Here's the thing ... you, Setanta, the rest of you .... the basic premise of your argument is wrong. You simply cannot be reasoned with because your foundation is polar extremes from where it needs to be to achieve the most beneficial outcome for the entire world, moving forward.

To you guys, it's all about sides. Us and them. Your targets rotate a little but it's always a dichotomy of warring sides.

The whole premise of everything you've said since Christchurch is that it happened to "them". The braver of you go on to say "for a change". Overlooking utterly that these were residents of New Zealand who have and had far more in common with you and i than some terrorist jihadi.

But you all lump them in with the terrorist jihadi because you draw a blank with their religion. As though that is the sum total of person.

I instead, when i think of Christchurch think of people, ostensibly like me, who were gunned down in a part of the world so unaccustomed to such things, people probably didn't joke about it being an outside prospect. It's also a country that shares very close ties with our country.

Most importantly, the killer was from here.

Now, we get back to sides. You have, by virtue of assessing Christchurch as an attack on "them" and even arguing positions of the murderer, assigned yourself a 'side' ... if sides are to be assigned. And it's you assigning them.

Feeling a bit sheepish now?

Whereas i, exactly as i have with every instance of loss of life owing to violence i have ever heard about in my living memory, taken the side of the victims.

They didn't cut off anyone's head. Or perform FGM. Or throw a gay off a building. They were, more than likely, law abiding Kiwis assembled to practice their faith that we can extrapolate from the overwhelming majority of those who share that faith, they intended to embody peacefully.

And these people are our brothers and sisters. They are not responsible for anything done in the contorted name of their religion.

For if you hold them to account for the sins of people they share a commonality with, then you must accept some responsibility for Tarrant.

You simply can't have it both ways.

Remember

According to world stats

1 in 4 are radicals

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:24pm:


Nor have you, sweetheart - all you've done is attack the messenger... not once have you actually offered anything but vitriol and verbiage.

I slice and dice you every time you arrive here.... thanks for coming - not my failure that you are unable to see ...

Still waiting for you to prove that I 'support' white supremacism...... or any supremacism for that matter, when all I have done is condemn ANY supremacism and violence to achieve an end - (BTW - you perpetrate violence against reason and against my good name by even suggesting that I support anything extreme without your providing any proof)...

Where is your proof that I've supported white supremacism?

Can't do it, eh? I'm part Irish, Scottish, German Jew and a Chinese or Indian great-grandmother  - something sallow - never beat on a Black or a Gay or a Musso or anyone else in my life... not in any way.

You??  You just love attacking White Men.... the mainstay of the civilisation that protects and supports you...

I can train an idiot.........