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The British were lucky to win the Battle of Britain (Read 2247 times)
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Re: The British were lucky to win the Battle of Britai
Reply #30 - May 6th, 2019 at 9:00am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 5th, 2019 at 5:35pm:
The Germans greatest mistake was lacking a long range fighter with sufficient range to fight over most of Southern England.  The Bf110 was a failure as a long range fighter.  They would have been much better off with the Fw187 twin engined fighters.  Their Bf109 fighters lacked sufficient range to stay on station and engage the RAF's fighters and protect the Luftwaffe's bombers.  The advantage was all the RAFs.


The Fw-187 is an interesting plane. I agree it would have been a better fighter than the Me-110, though I'm not sure it would have won the battle for the Luftwaffe. Ultimately you still end up fighting single-seat aircraft, all of which will have a roll-rate advantage just because of the physics of having two engines on the wings instead of one.

On the other hand the RAF could have done with a heavier fighter to intercept German bombers - if the Whirlwind had been developed a little faster it could have had some success, though again I don't think it would have substantially altered the outcome.
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Re: The British were lucky to win the Battle of Britai
Reply #31 - May 6th, 2019 at 5:33pm
 
Stig wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 9:00am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 5th, 2019 at 5:35pm:
The Germans greatest mistake was lacking a long range fighter with sufficient range to fight over most of Southern England.  The Bf110 was a failure as a long range fighter.  They would have been much better off with the Fw187 twin engined fighters.  Their Bf109 fighters lacked sufficient range to stay on station and engage the RAF's fighters and protect the Luftwaffe's bombers.  The advantage was all the RAFs.


The Fw-187 is an interesting plane. I agree it would have been a better fighter than the Me-110, though I'm not sure it would have won the battle for the Luftwaffe. Ultimately you still end up fighting single-seat aircraft, all of which will have a roll-rate advantage just because of the physics of having two engines on the wings instead of one.


The Fw187 was a significantly better fighter than the Bf110.  However, the Luftwaffe favoured Messerschmidt over Tank and so the Bf110 was built in significant numbers.  The Luftwaffe really couldn't get it's head around the idea of a single-seat, twin-engined fighter.   The Fw187 had significantly greater range than the Bf110 and greater manoeuvrability.  It's use would have significantly complicated the RAF's problems.

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On the other hand the RAF could have done with a heavier fighter to intercept German bombers - if the Whirlwind had been developed a little faster it could have had some success, though again I don't think it would have substantially altered the outcome.


The Whirlwind was hampered by it's engine.  The Peregrine had it's share of problems.  However, the decision was made to go with the Merlin because it was used in more aircraft.  So Rolls Royce didn't have the facilities to perfect two engines and the Peregrine lost out.  I've always wondered why the Whirlwind wasn't adapted to fly with the Merlin.  It would have made quite a difference to it's performance.
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