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Reply #60 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:42am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:34am:

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 10:47am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 28^th, 2019 at 11:53pm:

FD wrote on Mar 28^th, 2019 at 11:16pm:

You didn't want to see anyone shot, you wanted to bury a thread on the Christchurch shooting.

Nothing to do with guns, Setanta. You did it because the victims were Muslims, you know that.

Why TF would I want to bury a thread K? The only thing I said was I saw this coming. Why? Because Islam has been killing people left, right and all ways. It was inevitable that there was return fire. I'm not saying it was right or it was good or anything beyond it was inevitable. Now we will see more from both sides. That does not make me a supporter of either side although you seem to be a supporter of one side. Allah hu Akbar! Eh? Perhaps you should be on the Govt's watch list.

That's the meat of the discussion - convenient though it may be for the screeching sheila types to leap on such a comment and make it hatred of Muslims etc - that is clearly not the case.

Side note:- This kind of insanity got out of control with the early feminists - disagree with any of their demands and you were a woman hater and a basher. Then your government sided with them - why? Nobody really knows apart from utter stupidity. Now look at them in the majority in universities and such- if that's the way they carry on - what person in his or her right mind would want them to majority rule your nation with that kind of infantile mentality?

Extend that to infantile Muslims Islamists and their radicals - what person in his/her right mind would want them to majority rule your nation? Cool

Same with the 'radical' Blacks etc.... Gays.. you name it.... if they act that way over everything they want, who would want them running anything?

The fact of the matter is, you judge feminists, Muslims, Aboriginals and anyone else you can't relate to by the worst behaved representatives of their demographic. You ascribe that worst behaviour to your incessantly repreated value judgements of those groups.

You don't do that with white supremacy though. That you go in to bat for.

Screams volumes.

a) feminists are not mainstream women.... they are radicals and ratbags....

b) the Muslims and Aboriginals you speak of are those who claim to be radicals and ratbags as well ...

c) the gays of whom you speak are the radical ratbags as well..

I am always careful to differentiate between the real ones and the ratbags... you just can't see it.

What part of 'criminal and terrorist' blah-blahs should be deported/imprisoned do you NOT understand?

What part of 'lunatic demanding, lying' feminists/Gays etc with serious issues should be totally ignored rather than permitted to become mainstream on the back of faulty non-science' do you NOT understand?

I can train an idiot to the limits of his abilities - I cannot train a fool.....

FYI -I judge people as they come to me - not by any other standard - and I heartily condemn criminals and lunatics with an agenda who are stealing control over discussion using threats and violence and intimidation and stand-over and refuse to accept them until they learn to behave like civilised human beings.

I have NEVER 'gone in to bat' for any supremacy - if you learn to read properly you will see clearly that I condemn ALL such movements... you simply do not wish to see that there are other supremacist ideologies going the rounds, and 'white supremacy' is very minor.

Indeed, it is you and greg and that kind who are a big part of the problem, since you flatly refuse to see anything wrong with anyone but white men, and seek by every means to control and demolish any discussion on a level playing field by attacking the speaker.

Were you as clever as you think you are, you would have realised that you just neatly evidenced my point and refrained from posting that.

I'll just recap: every group you can't relate to speaking out = radical / other

White supremacy = defensible / like

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #61 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:48am

BTW- MY theatre is currently playing Indigenous plays - two out of the four on offer... and I'm working on improving street sealing and clean-up for the Aboriginals in the town I'm moving to.

What have YOU done for the Blacks lately? Other than do your damnedest to alienate people who are genuinely supportive of their problems?

Some of you really need to get out more...

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #62 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:49am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:30am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:26am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:03am:

we are all guilty of pigeonholing people on here.

So true - pigeon holing is a form of violence that runs a close second to direct violence... it's an abuse of reason and of fair play and thus of the human spirit....

I've had the lefties on here pigeonholing about me living in Western Sydney. I've been called a bogan plenty of times.

Yeah, well, you do insist on drinking VB.

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #63 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am

Here's proof positive of your attack on the messenger:-

"The fact of the matter is, you judge feminists, Muslims, Aboriginals and anyone else you can't relate to by the worst behaved representatives of their demographic. You ascribe that worst behaviour to your incessantly repreated value judgements of those groups.

You don't do that with white supremacy though. That you go in to bat for."

