01, 2008

"....Taysir Tamimi, chief Palestinian Justice and one of the most influential Muslim leaders in Israel, argued the Jewish Temples never existed,...."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65919
the link is old, but the article is kosher

.

n.b.

And just look how moslems respond,

whenever additional, independent historic sources, contradict the moslem 'narrative' of 'their' history....

".....descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged,...."

Oh, but of course they were!

Yadda....just acknowledge the fact that a State of Israel was created by the West to accommodate dispossessed European Jews. Later the US Jews arrived. Then, they started to take.

Tasmania.

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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #24 - May 6^th, 2019 at 10:37pm

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

I like to study success but its also important to study failure.

In the Palestinian Israeli conflict, we get to study both.

If you want to crush it in life, study Israel and do what they do.

If you want to be sad and suck , study Palestine and do what they do

Haha.

So true, aqua, so true.

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I'm not so much into the idea [doctrine] of predestination in the bible.

It seems a little unfair/biased.

....but, i have to accept, that the bible determines that the Jewish people [who are the last identifiable line today, of ancient Jacob] are a divinely blessed people [if they will accept it].

[....after being punished, in the 'wilderness' http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/9#9 ]

Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #25 - May 6^th, 2019 at 10:45pm

Aussie wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

Yadda wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Aussie wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 6:27pm:

Israel did not exist either.

The West plonked the place there in 1947 and all the European Jews and then later the US Jews went there and they are taking what is not theirs.

Plan and simple fact, Yadda.

Of course 'Israel did not exist either' Aussie.

/sarc off

Quote:

Chief Muslim claims Jewish Temples never existed

March 15, 2007

"....The Jewish Temples never existed.......descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged, and that the Torah was falsified to claim Biblical patriarchs and matriarchs were Jewish when indeed they were prophets for Islam."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=40628
the link is old, but the article is kosher

.

Quote:

Temple Mount '100% Islamic'

June 01, 2008

"....Taysir Tamimi, chief Palestinian Justice and one of the most influential Muslim leaders in Israel, argued the Jewish Temples never existed,...."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65919
the link is old, but the article is kosher

.

n.b.

And just look how moslems respond,

whenever additional, independent historic sources, contradict the moslem 'narrative' of 'their' history....

".....descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged,...."

Oh, but of course they were!

Yadda....just acknowledge......

Nope.

I won't.

And i don't have any desire to entertain the worldview of people like yourself, as having any validity.

Andy Williams Sings "The Exodus Song (This Land Is Mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEYmomUuveU

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87681 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore Reply #26 - May 7^th, 2019 at 12:59am PZ547 wrote on May 6^th, 2019 at 5:13pm: . Ethnic cleansing by those who claimed to have been ethnically cleansed in WW2 and it continues as izrail steals more of Palestine every hour Good eating those ethnics, but have you ever tried to CLEAN one?
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ProudKangaroo Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 19929 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore Reply #27 - May 7^th, 2019 at 3:49pm You don't know much about Singapore do you Yadda?
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore Reply #28 - May 7^th, 2019 at 3:53pm Gaza is a nazi-style concentration camp where Palestinians are murdered by Israelis for sport. Israel is committing genocide and has been since 1948 and before.
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Re: Gaza compared to, ...Singapore
Reply #29 - May 7^th, 2019 at 6:14pm

Far, far more Germans, Poles and other Europeans were displaced and dispossessed after the war than Pallos, and across far, far greater territories.
The Europeans and their descendants prosper while the Palestinian Muslim Arabs are still refugees in their co-religionists' countries and where they have self-government like Gaza they spend their efforts and aid money on jihad.

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