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Brendon Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 396	Government money for private schools. Socialism? Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:33pm I dunno. It sounds like socialism to me. Redistribution of wealth. Putting money in the pockets of a certain section of the community. I belong to a private golf club. I might ring my local member and see if I can get in on the act. Maybe the golf lessons?
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Reply #1 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:43pm

Of course it does. People pay taxes. Taxes pay for education. Some people want to send their kids to private schools.

So what you want is a system where everybody pays taxes, which go to education, funded mainly by the states, but want to bar these people who have paid these taxes to a share of those education funds for their kids.

And here I was thinking everybody had a right to "free education". But obviously you disagree. Only kids who don't go to private schools should get a "free education". Grin

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26592 Australia	Re: Government money for private schools. Socialism? Reply #2 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:45pm If you choose to send your kids to a private school you should pay for it. Taxes are for state schools. Spot
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Reply #3 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:47pm

lee wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:43pm:

So what you want is a system where everybody pays taxes, which go to education, funded mainly by the states, but want to bar these people who have paid these taxes to a share of those education funds for their kids.

what a load of poppy cock

Everyone's child has access to the public education system. If you choose to send your child to some prissy private school, you pay for it.

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Reply #4 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:50pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:45pm:

If you choose to send your kids to a private school you should pay for it.

You don't think they do? Hilarious.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:45pm:

Taxes are for state schools.

Then why did the last Labor Government NOT stop these "rorts"? Perhaps because they were private schoolkids too?

I see Bill went to St Mary's Catholic Primary School that doesn't sound like a state school to me.

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Reply #5 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 7:50pm

lee wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:50pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:45pm:

If you choose to send your kids to a private school you should pay for it.

You don't think they do? Hilarious.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:45pm:

Taxes are for state schools.

Then why did the last Labor Government NOT stop these "rorts"? Perhaps because they were private schoolkids too?

I see Bill went to St Mary's Catholic Primary School that doesn't sound like a state school to me.

Yeah, you are right. And, go on....

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21363 Gender:	Re: Government money for private schools. Socialism? Reply #6 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 7:53pm Brendon wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 7:50pm: Yeah, you are right. And, go on.... No need to. You already said I was right.
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Reply #7 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm

lee wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 7:53pm:

Brendon wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 7:50pm:

Yeah, you are right. And, go on....

No need to. You already said I was right. Wink

OK!

So we need someone to stand up and call this rampant socialism for what it is and stamp out funding for private schools, like you say. I'm glad you are with me on this. Damn you ALP, and Liberal Party.

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Reply #8 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:07pm

The issue is. if every child went to a State School the system coud not cope, Every student has a right for schooling, if the parents decide they want more then the Public schooling then they should pay for it,

But that amount, that has been allocated to Public Schools, should be and is, is passed onto the Private School. The excess is on the Parent"s Dime.

Which it is.

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Reply #9 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:08pm

Brendon wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

So we need someone to stand up and call this rampant socialism for what it is and stamp out funding for private schools, like you say.

Nope. That's not what I said.

I said that that the taxpayers have the right to get "free education" at private schools as they ave paid the taxes. They pay more on top. Thats their call.

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Reply #10 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:36pm

lee wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:08pm:

Brendon wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

So we need someone to stand up and call this rampant socialism for what it is and stamp out funding for private schools, like you say.

Nope. That's not what I said.

I said that that the taxpayers have the right to get "free education" at private schools as they ave paid the taxes. They pay more on top. Thats their call.

So, if there is a water fountain at the local park, and I decide I want to drink at a different water fountain, I should build one myself and then charge the government. Because like, I have the same right to drink water just like everyone else, dammit! Is that what you mean?

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Reply #11 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:57pm

Not all private schools are wealthy and most are actually fairly modest.

Some private schools get more than they deserve but most get a fraction per child than a public school gets.

Parents fees pay for the bling, not govt money.

40% of children are in private schools so if you want to cut off all funding and send them to public schools, good luck with that.

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Reply #12 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 9:12pm

Gordon wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

Not all private schools are wealthy and most are actually fairly modest.

Some private schools get more than they deserve but most get a fraction per child than a public school gets.

Parents fees pay for the bling, not govt money.

40% of children are in private schools so if you want to cut off all funding and send them to public schools, good luck with that.

I have no prob with private schools except government funding. I have no prob with parents taking a partial tax cut if they have children in private schools. Not an entire cut, because funding free education should be seen as a civic duty.

Lets see if 40% of the student population are at private schools after we take away their socialist funding. Damn their commie hides.

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Reply #13 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 9:23pm

Brendon wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:33pm:

I dunno. It sounds like socialism to me. Redistribution of wealth. Putting money in the pockets of a certain section of the community.

I belong to a private golf club. I might ring my local member and see if I can get in on the act. Maybe the golf lessons?

I know. I know.

Makes you wonder how 'American' we can get these days, no?
With Capitosonora heckling us Australians for being 'British' because we still have the Union Jack (represents 'Politics' on our Flag) on our Flag and how bad and inferior it is to have it there (so, we should have a War of Independence with them ? Roll Eyes

).
But if being Politically 'supervised' by the British (system) is so bad like being in the Frying Pan, then becoming like the USA (President as a Head of State and all that rubbish Roll Eyes

) would be like jumping into the Fire.

Take a look at Uluru, then take a look at the Southern Cross and then watch the movie Excalibur and even read ever 'mythology' around the world and you will soon see how Australia's future (even beyond Politics) will be.

Americans like Capitosonora often call us 'British' - because they know it makes people (like Hammer recently) insecure of their cultural identity and eventually start doing the 'australian crawl' to the USA.

I can't help it if the USA jilted the British and ran their own show which ended up being run by 'others' (...Media? Huh

) that lead their country up the creek without a paddle into a future that could end up being a 'Dead End' for us all.

Australia's future of empowerment (culturally) isn't even Political, so I don't know why Yanks like Capitosonora (and others) think we need a democratically elected head of state. Australia's future (because the world needs it) is ART.
Politics here is the domain for the poor Family Man/Woman and the proper raising of kids... which is currently lacking and shows in the Educational System for starters.

Govenor-General serves the UK.
Prime Ministers serve the USA.
The UK serves the USA anyway...

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Reply #14 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 9:24pm

Brendon wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:33pm:

I dunno. It sounds like socialism to me. Redistribution of wealth. Putting money in the pockets of a certain section of the community.

I belong to a private golf club. I might ring my local member and see if I can get in on the act. Maybe the golf lessons?

Perhaps you could play on one of the free public golf courses that every Australian has a fundamental right to access.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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