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Mar 31st, 2019 at 5:03pm
 
If anything happened to disrupt our imports of oil and fuel, such as a blockade of shipping through the South China Sea or the Strait of Hormuz, our reserves would be exhausted within three weeks. We would have run out of petrol, diesel and jet fuel.  All road transport and all private cars would grind to a halt. All aircraft, both civil and military, would be unable to take off. The distribution of food and essential services would cease. There would be no deliveries to supermarkets, no ambulances, no fire engines, no police cars. By the end of the fourth week, amidst looting and civil unrest, the rule of law would have crumbled and been replaced by that unforgiving law of nature – the survival of the fittest.

This is not a storyboard for the next apocalyptic but fictional Hollywood blockbuster. It is a serious scenario envisaged by experts who are concerned that Australia’s lack of liquid-fuel security makes her extraordinarily vulnerable and exposed to political unrest or conflict in Opec nations, or to any flare-up of tensions in the key shipping lanes of the world.

Australia is a member of the International Energy Agency (IEA), which was set up in 1974 under the auspices of the OECD in response to the 1973 Opec oil crisis. It acts as a sort of mutual protection society for oil-importing countries that are members of the OECD, and as a member, Australia is under a treaty obligation to maintain liquid fuel stocks equivalent to at least 90 days of net imports.  When we joined the IEA in 1979 we were actually a net exporter of oil and thus exempt from the stock-holding requirement. But since then our oil production first peaked and then declined and soon we were no longer a net exporter.  In fact, we have failed to comply with the IEA minimum of 90 days supply since 2010/11. Indeed the government’s own Australian Petroleum Statistics for December 2018 reveal that at that date we held stocks amounting to just 21 days supply of petrol for road vehicles, 18 days supply of diesel and 20 days supply of aviation fuel. It should also be pointed out that all such stocks are in commercial hands, mainly the major petrol retailing companies, with none being under government control. For Australia there is no such thing as a national strategic reserve.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/03/running-on-empty/

Why??

Why doesn't Australia have petroleum refining capacity? Why not have petroleum reserves? Why have politicians of all colours made Australia so vulnerable to outside forces? We are not in a friendly neighbourhood of the world. Why make ourselves vulnerable?
https://www.smh.com.au/business/interactive-map-shows-how-australia-relies-on-sh...


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Reply #1 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 6:11pm
 
Bad policy for a nation that once produced over 90% of its own petroleum and still does - but it's all shipped Offshore and like everything else now - gas, coal, ores - we are hopelessly tied to international or global economy pricing to suit THEM and not Australia.

Too many politicians bought and paid for and probably so stupid they can;t see the reality of what they're doing, but who KNOW that Downfall will not affect them.

Nation's been in decline for forty years now... I've been watching every step of the way - and now it is totally unrecognisable other than as a dumping ground for the Third World - with the clear aim of reducing Australia to Third World status and neo robber baron society and a new master-servant relationship - and the introduction of a Banana Republic style of government and society, in which the government elect and their mates get all the cream and the peasants will take it or be sent to a gulag or similar or reduced to poverty, criminal status via 'created criminal laws', and powerlessness.

Beggars in the streets..... just some of the scenery ....

Massive upward social movement for the majority came into play after WW I, and then accelerated after WW II - due to the sacrifice of the peasants... all that has been forgotten now in the pursuit of greed is good and the mass infusion of foreign blood with no connection to Australia and its histories and its ways, and their graves trampled on.  It seems only another major conflict in which the nation realises its debt to its people first and foremost is the only way things will get back on an even keel.
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Reply #2 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 7:27pm
 


Frank,

I agree.



But people who are bent on pleasure seeking, don't 'have-a-care', about what may, or may not, happen tomorrow.

They are not provident, in their habit.        [.....there is a good word.]

They are, Australians, of 2019.



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Reply #3 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 7:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 5:03pm:
If anything happened to disrupt our imports of oil and fuel, such as a blockade of shipping through the South China Sea or the Strait of Hormuz, our reserves would be exhausted within three weeks. We would have run out of petrol, diesel and jet fuel.  All road transport and all private cars would grind to a halt. All aircraft, both civil and military, would be unable to take off. The distribution of food and essential services would cease. There would be no deliveries to supermarkets, no ambulances, no fire engines, no police cars. By the end of the fourth week, amidst looting and civil unrest, the rule of law would have crumbled and been replaced by that unforgiving law of nature – the survival of the fittest.

This is not a storyboard for the next apocalyptic but fictional Hollywood blockbuster. It is a serious scenario envisaged by experts who are concerned that Australia’s lack of liquid-fuel security makes her extraordinarily vulnerable and exposed to political unrest or conflict in Opec nations, or to any flare-up of tensions in the key shipping lanes of the world.

