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Mar 5th, 2019 at 8:22am
 
[urlhttps://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates][/url]

In response to the community frustrations that have been aired this morning as a result of the significant bushfire damage seen across south-eastern Victoria, Emergency Management Commissioner Andrew Crisp said his priority at the moment is keeping people safe.

"I quite well understand some of the community sentiment but the important thing for us, we’ve still got the potential threat to life, threat to properties and we will stay focused around that," he told Today.

"I do understand some of the sentiment, I do know when people are talking about - in particular the Bunyip fire - I know there were planned burns there in 2016 and 2017.


However, planned burns can do some work in terms of slowing down the spread and the severity, but it’s not the panacea, it’s not the cure all and a fire such as this one well and truly went through and went over those planned burns."

Commissioner Crisp also said that recommendations from a Royal Commission after the Black Saturday fires - the worst in the state's history - were not ignored.

"There’s been very much a shift in relation to planned burns being based on actual hectares, which is a fairly blunt measure. The move now is to a risk-based approach," he said.

"I’ve been in this job for about six months, I’ve been out, I’ve listened to Parks people, I’ve seen what they’ve been doing in relation to the land and fire management and I’ve been very, very impressed with what they’re doing.

"We want to do whatever we can to keep communities safe but at the same time, the window for conducting planned burns is very, very limited when you think about temperatures, you think about fuel load.

"What we’ve seen over the state in the last couple years - particularly in Gippsland - as we’ve seen there’s been record low rainfall and that’s why we’ve got what we’ve got in relation to these fires on the landscapes with lightning strikes very quickly starting fires."




it would seem to me   that a very dry season would mean more burning off.....

we have people complaining   they didnt have any burning off in their area...


are the people who have lost everything  expected to be impressed with that news... Angry Angry

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Reply #1 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 9:20am
 

Awful stuff.

We've got a bad one here in WA at the moment too:

"Close to 200 firefighters who have battled through the night to save Bullsbrook homes from a dangerous bushfire are bracing for strong easterly winds set to hamper efforts Monday morning."

Strong winds fan flames as Bullsbrook blaze continues to threaten homes

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Reply #2 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 9:23am
 
cods wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 8:22am:
[urlhttps://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates][/url]

In response to the community frustrations that have been aired this morning as a result of the significant bushfire damage seen across south-eastern Victoria, Emergency Management Commissioner Andrew Crisp said his priority at the moment is keeping people safe.

"I quite well understand some of the community sentiment but the important thing for us, we’ve still got the potential threat to life, threat to properties and we will stay focused around that," he told Today.

"I do understand some of the sentiment, I do know when people are talking about - in particular the Bunyip fire - I know there were planned burns there in 2016 and 2017.


However, planned burns can do some work in terms of slowing down the spread and the severity, but it’s not the panacea, it’s not the cure all and a fire such as this one well and truly went through and went over those planned burns."

Commissioner Crisp also said that recommendations from a Royal Commission after the Black Saturday fires - the worst in the state's history - were not ignored.

"There’s been very much a shift in relation to planned burns being based on actual hectares, which is a fairly blunt measure. The move now is to a risk-based approach," he said.

"I’ve been in this job for about six months, I’ve been out, I’ve listened to Parks people, I’ve seen what they’ve been doing in relation to the land and fire management and I’ve been very, very impressed with what they’re doing.

"We want to do whatever we can to keep communities safe but at the same time, the window for conducting planned burns is very, very limited when you think about temperatures, you think about fuel load.

"What we’ve seen over the state in the last couple years - particularly in Gippsland - as we’ve seen there’s been record low rainfall and that’s why we’ve got what we’ve got in relation to these fires on the landscapes with lightning strikes very quickly starting fires."




it would seem to me   that a very dry season would mean more burning off.....

we have people complaining   they didnt have any burning off in their area...


are the people who have lost everything  expected to be impressed with that news... Angry Angry



The problem is that it's been so darn dry for the last few years that "controlled" burning gets out of control all too often.

A classic Catch 22  Sad
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Reply #3 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 10:15am
 
cods wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 8:22am:
it would seem to me   that a very dry season would mean more burning off.....



No cods. You have once again shown your complete ignorance.
A very dry season makes it too dangerous to burn off
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Reply #4 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 10:43am
 
my neighbour Billy starts a fire nearly every september on the local show holiday. then he heads off to the show.  all the local bush fire brigade are at the show.

Billy lives at the top of the hill.

the fire slowly burns down the hill.

i sometimes go and have a look at the "fire front' and the flames are 6 inches high and burning so mildly that you can step over the fire front.

Billy is a smart fella.

some local moronic greenies brought a farm and put up signs saying "closed for revegetation".
within 2 years it was 6 foot high razor grass , braken fern and 100's of small gums and other associated crap.

it will burn in a blaze and hopefully burn their stupid log cabin and all their fences.

good , then they might piss off back to the inner suburbs and eat their smashed avacado on toast and let 'real' australians manage the bush  Wink
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Reply #5 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 11:06am
 
The problem is that many proscribed burns escape and become devastating bush fires like the ones in WA last year

Bushfires near the WA town of Albany have sparked a blame game between farmers and authorities with many questioning why prescribed burns were conducted, despite an unfavourable weather forecast

Both private landowners and the Department of Parks and Wildlife (DPAW) had been carrying out burns in the region in recent weeks, trying to make the most of the mild autumn weather to reduce fuel loads.