All of it utter and emotion-driven nonsense, and an absolute insult to any reasonable person. Not my fault you simply can't read, let alone interpret what is written.

SHOW me where I've supported white supremacy or advocated for anything but refusal to give in to absurd demands such as change Australia Day or where I've advocated deporting or imprisoning any but the criminal and the terrorist .......right now - or hold your peace.

You must be confusing me with someone else.... or you are illiterate...

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #64 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

BTW- MY theatre is currently playing Indigenous plays - two out of the four on offer... and I'm working on improving street sealing and clean-up for the Aboriginals in the town I'm moving to.

What have YOU done for the Blacks lately? Other than do your damnedest to alienate people who are genuinely supportive of their problems?

Some of you really need to get out more...

Well, i don't call the 'the Blacks' for a start.

I certainly don't deride them on social media either, by constantly referring to them as Abos and Niqqers and other such profoundly offensive nomenclature.

And i don't try to score brownie points by making a song and dance out of my "charity" towards them, as though that actually indicates anything other than condescension,.

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Reply #65 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:52am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Here's proof positive of your attack on the messenger:-

"The fact of the matter is, you judge feminists, Muslims, Aboriginals and anyone else you can't relate to by the worst behaved representatives of their demographic. You ascribe that worst behaviour to your incessantly repreated value judgements of those groups.

You don't do that with white supremacy though. That you go in to bat for."

All of it utter and emotion-driven nonsense, and an absolute insult to any reasonable person. Not my fault you simply can't read, let alone interpret what is written.

SHOW me where I've supported white supremacy.......right now - or hold your peace.

You've been doing it ever since Christchurch.

In fact, you do it all the time. You just say you were joking when you're called on it.

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #66 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:55am

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

BTW- MY theatre is currently playing Indigenous plays - two out of the four on offer... and I'm working on improving street sealing and clean-up for the Aboriginals in the town I'm moving to.

What have YOU done for the Blacks lately? Other than do your damnedest to alienate people who are genuinely supportive of their problems?

Some of you really need to get out more...

Well, i don't call the 'the Blacks' for a start.

I certainly don't deride them on social media either, by constantly referring to them as Abos and Niqqers and other such profoundly offensive nomenclature.

And i don't try to score brownie points by making a song and dance out of my "charity" towards them, as though that actually indicates anything other than condescension,.

Call them what you will - a rose by any other name ... not my problem.

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #67 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:57am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:55am:

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

BTW- MY theatre is currently playing Indigenous plays - two out of the four on offer... and I'm working on improving street sealing and clean-up for the Aboriginals in the town I'm moving to.

What have YOU done for the Blacks lately? Other than do your damnedest to alienate people who are genuinely supportive of their problems?

Some of you really need to get out more...

Well, i don't call the 'the Blacks' for a start.

I certainly don't deride them on social media either, by constantly referring to them as Abos and Niqqers and other such profoundly offensive nomenclature.

And i don't try to score brownie points by making a song and dance out of my "charity" towards them, as though that actually indicates anything other than condescension,.

Call them what you will - a rose by any other name ... not my problem.

I choose to respect them when they tell me what they find offensive.

You prefer to rank your right to be offensive over their wishes.

What does that say about you and your respect for them?

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #68 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:04pm

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:52am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Here's proof positive of your attack on the messenger:-

"The fact of the matter is, you judge feminists, Muslims, Aboriginals and anyone else you can't relate to by the worst behaved representatives of their demographic. You ascribe that worst behaviour to your incessantly repreated value judgements of those groups.

You don't do that with white supremacy though. That you go in to bat for."

All of it utter and emotion-driven nonsense, and an absolute insult to any reasonable person. Not my fault you simply can't read, let alone interpret what is written.

SHOW me where I've supported white supremacy.......right now - or hold your peace.

You've been doing it ever since Christchurch.

In fact, you do it all the time. You just say you were joking when you're called on it.

I said 'show me' - not just rant. Never once have I supported or advocated any supremacist movement, and have simply sought to discuss the issues in a real light and not through bigotry-tinted lenses as many do.

As for Christchurch - the most I've said is that No-Name NZ (telling enough in itself my use of that term) was not a 'white supremacist' - he is, by his own lights, an eco-warrior who seeks to generate control over his own nation, same as Arabs etc do in theirs.

