polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 2:59pm:


But you all, quite literally, support genocide. Or at least, that has been my experience. Hence my suggestion that you give a counter example to prove me wrong. My question is a humble and open acknowledgement of the theoretical possibility that I am wrong. But I would never describe you as a knut. That is completely different. Undiplomatic even. It's good to be polite when discussing genocide with fascists, otherwise they get all shy and won't answer the question.

Everyone is a victim, by the way. But not everyone builds an identity around it.

Frank wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 7:31pm:


I think you misunderstood me Frank.

You calling Brian dickhead, and Karnal Paki bastard - things like that, is being an 'out and proud' abuser.

FD just tries to be more subtle with his abuse.

That's right, G. The old boy's not a hysteric, you are.

After all, as FD argues, you people are a mindless Collective, no individuality whatsoever.

You have to preach genocide, you have to execute gays who do it Mardi Gras-style. And yes, you have to describe Jews as a Mindless Collective, no individuality whatsoever, so unfair.

And so hysterical, as FD says.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 11:28am:



A Nigerian

Muslim

. Don't elide it.


What is it with Muslims and dishonesty? It seems to be in your blood and for converts, you acquire it immediately on conversion.

I think the whole of Islam is a dishonest, resentful sleight of hand.  It improves nothing. It degrades everything it touches with it's bloody jihad.

Karnal wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

Who cares? You remain the same vacuous arse bandit and wanker you have always been. Whether i know who you are referring to or not, you remain the miam miaming trouser sniffing wank fantasist.

Objective truth.

freediver wrote on Apr 19^th, 2019 at 12:26pm:


I am white, male, hetereosexual living in Australia - so no.

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You do nothing but blame individuals FD. Whether its me or Yasmin Abdel-Magied, or (probably your favourite), spineless apologists like Bwian. You do it by taking your negative impression of Islam and applying it as the default negative identity and characteristic of any given individual muslim you come across. Instead of just accepting individuals for who they actually are, including through their demonstrated behaviour. You singularly deny any individual muslim the ability to rationalise a version of Islam that is palatable with civilized society - and viciously attack anyone who claims to do so as a sinister liar. If this seems far fetched to you, ask yourself if you would ever consider any muslim, anywhere in the world, as something other than innately dishonest and generally sinister and hostile to anything 'unislamic'.


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When you literally dismiss an entire population of over a billion, from all corners of the globe, encompassing just about all possible cultures and ethnicities as "reflexive supporters of genocide" and spinelessly apologise for people who label them (for example) all mentally disabled due to inbreeding, there are inevitably going to be victims, as sure as night follows day. Like, for example, the people at the receiving end of a guy with a semi-automatic rifle, who had rationalised pretty much the same de-humanizing process as you are now - that enables him to see men, women and 3 year old children in any old random mosque as all somehow equally guilty.

Think thats unfair? Well you literally think that every one of those 50 victims at Christchurch were fascists and "reflexive supporters of genocide". You deny every single muslim - man, woman and child, any agency (mindless collective anyone?), and thereby deny them of their basic humanity - thus you dehumanize them. Tarrant did that too.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:08pm:



Just because a large number of people believe something doesn't make it right.  Aztecs and Incas ALL believed and practiced human sacrifice. They were ALL wrong.

Islam teaches jihad and conquest and world domination. ALL the Muslims who credit that are wrong.  A billion, two billion - still wrong.

How many people believe something is not validating that belief.

Islam does demand a large degree of mindless obedience, the very idea is submission. Mindless collective is saying that very thing is a pointed way. No room for thinking for yourself (apostasy) and freedom and individuality and dissent in Submission. They kill you for THINKING outside the tenets of Submission.


Islam is a reactionary creed in every aspect of it. It has nothing new in it that is positive. Nothing. Islam has not made the world better anywhere. It is ALWAYS in a fight with whoever is near it.

You are all the sons of Ishmael, 'a wild ass of a man' which explains a lot in very few words. Churchill elaborates:

Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a modifying influence on men’s passions, and protect them from the more violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by vaccination. But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance. It was originally propagated by the sword, and ever since its votaries have been subject, above the people of all other creeds, to this form of madness. In a moment the fruits of patient toil, the prospects of material prosperity, the fear of death itself, are flung aside. The more emotional Pathans are powerless to resist. All rational considerations are forgotten. Seizing their weapons, they become Ghazis—as danger­ous and as sensible as mad dogs: fit only to be treated as such. While the more generous spirits among the tribesmen become convulsed in an ecstasy of religious blood­thirstiness, poorer and more material souls derive additional impulses from the influence of others, the hopes of plunder and the joy of fighting. Thus whole nations are roused to arms. Thus the Turks repel their enemies, the Arabs of the Soudan break the British squares, and the rising on the Indian frontier spreads far and wide. In each case civilisation is confronted with militant Mahommedanism. The forces of progress clash with those of reaction. The religion of blood and war is face to face with that of peace. Luckily the religion of peace is usually the better armed.i