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Reply #30 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:46pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

There are persecuted people all over the world, mostly at the hands of Muslims. But if it is Muslims being persecuted, we have to give them special treatment....

So, if that is your position, links?

(I am sure there are ~ hence refugees ~ but I want to see what you come up with.)

No. FD is right. The majority of those claiming 'refugee' status to Australia and other 'better' nations. Are basically 'Spill-over' from over-populated nations.
They complain about 'not enough jobs' in their countries and how they have to migrate to the cities to find work. These are the ones that have like 10 kids and along with all the other families out there - their population growth rate out-paces the employment advance by 10 to 3.
Just face it. You, like millions of lefties around the world are too scared to admit that its over-population that is a massive cause of all these ill effects we are having around the world.

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #31 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:49pm

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

There are persecuted people all over the world, mostly at the hands of Muslims. But if it is Muslims being persecuted, we have to give them special treatment....

So, if that is your position, links?

(I am sure there are ~ hence refugees ~ but I want to see what you come up with.)

No. FD is right. The majority of those claiming 'refugee' status to Australia and other 'better' nations. Are basically 'Spill-over' from over-populated nations.
They complain about 'not enough jobs' in their countries and how they have to migrate to the cities to find work. These are the ones that have like 10 kids and along with all the other families out there - their population growth rate out-paces the employment advance by 10 to 3.
Just face it. You, like millions of lefties around the world are too scared to admit that its over-population that is a massive cause of all these ill effects we are having around the world.

Yep

Hence my offering to pay to have some sterilised. It's for their own good. Because more of themselves is all they are able to produce, generation after the next

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #32 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:00pm

Yes - Australia has an obligation to everyone on Planet Earth....

Sorry, son - Australia has NO obligation - though it may choose to have a responsibility for securing the well-being of some, if it can.

You mindless radicals always make that kind of mistake........ and seek to play wedge politics and politics of guilt on the majority by doing so...

We all know you're wrong - Australia has an obligation to Eskimoes - not Rohingya people...

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #33 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:07pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

There are persecuted people all over the world, mostly at the hands of Muslims. But if it is Muslims being persecuted, we have to give them special treatment....

Any attempt to give their Muslim persecutors 'special treatment' is met with hostility and protest, and name-calling and shaming by the social justice warrior class....... not to mention direct opposition...

Idiots just play into the hands of the likes of Muslim persecutors by ensuring that a caring nation is wrong if they do, and wrong if they don't.. thus advancing the cause of the persecutors, whatever their kind... if a caring nation does nothing to stop persecution, it is wrong.. if it invades to prevent persecution, it is wrong.... so all that is left, in the lexicon of the SJW, is for a caring nation to pick up some of the broken pieces and take them in, in the fervent hope they will not bite the hand that rescues them...

I once saved a baby rat from a tub of water and turned it loose outside... it didn't bite me....

The United States and allies once went into Somalia to cut down on abuses by warlords - using a two-pronged approach of aid and suppression of violent warlords... look what their reward was...

You cannot help that kind... sorry 'bout that.... Cool

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #34 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:13pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

There are persecuted people all over the world, mostly at the hands of Muslims. But if it is Muslims being persecuted, we have to give them special treatment....

So, if that is your position, links?

(I am sure there are ~ hence refugees ~ but I want to see what you come up with.)

No. FD is right. The majority of those claiming 'refugee' status to Australia and other 'better' nations. Are basically 'Spill-over' from over-populated nations.
They complain about 'not enough jobs' in their countries and how they have to migrate to the cities to find work. These are the ones that have like 10 kids and along with all the other families out there - their population growth rate out-paces the employment advance by 10 to 3.
Just face it. You, like millions of lefties around the world are too scared to admit that its over-population that is a massive cause of all these ill effects we are having around the world.

Yep

Hence my offering to pay to have some sterilised. It's for their own good. Because more of themselves is all they are able to produce, generation after the next

The majority of our MILLIONS of immigrants in recent years are 'economic refugees' - they get a far better income deal here so why else would they come here? And yet any genuine refugee who seeks to arrive here by boat is labeled a criminal, and is excluded.

