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Re: How we have it Wrong.
Reply #15 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 6:17am

Karnal wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:47pm:

What would you rather see, dear? Sick people get access to health care?

Or Hillary fall down the stairs?

its not a matter of what i would rather see.
i would rather see people drink green vege juice then coca cola but i acknowledge "reality" aka "truth"
i would rather poor people understood that you have to contribute before you recieve but i acknowledge 'reality ' aka "truth".

you and i both know that you put up a link on google news to

1 hilary falls down stairs (or donald gets chased by alligator on golf course)

2 hilary announces health care report (or donald releases climate change report)

and 99.99% of people are going for the stimulation over the logic.
for 1 over 2
so now that we can both acknowledge this "reality", aka the "truth", i would like you to give acknowledgement that trump as an "entertainer" is exactly the 'reality" that the american public want.

trump is simply better attuned and has a better awareness of reality then you and the left.

the people want to be entertained
trump entertains.

you dont get what you want.
you dont get what would be good for you

YOU GET WHAT YOU ARE
YOU GET WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME.
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Reply #16 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 6:53am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:29am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 11:39pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:50pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 4:31pm:

it is my opinion that the shaming of young men (and women for that matter) for wanting piles of cash and lots of sex is holding us back.

most young men , in particular have swallowed the social narrative that wanting lots of girls or cash is immoral and something they need to suppress .

but is it?

i hold that we are ALL ambitious in these 2 ,most important feilds.

and the pursuit of them , is the making of the superior man and without the "superior man" we are f**ked.

because, if you DO pursue these 2 things you will quickly discover the most important thing.

"taking" and "being selfish" do not work.

the guys who crush it in business all get there eventually by serving others.
the guys who crush it with women are forced to master their emotions and become givers of good clean emotions and a source of expansive energy or they will fail.

let me say that again.

you will NOT get cash by taking and you will NOT get sex by taking.

these 2 things teach young men , more then anything ever could, to give and contribute because they will try the mainstream narrative of being a creepy little taker and they will fail and it will happen over and over until they learn to serve.

this is our great problem.

our politicians, our mainstream media, our social narrative all say that you take to get ahead.
it has never worked, it will never work and it can never work

until we encourage young men to "go for it" and 'take the lessons", we will continue to be what i call "crabs in a bucket".

we are all in the bucket and we see someone rising up to get out and we grab the guy with our nasty little selfish claws and drag him back down.

only when we start to heap praise on the guys who ARE doing well will we have learnt the lesson.

with the ascendancy of the beta male politician and the combined beta male / feminist in the mainstream media, this will never happen.

until it does, we will continue to live in ever increasing scarcity

A good opening gambit but it misses the mark. What is not encouraged but should be is excellence and virtue. It sounds quaint but it is what matters - recognition for being virtuous and excellent.

With the moral decay we see, virtue and excellence are either dirty words or contested ideas. Striving for money and sex is primitive and therefore wise-spread. Young people need to aim much, much higher.

But don't despair. Republican Rome a hundred years before Caesar and Augustus was even worse. So we may well be on the verge of a golden age....

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Quite so, old boy. That's what they're all saying in Pakistan.

Allah Uakbar, no?

Why don't you suck some other cock in Auburn, Paki-sucky. For Allah. Do it for Allah. Allah likes people like you to suck for him. Go and miam miam. You want to and you will.

Don't mind the old boy, Aquascoot. He's from the prestigious University of Balogney.

Frank is not feeling himself and being less than Frank. Frank is not at his best when not feeling himself.

Maybe one of Aquascoot's vegetable juices and a w@nk would straighten him out.

We'll ask the nurse.

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Reply #17 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:03am

frank is in high vibration energy

he aspires to the european values of wisdom, enlightenment, perfection, reverence, revelation,reason, harmomy, meaningfulness.

these were the values of the renaisance.

i think frank finds it painful that these values have been trashed.

but we must remember that 90 % of the thoughts you have and the emotions you feel are "negative".
"negativity " is the default
failure is the default
garbage is the default.

how many michelangelos and leonardo de vincis do we produce.
not many.

and with out the evoltionary blowtorch, most people will live in a self made hell of negative emotions and then rationalise their way out of it by blaming the government, or the rich successful happy people.

they will enter the realms of the hungry ghosts.
they are not connected to source energy
they think you get ahead by taking
they do not understand the laws of the universe.

maybe they should read 'the kybalion", but its doubtful they could read more then a tweet

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98414	Re: How we have it Wrong. Reply #18 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:25am Frank's dead, dear. He's been cryogenically frozen. They have a program so he can have a rant every now and then. It's marvellous what you can do with computers these days.
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Reply #19 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:47am

Karnal wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:25am:

Frank's dead, dear. He's been cryogenically frozen. They have a program so he can have a rant every now and then. It's marvellous what you can do with computers these days.

