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Reply #90 - Apr 25^th, 2019 at 6:55pm

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:08pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 12:26pm:

So you have never been the victim of anything?

I am white, male, hetereosexual living in Australia - so no.

What a sly slanderer you are, Moor.

I agree. Fancy being Muslim, white, male and a breeder.

G should come and study at the Faculty of Pakistani Studies - based on a therapeutic model, there's counselling, disability access, cushions you can take out your anger on. It's a a fully accredited safe place.

We'd turn him round in no time, dear.

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Reply #91 - Apr 25^th, 2019 at 6:57pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 11:28am:

You are not a victim FD and neither am I.

Victims are people who are have actually been victimised.

a 3 year old boy who has been shot to death because his father brought him to a peaceful place of worship is a victim. So too is a peaceful family group whose lives are put in danger by an abuser driving dangerously near them to intimidate them. Obviously not the same level of victims, but still victims.

These are the people you insist are supporters of genocide and fascists - the dead 3 year old, the father who tried to save him, and the traumatised family at that picnic. Moses goes a bit further and says they are all mentally disabled due to inbreeding. Yadda simply says they are to a man, woman and child wannabe psychopathic killers.

The point is, all of you deny muslims their basic humanity. You constantly claim, as does Frank, that all you are doing is blaming Islam, not individuals. The reality is, 'blaming Islam' is merely an excuse to dehumanize an entire population of people. There really is no other rational explanation for how you can so blithely insist that all muslims support genocide and clearly insinuate we are all fascists.

The scary thing is, this is exactly the same 'othering' process that enabled Tarrant to walk into those mosques.

Muslims kill other Muslims every day.
Muslims kill non-Muslims every day.

Non-Muslims kill Muslims every 10 years.

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Reply #92 - Apr 25^th, 2019 at 7:33pm

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 11:28am:

You are not a victim FD and neither am I.

Victims are people who are have actually been victimised.

a 3 year old boy who has been shot to death because his father brought him to a peaceful place of worship is a victim. So too is a peaceful family group whose lives are put in danger by an abuser driving dangerously near them to intimidate them. Obviously not the same level of victims, but still victims.

These are the people you insist are supporters of genocide and fascists - the dead 3 year old, the father who tried to save him, and the traumatised family at that picnic. Moses goes a bit further and says they are all mentally disabled due to inbreeding. Yadda simply says they are to a man, woman and child wannabe psychopathic killers.

The point is, all of you deny muslims their basic humanity. You constantly claim, as does Frank, that all you are doing is blaming Islam, not individuals. The reality is, 'blaming Islam' is merely an excuse to dehumanize an entire population of people. There really is no other rational explanation for how you can so blithely insist that all muslims support genocide and clearly insinuate we are all fascists.

The scary thing is, this is exactly the same 'othering' process that enabled Tarrant to walk into those mosques.

Muslims kill other Muslims every day.
Muslims kill non-Muslims every day.

Non-Muslims kill Muslims every 10 years.

CARPETBOMB THEM.

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Reply #93 - Apr 26^th, 2019 at 7:27pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 7:33pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 11:28am:

You are not a victim FD and neither am I.

Victims are people who are have actually been victimised.

a 3 year old boy who has been shot to death because his father brought him to a peaceful place of worship is a victim. So too is a peaceful family group whose lives are put in danger by an abuser driving dangerously near them to intimidate them. Obviously not the same level of victims, but still victims.

These are the people you insist are supporters of genocide and fascists - the dead 3 year old, the father who tried to save him, and the traumatised family at that picnic. Moses goes a bit further and says they are all mentally disabled due to inbreeding. Yadda simply says they are to a man, woman and child wannabe psychopathic killers.

The point is, all of you deny muslims their basic humanity. You constantly claim, as does Frank, that all you are doing is blaming Islam, not individuals. The reality is, 'blaming Islam' is merely an excuse to dehumanize an entire population of people. There really is no other rational explanation for how you can so blithely insist that all muslims support genocide and clearly insinuate we are all fascists.

The scary thing is, this is exactly the same 'othering' process that enabled Tarrant to walk into those mosques.

Muslims kill other Muslims every day.
Muslims kill non-Muslims every day.

Non-Muslims kill Muslims every 10 years.

CARPETBOMB THEM.

Stupid arse bandit.

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Reply #94 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:22am

Frank wrote on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 7:33pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 11:28am:

You are not a victim FD and neither am I.

Victims are people who are have actually been victimised.

a 3 year old boy who has been shot to death because his father brought him to a peaceful place of worship is a victim. So too is a peaceful family group whose lives are put in danger by an abuser driving dangerously near them to intimidate them. Obviously not the same level of victims, but still victims.

These are the people you insist are supporters of genocide and fascists - the dead 3 year old, the father who tried to save him, and the traumatised family at that picnic. Moses goes a bit further and says they are all mentally disabled due to inbreeding. Yadda simply says they are to a man, woman and child wannabe psychopathic killers.

The point is, all of you deny muslims their basic humanity. You constantly claim, as does Frank, that all you are doing is blaming Islam, not individuals. The reality is, 'blaming Islam' is merely an excuse to dehumanize an entire population of people. There really is no other rational explanation for how you can so blithely insist that all muslims support genocide and clearly insinuate we are all fascists.

The scary thing is, this is exactly the same 'othering' process that enabled Tarrant to walk into those mosques.

Muslims kill other Muslims every day.
Muslims kill non-Muslims every day.