You work that out....

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #35 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:19pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

There are persecuted people all over the world, mostly at the hands of Muslims. But if it is Muslims being persecuted, we have to give them special treatment....

So, if that is your position, links?

(I am sure there are ~ hence refugees ~ but I want to see what you come up with.)

No. FD is right. The majority of those claiming 'refugee' status to Australia and other 'better' nations. Are basically 'Spill-over' from over-populated nations.
They complain about 'not enough jobs' in their countries and how they have to migrate to the cities to find work. These are the ones that have like 10 kids and along with all the other families out there - their population growth rate out-paces the employment advance by 10 to 3.
Just face it. You, like millions of lefties around the world are too scared to admit that its over-population that is a massive cause of all these ill effects we are having around the world.

Yep

Hence my offering to pay to have some sterilised. It's for their own good. Because more of themselves is all they are able to produce, generation after the next

The majority of our MILLIONS of immigrants in recent years are 'economic refugees' - they get a far better income deal here so why else would they come here? And yet any genuine refugee who seeks to arrive here by boat is labeled a criminal, and is excluded.

You work that out....

They want them for the factories in Sydney and Melbourne Grappler. They work massive hours for crap wages and never whinge. They are a employers dream.

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #36 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:19pm

There have been no legit real refugees since 2000, that have come here by boat. All of them, under ALP, were people who 'paid a lot' to smugglers to come here. The are 'economic' ILLEGAL immigrants.
Maybe. It might soften the blow for Australians if it was our own 'boating industry & culture' to get paid to 'collect' people overseas and bring them here for a 'entry price'?
Hey there all you LEFTIES out there - why don't you go and 'collect' your so-called Refugees and bring them here? You can pretend you're at Dunkirk if it floats your boats. Grin

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #37 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:24pm

Australia is getting rid of 'mass production' manufacturing. We don't need 'cheap unskilled labour' from over-populated nations. 80% of our Business success here is due to 'Quality over quantity': Small, tight, efficient business's that manufacture products at good prices overseas. To do this - workers are highly skilled and multi skilled.

Australia has always been "Give us your rich, educated, skilled, etc"

not the American

"Give us your poor and down trodden, etc"

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #38 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

There are persecuted people all over the world, mostly at the hands of Muslims. But if it is Muslims being persecuted, we have to give them special treatment....

So, if that is your position, links?

(I am sure there are ~ hence refugees ~ but I want to see what you come up with.)

No. FD is right. The majority of those claiming 'refugee' status to Australia and other 'better' nations. Are basically 'Spill-over' from over-populated nations.
They complain about 'not enough jobs' in their countries and how they have to migrate to the cities to find work. These are the ones that have like 10 kids and along with all the other families out there - their population growth rate out-paces the employment advance by 10 to 3.
Just face it. You, like millions of lefties around the world are too scared to admit that its over-population that is a massive cause of all these ill effects we are having around the world.

Yep

Hence my offering to pay to have some sterilised. It's for their own good. Because more of themselves is all they are able to produce, generation after the next

The majority of our MILLIONS of immigrants in recent years are 'economic refugees' - they get a far better income deal here so why else would they come here? And yet any genuine refugee who seeks to arrive here by boat is labeled a criminal, and is excluded.

You work that out....

They want them for the factories in Sydney and Melbourne Grappler. They work massive hours for crap wages and never whinge. They are a employers dream.

What factories? Producing what? They've all been turned into apartments, haven't they?

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #39 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:37pm

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

There have been no legit real refugees since 2000, that have come here by boat. All of them, under ALP, were people who 'paid a lot' to smugglers to come here. The are 'economic' ILLEGAL immigrants.
Maybe. It might soften the blow for Australians if it was our own 'boating industry & culture' to get paid to 'collect' people overseas and bring them here for a 'entry price'?
Hey there all you LEFTIES out there - why don't you go and 'collect' your so-called Refugees and bring them here? You can pretend you're at Dunkirk if it floats your boats. Grin

The majority of boat people refugee applicants have been shown to be refugees..... and none to date allowed entry has become a terrorist or anything like it...

https://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_...