Aquascoot admires dead people because dead people make no mistakes and never complain about horse anus gas emissions.

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Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.

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Reply #20 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 11:54am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:47am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:25am:

Frank's dead, dear. He's been cryogenically frozen. They have a program so he can have a rant every now and then. It's marvellous what you can do with computers these days.

Aquascoot admires dead people because dead people make no mistakes and never complain about horse anus gas emissions.

Very true, Laugh. To my knowledge, Frank has never complained about anal horse emissions.

He's more an aficionado for the human kind.

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Reply #21 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:10pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 6:53am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:29am:

Don't mind the old boy, Aquascoot. He's from the prestigious University of Balogney.

Frank is not feeling himself and being less than Frank. Frank is not at his best when not feeling himself.

Maybe one of Aquascoot's vegetable juices and a w@nk would straighten him out.

We'll ask the nurse. [/quote]

There you have it, posters: two lady boys, Paki and Abo, sucking each other in public, with gay abandon.

Unseemly, pwincesses. Desist. No ten rupee for either of you.

Mince along now.

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Reply #22 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:32pm

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Nothing personal, Aquascoot, but I can't shake the suspicion that you've been hooked into one of those motivational-speaker scams

You mention 'success' a lot

Here's my interpretation of success, ok

Right living

Science has shown that if your parents are poor, you'll be poor
Science has also shown that people can expect to be ten percent better off than their parents --- except right now, when people can be expected to be ten or more percent worse off than their parents

So, if your parents are wealthy, or comfortable, the odds favour you being likewise

Success has also been linked to genes by science. They're still working on it, but they believe your path through life is determined by genes

What do we need to survive? We need sustenance and shelter, those are the basics -- food, water, roof over head

anything else is a luxury

So if Tom/Jill are fortunate to have paid employment which provides food, water, shelter, it might also stretch to a tv, computer, vehicle, and more than one set of clothing

It may not be much of a house or vehicle, but with work and some saving up, both can be improved upon so that the house is waterproof, secure and reasonable to the eye. Same with the vehicle

What's next? Maybe a partner and children. Demands sacrifice, steady work and committment

Then what? By now, Tom would have worked out a personal philosophy, he might have planned a bit of a retirement and pondered the world after this

A modest life. Appreciation of natural beauty. Time spent enjoying those around him. A helping hand for his friends and neighbours, maybe a larger contribution to society in the form of volunteering or collecting litter from the street

When Tom dies, he may not have many to mourn him, but that's not the point. How many were glad to see him coming down the road towards them? That's success. That's a life well lived

To live within one's means and be satisfied and grateful for what one has -- that's intelligent and it's a recipe for success

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Reply #23 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:03am:

frank is in high vibration energy

he aspires to the european values of wisdom, enlightenment, perfection, reverence, revelation,reason, harmomy, meaningfulness.

these were the values of the renaisance.

i think frank finds it painful that these values have been trashed.

but we must remember that 90 % of the thoughts you have and the emotions you feel are "negative".
"negativity " is the default
failure is the default
garbage is the default.

how many michelangelos and leonardo de vincis do we produce.
not many.

and with out the evoltionary blowtorch, most people will live in a self made hell of negative emotions and then rationalise their way out of it by blaming the government, or the rich successful happy people.

they will enter the realms of the hungry ghosts.
they are not connected to source energy
they think you get ahead by taking
they do not understand the laws of the universe.

maybe they should read 'the kybalion", but its doubtful they could read more then a tweet

Good but slightly wide of the mark points.

What you call Renaissance values are not 'of a time' even if they were thought of at a particular time. Renaissance and Enlightenment and human dignity, freedom, purpose and creativity are not passing fashions, like transgenderism (exploded right after SSM) and other political correctness shibboleths, weepy emotionalism (Emotional Correctness). These are parochial, of-the-place, of-the-time little political bolshevism and reactions.

Freedom of thought and expression, open enquiry, creativity in dialogue with others - these are not of place or of time but universal values expressed, yes, in a particular time and place. That is the sense in which the Renaissance and the Enlightenment are note merely 'European' concerns but universal expressions of the right direction for individual energies to be expended in and that they were first articulated by Europeans is of secondary importance.

But all the chip-on-shoulders reactionary people take what is secondary and try to make it primary - without offering a better primary value. Identity politics is a dreadful and stupid primary value and it was replaced by thee Renaissance and Enlightenment. But now we see the parochial, tribal identitarians revolting against the universal that transcends and looks beyond the tribal and parochial.
The identity politics crowd resent not universal values - they want to univesalise their own little pissy preoccupations - but that someone else has identified obviously universal values, rendering their little preoccupations patently parochial and myopic. That's what they cannot abide by: denial of importance of their small, peripheral little preoccupation with themselves.