As many times - why are OTHER supremacists not labeled supremacists? Only a white sin, is it?

Is the Taliban supremacist? Is the Iranian regime supremacist? Are the Chinese supremacist? the Burmese who kill Muslims? Was Sad Sam supremacist when he killed many thousands? What about the Japanese with their limits on immigration etc?

None so blind as they who refuse to see anything but their pet hate.

Jeez - even al Jazeera - in an article you have yet to even attempt to discuss and which I posted - first larded on all the Muslim on Muslim killings in the thousands, the killings and oppression in African and Asian nations - and then went on to say that the current situation was primarily the fault of the West for 'oppressing' Muslims.... the same Muslims the West took in and gave shelter, protection and a new life with vast opportunities, as opposed to a sudden death at the hands of a mullah or some passing zealot with some funny idea of morality.

Put simply - your kind are incapable of discussing anything unless it is forced into the very narrow parameters you wish to impose - and I will not play that game.

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #69 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:08pm

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:57am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:55am:

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

BTW- MY theatre is currently playing Indigenous plays - two out of the four on offer... and I'm working on improving street sealing and clean-up for the Aboriginals in the town I'm moving to.

What have YOU done for the Blacks lately? Other than do your damnedest to alienate people who are genuinely supportive of their problems?

Some of you really need to get out more...

Well, i don't call the 'the Blacks' for a start.

I certainly don't deride them on social media either, by constantly referring to them as Abos and Niqqers and other such profoundly offensive nomenclature.

And i don't try to score brownie points by making a song and dance out of my "charity" towards them, as though that actually indicates anything other than condescension,.

Call them what you will - a rose by any other name ... not my problem.

I choose to respect them when they tell me what they find offensive.

You prefer to rank your right to be offensive over their wishes.

What does that say about you and your respect for them?

Define 'respect'.....

A bit rich coming from someone who says that anyone refusing to be brow-beaten into accepting some mythical need to change Australia Day is a 'racist'...

So in your eyes anything anyone finds offensive should instantly lead to everyone else altering their thoughts and their behaviour and their way of life? Do you even begin to see how utterly absurd that is?

You're just trying to get out of a free and open discussion.

When people like you etc attack me for holding a different view and insult me, I then will insult you by using terms like Kaffirs, Niqqers, Abos etc.... you draw down the thunder and you'll get it. You want to use attack as your means of discussion - be prepared for a flat refusal and a radicalised response from those you attack.

Advice for today:-

Never engage in a furball with a faster moving, faster turning, more heavily armed, more agile aircraft in the hands of an experienced and capable pilot....

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #70 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:08pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:04pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:52am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Here's proof positive of your attack on the messenger:-

"The fact of the matter is, you judge feminists, Muslims, Aboriginals and anyone else you can't relate to by the worst behaved representatives of their demographic. You ascribe that worst behaviour to your incessantly repreated value judgements of those groups.

You don't do that with white supremacy though. That you go in to bat for."

All of it utter and emotion-driven nonsense, and an absolute insult to any reasonable person. Not my fault you simply can't read, let alone interpret what is written.

SHOW me where I've supported white supremacy.......right now - or hold your peace.

You've been doing it ever since Christchurch.

In fact, you do it all the time. You just say you were joking when you're called on it.

I said 'show me' - not just rant. Never once have I supported or advocated any supremacist movement, and have simply sought to discuss the issues in a real light and not through bigotry-tinted lenses as many do.

As for Christchurch - the most I've said is that No-Name NZ (telling enough in itself my use of that term) was not a 'white supremacist' - he is, by his own lights, an eco-warrior who seeks to generate control over his own nation, same as Arabs etc do in theirs.

As many times - why are OTHER supremacists not labeled supremacists? Only a white sin, is it?

Is the Taliban supremacist? Is the Iranian regime supremacist? Are the Chinese supremacist? the Burmese who kill Muslims? Was Sad Sam supremacist when he killed many thousands? What about the Japanese with their limits on immigration etc?

None so blind as they who refuse to see anything but their pet hate.