Posted for the umpteenth time...

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_...

Around 80% are proven to be genuine refugees...... a severe contrast with with 'onshore' asylum seekers.... HALF (50% ) of 'onshore' asylum seekers are approved, as opposed to 80% of 'offshore'.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/asylum-seekers-refugees-and-human-ri...

I think many of you could educate yourselves on the facts about asylum seekers - ALL kinds... and not listen to the media and the fear mongers for political advantage ......

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #40 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:38pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 1:47pm:

Australia has room for the 700,000 Rohingya refugees holed up in Bangladesh.

Australian representatives in the UN have been flapping their lips making humanitarian-like bleating noises and tut-tuts but have not opened their hearts, their wallets, and their doors.

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/australias-obligation-to-rohingya/10334312

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...Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people: So why is the federal government prevaricating?
Rawan Arraf
Posted Wed 3 Oct 2018, 4:32pm
Updated Wed 3 Oct 2018, 9:02pm ...

... Australia also needs to play a more active role because of the small but substantial Rohingya refugee community here. There are some 3,000 Rohingya refugees who are in Australia on either permanent or temporary protection visas. Although they weren't present for the orchestrated violence that began in earnest in August 2017, they are survivors of decades-old campaign of persecution against the Rohingya by the Myanmar authorities. Or indeed, many of them have family members who were killed or survived the latest atrocities and are now in Bangladesh.

I've spoken to former clients, all of them having arrived by boat and many of whom are still waiting for their protection interviews and assessments. Prevented from the right to sponsor family members on visas to Australia, they are eager to conclude the process and go and visit their family members in the refugee camps of Cox's Bazar.

We also cannot ignore the Rohingya refugees Australia has detained on offshore detention centres in Nauru and on Manus Island. The FFM stated that the survivors of Myanmar's atrocities deserve a future free of danger and insecurity. Australia is holding us back from even that simple ambition.

Rawan Arraf is a human rights lawyer. She was a solicitor at the Refugee Advice and Casework Service (RACS) and is currently working on a project to develop Australia's domestic prosecutions of international crimes and gross human rights violations. ...

Bugger off with 'obligations'.
Can't forever save Muslims and others from themselves. Take responsibility for your lives, sons of Mohammed. Stop killing each other about Koranic verses, stop getting up everyone else's noses on the basis of Koranic verses. Give it a try.

It is a startlingly new idea which you have never tried before so mebbe it's time to give it a go. Stop being such utter pains in the arse wherever you surface. Think laterally.

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #41 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:41pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

There have been no legit real refugees since 2000, that have come here by boat. All of them, under ALP, were people who 'paid a lot' to smugglers to come here. The are 'economic' ILLEGAL immigrants.
Maybe. It might soften the blow for Australians if it was our own 'boating industry & culture' to get paid to 'collect' people overseas and bring them here for a 'entry price'?
Hey there all you LEFTIES out there - why don't you go and 'collect' your so-called Refugees and bring them here? You can pretend you're at Dunkirk if it floats your boats. Grin

The majority of boat people refugee applicants have been shown to be refugees..... and none to date allowed entry has become a terrorist or anything like it...

https://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_...

Posted for the umpteenth time...

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_...

Around 80% are proven to be genuine refugees...... a severe contrast with immigration per se and with 'onshore' asylum seekers....

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/asylum-seekers-refugees-and-human-ri...

I think many of you could educate yourselves on the facts about asylum seekers - ALL kinds... and not listen to the media and the fear mongers for political advantage ......

Politicians are a minority group that sanctions these false refugees, while 95% of Australians don't agree with them.

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #42 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:45pm

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

There have been no legit real refugees since 2000, that have come here by boat. All of them, under ALP, were people who 'paid a lot' to smugglers to come here. The are 'economic' ILLEGAL immigrants.
Maybe. It might soften the blow for Australians if it was our own 'boating industry & culture' to get paid to 'collect' people overseas and bring them here for a 'entry price'?
Hey there all you LEFTIES out there - why don't you go and 'collect' your so-called Refugees and bring them here? You can pretend you're at Dunkirk if it floats your boats. Grin

The majority of boat people refugee applicants have been shown to be refugees..... and none to date allowed entry has become a terrorist or anything like it...

https://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_...