Makes them seething with murderous resentment.

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Reply #26 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 6:35am

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:03am:

frank is in high vibration energy

Good NOT to be like low energy Jeb, what?

it was an amazing performance watching trump "tool" Jeb.
it was a man (trump) who is cocky, confident and assertive demolishing a man (jeb) who was reactive, sad and meek.

i actually think trump could win the next election.

people dont vote based on policies, they vote based on emotions.

and trump knows how to "game" people.
trump actually runs "game" on the crowd.

the best salesmen are all like that.
they can read a persons emotions and they know which buttons to push.
it comes from years and years of interactions with real people "in the field".

you can never get that from sitting in an office like the usual policy maker.
you have to be out , doing the deals, where the rubber meets the road, pressing the flesh.

trump is one of the best marketers and salesmen i have ever seen.

i know a couple of people in america who didnt even like the guy but they said he was always on the morning news and they sort of got hooked on him .
they realised if he lost, they would miss seeing him
he understands the need to entertain and to engage.

who wins survivor?, who prevails on big brother?
its the guy with the MOST personality.

there is really no limit to it.

when trump said "i could shoot someone in time square and my ratings wouldnt go down".i think he is close to being correct.
he has played politics at a new paradigm
at HIS paradigm

and when others (jeb or cbs or msnbc or liz warren or rachel maddow) deal with him, they are always in 'reaction" and "reaction" is always low status.
always.

pure genius.
if you arent studying trump and taking the lessons, you are a fool, you are a chode and you deserve to be destroyed Wink

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Reply #27 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 7:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 6:35am:

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:03am:

frank is in high vibration energy

Good NOT to be like low energy Jeb, what?

it was an amazing performance watching trump "tool" Jeb.
it was a man (trump) who is cocky, confident and assertive demolishing a man (jeb) who was reactive, sad and meek.

i actually think trump could win the next election.

people dont vote based on policies, they vote based on emotions.

and trump knows how to "game" people.
trump actually runs "game" on the crowd.

the best salesmen are all like that.
they can read a persons emotions and they know which buttons to push.
it comes from years and years of interactions with real people "in the field".

you can never get that from sitting in an office like the usual policy maker.
you have to be out , doing the deals, where the rubber meets the road, pressing the flesh.

trump is one of the best marketers and salesmen i have ever seen.

i know a couple of people in america who didnt even like the guy but they said he was always on the morning news and they sort of got hooked on him .
they realised if he lost, they would miss seeing him
he understands the need to entertain and to engage.

who wins survivor?, who prevails on big brother?
its the guy with the MOST personality.

there is really no limit to it.

when trump said "i could shoot someone in time square and my ratings wouldnt go down".i think he is close to being correct.
he has played politics at a new paradigm
at HIS paradigm

and when others (jeb or cbs or msnbc or liz warren or rachel maddow) deal with him, they are always in 'reaction" and "reaction" is always low status.
always.

pure genius.
if you arent studying trump and taking the lessons, you are a fool, you are a chode and you deserve to be destroyed Wink

Just so.
Nobody wants Trump except the people.

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Reply #28 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 7:22pm

Frank wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 6:35am:

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:03am:

frank is in high vibration energy

Good NOT to be like low energy Jeb, what?

it was an amazing performance watching trump "tool" Jeb.
it was a man (trump) who is cocky, confident and assertive demolishing a man (jeb) who was reactive, sad and meek.

i actually think trump could win the next election.

people dont vote based on policies, they vote based on emotions.

and trump knows how to "game" people.
trump actually runs "game" on the crowd.

the best salesmen are all like that.
they can read a persons emotions and they know which buttons to push.
it comes from years and years of interactions with real people "in the field".

you can never get that from sitting in an office like the usual policy maker.
you have to be out , doing the deals, where the rubber meets the road, pressing the flesh.

trump is one of the best marketers and salesmen i have ever seen.

i know a couple of people in america who didnt even like the guy but they said he was always on the morning news and they sort of got hooked on him .
they realised if he lost, they would miss seeing him
he understands the need to entertain and to engage.

who wins survivor?, who prevails on big brother?
its the guy with the MOST personality.

there is really no limit to it.

when trump said "i could shoot someone in time square and my ratings wouldnt go down".i think he is close to being correct.
he has played politics at a new paradigm
at HIS paradigm

and when others (jeb or cbs or msnbc or liz warren or rachel maddow) deal with him, they are always in 'reaction" and "reaction" is always low status.
always.

pure genius.
if you arent studying trump and taking the lessons, you are a fool, you are a chode and you deserve to be destroyed Wink

Just so.
Nobody wants Trump except the people.

Exactly. Mr Trump, man of the people.

You?

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