Non-Muslims kill Muslims every 10 years.

CARPETBOMB THEM.

Stupid arse bandit.

Changed your mind, have you?

Shurely shome mishtake.

Tendentious, no?

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Reply #95 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 9:59am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

I don't ask people at work about their religious views. Even over beers.

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Reply #96 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

You see the EFFECT of fascist, murderous Islamic jihadists barbarism every day across the world.

BTW, most of them are educated and affluent. So it's no revolt of the dispossessed and marginalised. It is distilled 'pure' Islamic IDEOLOGY that motivates them.

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Reply #97 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

You see the EFFECT of fascist, murderous Islamic jihadists barbarism every day across the world.

BTW, most of them are educated and affluent. So it's no revolt of the dispossessed and marginalised.

Quite so. Jihadist terrorism these days is the lot of educated rich kids.

To me, that's the most enigmatic fact in all this.

And no, It's hardly Muslim piety. The majority are recent converts to jihadism.

What could possibly motivate someone like a doctor to blow themselves up?

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Reply #99 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 6:34pm

moses wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 3:42pm:

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What could possibly motivate someone like a doctor to blow themselves up?

The qur'an and its' crap about how allah loves those who die while killing the kufir, they are to get a guaranteed promise of swathes of aliens with big tits and little boys in the heavenly muslim brothel?

That's not what Islam or Muslims teach, Moses, but sure, they must believe something like that.

How can educated, well-off people believe this? They have professions, families, their whole lives ahead of them. In the case of the Sri Lankan mother, she was happy to take her kids and herself out, along with 3 cops when they came to investigate.

This isn't the act of a rich woman, it's the act of a desperate person who's lost everything. In her case, I guess she had, but she took part in it. Imagine, she killed her own kids for her cause.

Within Islam, such an action sends you to eternity in hell. This is what Islam teaches - God values all human life. Above all, God values justice. All, Islam teaches, face justice.

Now I can only assume that this woman was so brainwashed that she was prepared to give it all away. But an educated, thinking person? How could you possibly ignore everything in your religion about the sanctity of human life and the importance of mercy, charity, peace?

I don't see how this is possible, but it quite clearly is. How could someone be so blinkered as to kill hundreds, themselves and their own children, for nothing?

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Reply #100 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 6:55pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

You see the EFFECT of fascist, murderous Islamic jihadists barbarism every day across the world.

BTW, most of them are educated and affluent. So it's no revolt of the dispossessed and marginalised.

Quite so. Jihadist terrorism these days is the lot of educated rich kids.

To me, that's the most enigmatic fact in all this.

And no, It's hardly Muslim piety. The majority are recent converts to jihadism.

What could possibly motivate someone like a doctor to blow themselves up?

The afterlife is given more allure than the present?

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Reply #101 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 7:50pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

You see the EFFECT of fascist, murderous Islamic jihadists barbarism every day across the world.

BTW, most of them are educated and affluent. So it's no revolt of the dispossessed and marginalised.

Quite so. Jihadist terrorism these days is the lot of educated rich kids.

To me, that's the most enigmatic fact in all this.

And no, It's hardly Muslim piety. The majority are recent converts to jihadism.

What could possibly motivate someone like a doctor to blow themselves up?

The afterlife is given more allure than the present?

How many people think that?

Who suicides for religion?

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Reply #102 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 9:36pm

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 9:59am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

I don't ask people at work about their religious views. Even over beers.

Right, so you freely accept that every single muslim is a reflexive supporter of genocide - even as you concede that you knew muslims who never actually indicated that to you.

Good to know.

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Reply #103 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 10:00pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

You see the EFFECT of fascist, murderous Islamic jihadists barbarism every day across the world.

BTW, most of them are educated and affluent. So it's no revolt of the dispossessed and marginalised.

Quite so. Jihadist terrorism these days is the lot of educated rich kids.

To me, that's the most enigmatic fact in all this.

And no, It's hardly Muslim piety. The majority are recent converts to jihadism.

What could possibly motivate someone like a doctor to blow themselves up?

You left out the pertinent conclusion of my post, perplexed shiteater.

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Reply #104 - Apr 27^th, 2019 at 10:11pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2019 at 8:17am:

Have you ever met one who isn't?

You seem to be implying even those lovely work mates of yours are fascistic genocide supporters. Which if true makes me wonder - did you ask them? Or did you just twist their words around and pretend they said it?

Or, as I suspect is more likely, did you never actually broach the subject with them and are now just happy to bundle them in the 'fascist genocide supporter' basket along with every other muslim you have never heard say anything about genocide? That, by the way, is what I mean by dehumanizing people.

Basically, this seems like a funny rhetorical question to ask from someone who at best would attest to maybe 3 or 4 muslims in the whole world who apparently support it. Effectively you're saying "I have personally heard 3 or 4 muslims out of 1.5 billion supporting genocide - therefore it is inconceivable that there exists a single one of them who doesn't support it.

You see the EFFECT of fascist, murderous Islamic jihadists barbarism every day across the world.

BTW, most of them are educated and affluent. So it's no revolt of the dispossessed and marginalised.

Quite so. Jihadist terrorism these days is the lot of educated rich kids.

To me, that's the most enigmatic fact in all this.

And no, It's hardly Muslim piety. The majority are recent converts to jihadism.

What could possibly motivate someone like a doctor to blow themselves up?

You left out the pertinent conclusion of my post, perplexed shiteater.

Was it really pertinent, dear boy, or merely pert?

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