Aussie wrote on Mar 2
nd, 2019 at 3:34pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Mar 2
nd, 2019 at 3:11pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 2
nd, 2019 at 3:07pm:
There is just no point. No point at all.
It's a pity that so many stupid people have ruined discussion of this subject - I suppose then there's no alternative to war since your side will not withdraw their troops....
Ye Grappler.....why is it that every time a Topic about domestic violence..this one including cyberspace.....you always ambush it with your personal gripe/agenda which might very well be soundly based.
You will drive people off the subject with your obsession.
Mothra made the damn discussion non gender, but you did not see that because of personal blinkers.
Fact is...people get harassed on the www.....including intra spouse. Isn't
that the Topic?
I'm afraid you have it backwards, Aussie - the entire issue has been ambushed for over 25 years now and forced onto a field totally controlled by those who favour the women's side.
How is that 'my' personal issue? It is an issue that covers every citizen.....
Let us recoup:-
1. these 'laws were set up with zero consultation with men.
2. at no time have men held equal seating at any ongoing or further discussion of these issues and these 'laws'.
3. women and their running dogs are permitted to complain and protest every day - men are abused and insulted when they do so.
4. from the outset, women were handed free legal assistance to cater to ANY whim - men had to pay to defend in a biased and stacked 'court' that did not abide by Law.
5. No evidence contrary to the woman concerned was entertained - she could have a lengthy history of psychiatric illness and it would still not be permitted in evidence.
6. self-interest groups - primarily 'feminists' - actively worked to extend and extend the 'definition' of 'violence against women' so that it has now come to mean anything that may upset any woman. Again no evidence to the contrary is permitted.
7. now we have a move afoot - and a move only it is - to 'include' assaulted men - but only on the same playing field as already owned by women.
8. this does not ever in any way discuss the very real violence, abuse, and rape of civil and legal rights suffered by far too many men over those 25+ years
9. the effect of this selfish feminist insanity is most seen on children - men's children
10. the direct approach of using violence as the first port of call in attending any 'domestic violence' issue - without any attempt to collect facts and behave fairly and reasonably - is THE main cause of violence in such matters.
11. the secondary abuse and violence of the illegal imposition by a 'court' of one-sided and fact-free restraints on ONE side, regardless of facts and guilt, flies in the face of human nature and its craving for fair play, and is itself the greatest cause of violence while being violence in itself.
12. many women 'running from domestic violence' are in fact running from their own guilt over what they've done and are feeling rightfully fearful of retaliation for having violated and had violated someone else. It is also convenient to claim 'violence' in seeking somewhere to stay and get something for nothing in separation proceedings - where the same or even greater bias prevails.
13. I've said time and again that no resolution to 'apprehension of even continued contact' by using the institutionalised violence of police and courts will ever resolve violence - for the simple reason that it IS violence.
`14. holding out an olive branch of saying that genuinely abused men should now be treated equally does not resolve the institutionalised violence against men first and foremost, and in no way removes or resolves the reality that the current approach is itself violence and is the cause of escalating violence on all sides.
“Let her [Truth] and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter? Her confuting is the best and surest suppressing.”― John Milton, Areopagitica
"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak, and that it is doing God's service when it is violating all His laws."John Adams.
Who in his right mind would hand a retard or a mad feminist a loaded gun?
“The use of force is a last resort. One aspect of violence is that it is unpredictable. Although your initial intention may be to use limited force, once you have engaged in violence the consequences are unpredictable. Violence always brings about unexpected results and almost always provokes retaliation.”- Dalai Lama
Using force and violence to resolve apprehension of force and violence will never work, it will instead escalate violence and force.