Thursday's strong winds caused many of those fires to escape, with more than 50 reportedly burning simultaneously.

As fires raged around them, some farmers took to social media to criticise DPAW, describing its prescribed burn in the Stirling Ranges as an "absolute disgrace" and accusing the department of not learning from previous mistakes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-26/albany-bushfire-burn-off-defended/9802094

Damned if they do and damned if they don't
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Reply #6 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 11:42am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 10:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 8:22am:
it would seem to me   that a very dry season would mean more burning off.....



No cods. You have once again shown your complete ignorance.
A very dry season makes it too dangerous to burn off



Ya rude prick, you obviously choose a time of the year when conditions , wind direction and such like   best suits the task at hand,

You sit down and enjoy that cuppa Cods . I shall pry this tick off your ass ,,


SPLAT!!, Now thats a surprise, these things are usually full of blood, But all i could find was a load of piss and wind




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Reply #7 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 3:05pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 10:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 8:22am:
it would seem to me   that a very dry season would mean more burning off.....



No cods. You have once again shown your complete ignorance.
A very dry season makes it too dangerous to burn off




well isnt that what winters for????....we do have rain you know... not on demand thats the problem...


the burning off is the same everywhere...they will now have another enquiry into these fires and the same requests will be made.....BURN OFF>...but its all too hard....more bloody excuses...when a fire goes through   everything regenerates at the same time ...usually at double the speed....

oh never mind!
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Reply #8 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 3:10pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 11:06am:
The problem is that many proscribed burns escape and become devastating bush fires like the ones in WA last year

Bushfires near the WA town of Albany have sparked a blame game between farmers and authorities with many questioning why prescribed burns were conducted, despite an unfavourable weather forecast

Both private landowners and the Department of Parks and Wildlife (DPAW) had been carrying out burns in the region in recent weeks, trying to make the most of the mild autumn weather to reduce fuel loads.

Thursday's strong winds caused many of those fires to escape, with more than 50 reportedly burning simultaneously.

As fires raged around them, some farmers took to social media to criticise DPAW, describing its prescribed burn in the Stirling Ranges as an "absolute disgrace" and accusing the department of not learning from previous mistakes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-26/albany-bushfire-burn-off-defended/9802094

Damned if they do and damned if they don't




we never do.....9 houses at least have gone   so far everyone is safe so thats a blessing.....but the horror for them isnt over......


seems to me we should be better at this....isnt prevention better than the cure???....we have had a long hot dry summer  not even too mention a 10 yr drought..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes... yet nothing was done to prevent this from spreading as fast as it did.... Roll Eyes


but that ok lets just have another enquiry .

that at least looks good.


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Reply #9 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 3:44pm
 
Like aqua's mate - the old place where I lived ('the farm') country had an annual accidental fire across the ridge tops... farmer would light a small burn-off and - lo and behold oh goodness me  - it would escape and clear the undergrowth on the ridges... never had a serious fire...

There should be prescribed cleared circles around houses and such... insanity living in the trees on a ridge top without any hazard reduction.

Give me a home among the gum trees.. Jayzuz...
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Reply #10 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 3:56pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 3:44pm:
Like aqua's mate - the old place where I lived ('the farm') country had an annual accidental fire across the ridge tops... farmer would light a small burn-off and - lo and behold oh goodness me  - it would escape and clear the undergrowth on the ridges... never had a serious fire...

There should be prescribed cleared circles around houses and such... insanity living in the trees on a ridge top without any hazard reduction.

Give me a home among the gum trees.. Jayzuz...

 

indeed graps, one of those ridge top fires took 24 hours to burn from the top to the bottom.  it was moving at a snails pace and then you get lovely green regrowth .
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Reply #11 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:02pm
 
I think that Whities - for all their egotistical 'mental superiority', have failed to ADAPT to the Australian environment that relies on FIRE to keep its environment in check.

Fire-proof by 90%, STRAW BALE HOUSES, would be considered a mandatory requirement in bushfire prone areas.
That would be a good start.

Aboriginals kept the landscape in check, resulting in the land being like well manicured 'Parklands' that provided more than enough food to sustain them and no need to tear down huge forest expanses to do 'crops' (and spray them with chemicals all the time and drain waterways to water them) - just to support 'over-population'.

I guess we all gotta pay more money to 'Fire Relief' packages now, just like for Farmers with Drought and Flood as usual?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:07pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
I think that Whities - for all their egotistical 'mental superiority', have failed to ADAPT to the Australian environment that relies on FIRE to keep its environment in check.

Fire-proof by 90%, STRAW BALE HOUSES, would be considered a mandatory requirement in bushfire prone areas.
That would be a good start.

Aboriginals kept the landscape in check, resulting in the land being like well manicured 'Parklands' that provided more than enough food to sustain them and no need to tear down huge forest expanses to do 'crops' (and spray them with chemicals all the time and drain waterways to water them) - just to support 'over-population'.

I guess we all gotta pay more money to 'Fire Relief' packages now, just like for Farmers with Drought and Flood as usual?  Roll Eyes



JaSin , Now that we have connected can I be totally honest with you ?


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Reply #13 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:08pm
 
I suppose it's the risk you take by plonking a house in the middle of the bush. Nature doesn't care who you are or how much your house is worth.
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Reply #14 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:09pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
I suppose it's the risk you take by plonking a house in the middle of the bush. Nature doesn't care who you are or how much your house is worth.



You are solig gold Mr Hammer



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