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Reply #30 - May 8^th, 2019 at 10:27am

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

Secret Wars wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

Impeachment is a political not a criminal action and at the moment and for the foreseeable it’s not politically possible.

Not unless the Republics stand up for what they, apparently, believe in.

The question is now, will lawmakers attempt to change the laws so Trump can't run out the clock in office and rely on the statute of limitations to keep him from facing prosecution?

“apparently believe in”, see there’s ya problem. Democrats or republicans, once up the slippery pole none will give it up. Do you really believe that any major western party that has attained power, is so pure that it will willingly throw it away for principle or belief?

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Reply #31 - May 9^th, 2019 at 1:50pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 10:06am:

The point is that he wasn't charged for Obstruction or Conspiracy not because he's innocent, but because he's the President.

The Mueller Report clearly stated that it's recommendations are not influenced by this practice

There's not enough evidence to recommend prosecution

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Reply #32 - May 9^th, 2019 at 1:55pm

Maqqa wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 1:50pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 10:06am:

The point is that he wasn't charged for Obstruction or Conspiracy not because he's innocent, but because he's the President.

The Mueller Report clearly stated that it's recommendations are not influenced by this practice

There's not enough evidence to recommend prosecution

That is a lie. Report to the White House immediately Mr. Liar. Your credentials are outstanding.

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Reply #33 - May 9^th, 2019 at 5:09pm

Maqqa wrote on May 7^th, 2019 at 9:45pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 7^th, 2019 at 8:52pm:

Maqqa wrote on May 7^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

Trump can only be impeached based on treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanours

NO proof of Treason
NO proof of Bribery
NO proof of High Crimes
NO proof of misdemeanour

There is more to it than that. A large majority of scholars agree that impeachable offences are not limited by the criminal code.

The best definition of impeachable offense comes from the legal scholar Charles Black, who argued in 1974 that a president may be impeached for "offences (1) which are extremely serious, (2) which in some way corrupt or subvert the political and governmental process, and (3) which are plainly wrong in themselves to a person of honor, or to a good citizen, regardless of words on the statute books."

You can read more about it here,

https://www.lawfareblog.com/impeachable-offense

The key word is he "ARGUED"

He can argue until he's blue in the face but this has not be tested.

The law is clear - TREASON, BRIBERY, HIGH CRIMES or MISDEMEANOUR

At this stage they are trying to tie him to a misdemeanour with very tenuous threads at best

Bribing Stormy and the National Enquirer's a jailable offence, dear. Cohen just started a 3 year stretch for obeying orders.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: ⮞ Dershowitz: Mueller blew it on obstruction ⮜ Reply #34 - May 9^th, 2019 at 9:57pm Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 5:09pm: Bribing Stormy and the National Enquirer's a jailable offence, dear. Cohen just started a 3 year stretch for obeying orders. According to the indictment - these were not the reasons Cohen is going to jail
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Reply #35 - May 9^th, 2019 at 10:04pm

Maqqa wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 9:57pm:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Bribing Stormy and the National Enquirer's a jailable offence, dear. Cohen just started a 3 year stretch for obeying orders.

According to the indictment - these were not the reasons Cohen is going to jail Undecided

According to the sentence, they were. Cohen received a sentence of 38 months for electoral crime, to be served concurrently with his sentence for fraud, tax evasion and lying to the FBI.

Cohen protected Mr Trump. We wish him all the best in federal prison.

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Reply #36 - May 9^th, 2019 at 10:29pm

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

Maqqa wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 9:57pm:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Bribing Stormy and the National Enquirer's a jailable offence, dear. Cohen just started a 3 year stretch for obeying orders.

According to the indictment - these were not the reasons Cohen is going to jail Undecided

According to the sentence, they were. Cohen received a sentence of 38 months for electoral crime, to be served concurrently with his sentence for fraud, tax evasion and lying to the FBI.

Cohen protected Mr Trump. We wish him all the best in federal prison.

Read the 22 pages again dear!

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Reply #37 - May 9^th, 2019 at 10:47pm

Maqqa wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 10:29pm:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

Maqqa wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 9:57pm:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Bribing Stormy and the National Enquirer's a jailable offence, dear. Cohen just started a 3 year stretch for obeying orders.

According to the indictment - these were not the reasons Cohen is going to jail Undecided

According to the sentence, they were. Cohen received a sentence of 38 months for electoral crime, to be served concurrently with his sentence for fraud, tax evasion and lying to the FBI.

Cohen protected Mr Trump. We wish him all the best in federal prison.

Read the 22 pages again dear!

Why?

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Reply #38 - May 9^th, 2019 at 10:53pm

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 10:47pm:

Maqqa wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 10:29pm:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

Maqqa wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 9:57pm:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Bribing Stormy and the National Enquirer's a jailable offence, dear. Cohen just started a 3 year stretch for obeying orders.

According to the indictment - these were not the reasons Cohen is going to jail Undecided

According to the sentence, they were. Cohen received a sentence of 38 months for electoral crime, to be served concurrently with his sentence for fraud, tax evasion and lying to the FBI.

Cohen protected Mr Trump. We wish him all the best in federal prison.

Read the 22 pages again dear!

Why?

because your assessment is inconsistent with the 22 page court document

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