Jeez - even al Jazeera - in an article you have yet to even attempt to discuss and which I posted - first larded on all the Muslim on Muslim killings in the thousands, the killings and oppression in African and Asian nations - and then went on to say that the current situation was primarily the fault of the West for 'oppressing' Muslims.... the same Muslims the West took in and gave shelter, protection and a new life with vast opportunities, as opposed to a sudden death at the hands of a mullah or some passing zealot with some funny idea of morality.

Put simply - your kind are incapable of discussing anything unless it is forced into the very narrow parameters you wish to impose - and I will not play that game.

You don't "discuss" anything. You repeat your biased observations ad infinitum.

And what you and others on here have observed from Christchurch is that the Muslims had it coming and that Tarrant guy sure had some points.

I repeat, you show more empathy with such ideology than you do the others you deride on here many times daily.

White supremacy = a few good points

Every other group = noisy radicals

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Re: Business as usual for the cult of death
Reply #71 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:12pm

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:04pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:52am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Here's proof positive of your attack on the messenger:-

"The fact of the matter is, you judge feminists, Muslims, Aboriginals and anyone else you can't relate to by the worst behaved representatives of their demographic. You ascribe that worst behaviour to your incessantly repreated value judgements of those groups.

You don't do that with white supremacy though. That you go in to bat for."

All of it utter and emotion-driven nonsense, and an absolute insult to any reasonable person. Not my fault you simply can't read, let alone interpret what is written.

SHOW me where I've supported white supremacy.......right now - or hold your peace.

You've been doing it ever since Christchurch.

In fact, you do it all the time. You just say you were joking when you're called on it.

I said 'show me' - not just rant. Never once have I supported or advocated any supremacist movement, and have simply sought to discuss the issues in a real light and not through bigotry-tinted lenses as many do.

As for Christchurch - the most I've said is that No-Name NZ (telling enough in itself my use of that term) was not a 'white supremacist' - he is, by his own lights, an eco-warrior who seeks to generate control over his own nation, same as Arabs etc do in theirs.

As many times - why are OTHER supremacists not labeled supremacists? Only a white sin, is it?

Is the Taliban supremacist? Is the Iranian regime supremacist? Are the Chinese supremacist? the Burmese who kill Muslims? Was Sad Sam supremacist when he killed many thousands? What about the Japanese with their limits on immigration etc?

None so blind as they who refuse to see anything but their pet hate.

Jeez - even al Jazeera - in an article you have yet to even attempt to discuss and which I posted - first larded on all the Muslim on Muslim killings in the thousands, the killings and oppression in African and Asian nations - and then went on to say that the current situation was primarily the fault of the West for 'oppressing' Muslims.... the same Muslims the West took in and gave shelter, protection and a new life with vast opportunities, as opposed to a sudden death at the hands of a mullah or some passing zealot with some funny idea of morality.

Put simply - your kind are incapable of discussing anything unless it is forced into the very narrow parameters you wish to impose - and I will not play that game.

You don't "discuss" anything. You repeat your biased observations ad infinitum.

And what you and others on here have observed from Christchurch is that the Muslims had it coming and that Tarrant guy sure had some points.

I repeat, you show more empathy with such ideology than you do the others you deride on here many times daily.

White supremacy = a few good points

Every other group = noisy radicals

You force repeat since you refuse to discuss.. like just now - don't blame me for having to repeat simple realities over and over to you until you get it - where is the answer to my question - 'show me!

You are repeating yourself and adding no reality to your discussion...

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Reply #73 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:22pm

And why do you think i have not tried to discuss your much lauded article, Grap? Because you present it and ensconce it in all of your bigotry and short-sightedness, holding it up as a prop in the great war on white civilisation you see unfolding before you and moan about daily?

It's ridiculous. you can't reason with someone who thinks like that, God knows i've tried over the years.

I've given up almost entirely.

And the fact that this is the engine driving you in the wake of Christchurch just shows a complete deficiency in tact and empathy. As i said, justifications for white supremacy and the victimhood you clutch to you like a shield.

I reserve the right to chip in when i feel so inclined.

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Reply #74 - Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:24pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

This, Grasshopers, is what happens when you seek to discuss issues with the ideologically driven emotionals.... over and over the same nonsense for no result.

I've got things to do..... be back to slice you finely later...

You've not tried to discuss anything at all. You've just tried to evidence you're not a supremacist while behaving very much like one.

And i've yet to see you "slice" anybody at all. Ever.

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