Australia is a member of the International Energy Agency (IEA), which was set up in 1974 under the auspices of the OECD in response to the 1973 Opec oil crisis. It acts as a sort of mutual protection society for oil-importing countries that are members of the OECD, and as a member, Australia is under a treaty obligation to maintain liquid fuel stocks equivalent to at least 90 days of net imports.  When we joined the IEA in 1979 we were actually a net exporter of oil and thus exempt from the stock-holding requirement. But since then our oil production first peaked and then declined and soon we were no longer a net exporter.  In fact, we have failed to comply with the IEA minimum of 90 days supply since 2010/11. Indeed the government’s own Australian Petroleum Statistics for December 2018 reveal that at that date we held stocks amounting to just 21 days supply of petrol for road vehicles, 18 days supply of diesel and 20 days supply of aviation fuel. It should also be pointed out that all such stocks are in commercial hands, mainly the major petrol retailing companies, with none being under government control. For Australia there is no such thing as a national strategic reserve.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/03/running-on-empty/

Why??

Why doesn't Australia have petroleum refining capacity? Why not have petroleum reserves? Why have politicians of all colours made Australia so vulnerable to outside forces? We are not in a friendly neighbourhood of the world. Why make ourselves vulnerable?
https://www.smh.com.au/business/interactive-map-shows-how-australia-relies-on-sh...


Talk to the economic realists, Soren.   They decided that it was easier to shut down our oil refineries and have our oil processed overseas in Indonesia and Singapore.  As most of them come from your side of the aisle in politics, I think you're shooting yourself in your own foot...    Roll Eyes


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Reply #4 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 8:22pm
 
We could be self sufficient in fuel if we wanted to be, but the anti-Australia Libs and Labs would never allow that to happen, the rest of the world comes first with them

It'd be nice if this project could become fully Australian owned ...

$20 trillion shale oil find surrounding Coober Pedy 'can fuel Australia'

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/20-trillion-shale-oil-find-surrounding-coobe...

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Reply #5 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 8:35pm
 
The Labor Party have acknowledged the problem and have a policy to address Australia's national fuel reserves....We are still waiting to hear from the Coalition on the issue???

Quote:
Labor to establish national fuel reserve to boost emergency stocks

Bill Shorten proposes a government-owned corporation to safeguard Australia’s fuel supplies

Labor has pledged to establish a national fuel reserve to address Australia’s depleted emergency stocks seven years after the country became a net importer of oil.


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/feb/28/labor-to-establish-nation...

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/coalition-under-fire-...
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Reply #6 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 9:00pm
 
As usual, ALP is on the ball.
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Reply #7 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 9:51pm
 
So we'll only get a national fuel reserve if Labor gets elected, is that right?
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Reply #9 - Apr 1st, 2019 at 4:07am
 
Very simple - the useless union parasites made refining TOO EXPENSIVE to do here in Australia.

And as Australia uses only a small amount of fuel in world standards the refining was simply moved overseas to get away from the vicious brutal union thugs.
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Reply #10 - Apr 1st, 2019 at 9:42am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 9:51pm:
So we'll only get a national fuel reserve if Labor gets elected, is that right?


Looks that way....What is the Coalitions policy???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #11 - Apr 1st, 2019 at 9:49am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 1st, 2019 at 9:42am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 9:51pm:
So we'll only get a national fuel reserve if Labor gets elected, is that right?


Looks that way....What is the Coalitions policy???

Huh Huh Huh



And if Labor doesn't get elected. What then?
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Reply #12 - Apr 1st, 2019 at 10:40am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 1st, 2019 at 9:49am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 1st, 2019 at 9:42am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 9:51pm:
So we'll only get a national fuel reserve if Labor gets elected, is that right?


Looks that way....What is the Coalitions policy???

Huh Huh Huh



And if Labor doesn't get elected. What then?


Who knows....Have the Coalition got a policy on fuel security....One would expect there is one somewhere???

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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 7:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 5:03pm:
If anything happened to disrupt our imports of oil and fuel, such as a blockade of shipping through the South China Sea or the Strait of Hormuz, our reserves would be exhausted within three weeks. We would have run out of petrol, diesel and jet fuel.  All road transport and all private cars would grind to a halt. All aircraft, both civil and military, would be unable to take off. The distribution of food and essential services would cease. There would be no deliveries to supermarkets, no ambulances, no fire engines, no police cars. By the end of the fourth week, amidst looting and civil unrest, the rule of law would have crumbled and been replaced by that unforgiving law of nature – the survival of the fittest.

This is not a storyboard for the next apocalyptic but fictional Hollywood blockbuster. It is a serious scenario envisaged by experts who are concerned that Australia’s lack of liquid-fuel security makes her extraordinarily vulnerable and exposed to political unrest or conflict in Opec nations, or to any flare-up of tensions in the key shipping lanes of the world.