Posted for the umpteenth time...

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_...

Around 80% are proven to be genuine refugees...... a severe contrast with immigration per se and with 'onshore' asylum seekers....

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/asylum-seekers-refugees-and-human-ri...

I think many of you could educate yourselves on the facts about asylum seekers - ALL kinds... and not listen to the media and the fear mongers for political advantage ......

Politicians are a minority group that sanctions these false refugees, while 95% of Australians don't agree with them.

Yes, they are... they also promote immigration on a false basis of skills etc... I've posted the list of approved occupations, and frankly it is absurd to even suggest that Australia itself cannot supply those people for those occupations.

It's a lie pure and simple while the un-employment and under-employed rate climbs higher and higher.

Look for the reason ... qui bono?

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Reply #43 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:46pm

No, Grappler

Don't take the high road

This country used to produce and export

Now, it no longer produces and it imports

This country employed its population. Life was good

Now, unemployment is the norm

People don't know what's happened. Everything has changed so quickly
No one consulted the existing population
Instead, they were guilt tripped by a succession of lying politicians and governments that drove us into the ground

Take them into your own house. Conduct a personal experiment. Tell your kids to shove over because you're putting extra beds in their rooms to accommodate strangers. Tell your kids the desk and computer and tv are going -- no room
Then tell them to squeeze over at the dining table because they have to make way for half a dozen strangers
Tell them their plates will be half full because these strangers are blowing the family budget
Tell your kids they can only bathe twice a week and to hurry up in the bathroom
They'll have to only flush when absolutely necessary too, because water is expensive and now your household is supplying twice as many bodies
Tell them to shove over on the couch and make room for the strangers
Tell them they can't speak openly any longer because they might offend the strangers
Tell them there won't be much for Christmas or birthdays from now on, because money is tight and you're supporting twice as many on the one wage
and you don't dare think about what will happen if you lose your job …
Then your wife says she's had enough and walks out
So one of the strangers takes over the cooking and your kids don't like the food, but you've warned them to be polite and eat it all up, the little there is
Then the strangers need your car, so you get to catch the bus
Then the strangers tell you to move out of the big bedroom and bunk with your kids because the strangers want that big bedroom
The strangers start taking over. You're no longer master of your own home
Your kids have had a gutfull. One killed himself, the other's on drugs and then you find out your daughter's pregnant to one of the strangers, except that guy's moved out and into someone else's home

go do it. Don't tell me to do it
Let me know how you get on

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Re: Australia has an obligation to the Rohingya people
Reply #44 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:53pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

There are persecuted people all over the world, mostly at the hands of Muslims. But if it is Muslims being persecuted, we have to give them special treatment....

So, if that is your position, links?

(I am sure there are ~ hence refugees ~ but I want to see what you come up with.)

No. FD is right. The majority of those claiming 'refugee' status to Australia and other 'better' nations. Are basically 'Spill-over' from over-populated nations.
They complain about 'not enough jobs' in their countries and how they have to migrate to the cities to find work. These are the ones that have like 10 kids and along with all the other families out there - their population growth rate out-paces the employment advance by 10 to 3.
Just face it. You, like millions of lefties around the world are too scared to admit that its over-population that is a massive cause of all these ill effects we are having around the world.

Yep

Hence my offering to pay to have some sterilised. It's for their own good. Because more of themselves is all they are able to produce, generation after the next

The majority of our MILLIONS of immigrants in recent years are 'economic refugees' - they get a far better income deal here so why else would they come here? And yet any genuine refugee who seeks to arrive here by boat is labeled a criminal, and is excluded.

You work that out....

They want them for the factories in Sydney and Melbourne Grappler. They work massive hours for crap wages and never whinge. They are a employers dream.

What factories? Producing what? They've all been turned into apartments, haven't they?

There's loads of them. Paint factories, food production etc etc etc.

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