Australia is a member of the International Energy Agency (IEA), which was set up in 1974 under the auspices of the OECD in response to the 1973 Opec oil crisis. It acts as a sort of mutual protection society for oil-importing countries that are members of the OECD, and as a member, Australia is under a treaty obligation to maintain liquid fuel stocks equivalent to at least 90 days of net imports.  When we joined the IEA in 1979 we were actually a net exporter of oil and thus exempt from the stock-holding requirement. But since then our oil production first peaked and then declined and soon we were no longer a net exporter.  In fact, we have failed to comply with the IEA minimum of 90 days supply since 2010/11. Indeed the government’s own Australian Petroleum Statistics for December 2018 reveal that at that date we held stocks amounting to just 21 days supply of petrol for road vehicles, 18 days supply of diesel and 20 days supply of aviation fuel. It should also be pointed out that all such stocks are in commercial hands, mainly the major petrol retailing companies, with none being under government control. For Australia there is no such thing as a national strategic reserve.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/03/running-on-empty/

Why??

Why doesn't Australia have petroleum refining capacity? Why not have petroleum reserves? Why have politicians of all colours made Australia so vulnerable to outside forces? We are not in a friendly neighbourhood of the world. Why make ourselves vulnerable?
https://www.smh.com.au/business/interactive-map-shows-how-australia-relies-on-sh...


Talk to the economic realists, Soren.   They decided that it was easier to shut down our oil refineries and have our oil processed overseas in Indonesia and Singapore.  As most of them come from your side of the aisle in politics, I think you're shooting yourself in your own foot...    Roll Eyes



F off, parrot. Read the article, get the point,  if you are mentally able ( a huge if),  then talk to the point.
Trying to sledge me will just reinforce what a piss-soaked, incomprehending, demented old aunty you are,  Bwian Woss.
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Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2019 at 8:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 7:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 5:03pm:
If anything happened to disrupt our imports of oil and fuel, such as a blockade of shipping through the South China Sea or the Strait of Hormuz, our reserves would be exhausted within three weeks. We would have run out of petrol, diesel and jet fuel.  All road transport and all private cars would grind to a halt. All aircraft, both civil and military, would be unable to take off. The distribution of food and essential services would cease. There would be no deliveries to supermarkets, no ambulances, no fire engines, no police cars. By the end of the fourth week, amidst looting and civil unrest, the rule of law would have crumbled and been replaced by that unforgiving law of nature – the survival of the fittest.

This is not a storyboard for the next apocalyptic but fictional Hollywood blockbuster. It is a serious scenario envisaged by experts who are concerned that Australia’s lack of liquid-fuel security makes her extraordinarily vulnerable and exposed to political unrest or conflict in Opec nations, or to any flare-up of tensions in the key shipping lanes of the world.

Australia is a member of the International Energy Agency (IEA), which was set up in 1974 under the auspices of the OECD in response to the 1973 Opec oil crisis. It acts as a sort of mutual protection society for oil-importing countries that are members of the OECD, and as a member, Australia is under a treaty obligation to maintain liquid fuel stocks equivalent to at least 90 days of net imports.  When we joined the IEA in 1979 we were actually a net exporter of oil and thus exempt from the stock-holding requirement. But since then our oil production first peaked and then declined and soon we were no longer a net exporter.  In fact, we have failed to comply with the IEA minimum of 90 days supply since 2010/11. Indeed the government’s own Australian Petroleum Statistics for December 2018 reveal that at that date we held stocks amounting to just 21 days supply of petrol for road vehicles, 18 days supply of diesel and 20 days supply of aviation fuel. It should also be pointed out that all such stocks are in commercial hands, mainly the major petrol retailing companies, with none being under government control. For Australia there is no such thing as a national strategic reserve.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/03/running-on-empty/

Why??

Why doesn't Australia have petroleum refining capacity? Why not have petroleum reserves? Why have politicians of all colours made Australia so vulnerable to outside forces? We are not in a friendly neighbourhood of the world. Why make ourselves vulnerable?
https://www.smh.com.au/business/interactive-map-shows-how-australia-relies-on-sh...


Talk to the economic realists, Soren.   They decided that it was easier to shut down our oil refineries and have our oil processed overseas in Indonesia and Singapore.  As most of them come from your side of the aisle in politics, I think you're shooting yourself in your own foot...    Roll Eyes



F off, parrot. Read the article, get the point,  if you are mentally able ( a huge if),  then talk to the point.
Trying to sledge me will just reinforce what a piss-soaked, incomprehending, demented old aunty you are,  Bwian Woss.



Poor, poor, Soren.  I only gave you a very minor sledge by pointing out that it was really the Tories who shutdown most of the oil refineries, not the ALP.  It happened in the late 1990s - early 2000s IIRC, when Little Johnny was in power.   If you think that is worth complaining about, then I pity you, Soren, I really do.   He represented your views, didn't he or was he too left wing even for you?   Roll Eyes

Run along, little laddie, run along.  You're needed back in the little kiddies' playground where they are mixing up a fresh batch of mud for you roll in.  Off you go, while the adults have a serious conversation.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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