Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Mar 4^th, 2019 at 8:59am:

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/lifestyle/daily-life/cyberbullying-victims-australi...




its just a small part you may be interested in reading...


dont forget grap  cyberspace is pretty new.....the tools they now have are also making it easier for people who have a penchant for making someone elses life miserable..... stalking is now becoming the norm....

it is invading all sides   your obsession with turning everything into an anti male episode is confusing the whole point of the threads.....

we cant help stats.... and the stats say a women per week is murdered by a male.....



these stats are 2017


Males were involved in 82.6 per cent of adult male deaths, 93.5 per cent of adult female deaths and 55.6 per cent of child and youth deaths.

Women, on the other hand, were charged in 12.5 per cent of all deaths, with 10.3 per cent accused in adult male killings, 6.5 per cent of adult female killings and 44.4 per cent of child killings.

In a small number of cases there were multiple perpetrators.

Domestic violence continues to be a major factor in Australian deaths.

Former or current partners or family members were charged in 39 per cent of the killings in 2017.

About 47.5 per cent were committed by strangers, friends or associates of the victims while ‘relationship unknown’ applies to 13.6 per cent of cases.

Not surprisingly, most of the female and child deaths led to a relative being charged, with 72.9 per cent of femicides and 76.5 per cent of filicides allegedly committed by a loved one.


The body of Karen Ristevski was found in Victorian bushland earlier this year.

The body of Cooktown woman Donna Louise Steele was found wrapped up in a creek in August this year.
Total men killed = 108. Total women killed = 48. Total children and young people killed = 17.

THESE numbers are more than symbols on a page.

Every one of these figures represents someone who was loved, cherished, adored and appreciated by family and friends.

All of these victims were Aussies who had the same kind of dreams and aspirations as you and I.

Some of were tiny human beings with an entire lifetime ahead of them, many were grown men and women, and some, well they were in the twilight of their existence.

Not one of these people deserved to have their life snuffed out.

Alleged male perpetrators = 82 per cent. Alleged female perpetrators = 12.5 per cent

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2019 at 3:14pm:



"""a broken mind is just as bad as a broken body..""""



Yea, Minds farked !!




Hard n Fast

Setanta wrote on Mar 4^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:



Not only is much of that wildly untrue, you're gaslighting Cods. She knows what Grap is saying. he says it ad infinitum.

What Grap is saying is not that it an an equal problem, i tried to make it gender neutral and got howled down. Grap is very much about gender bias ... but it against women.

Grap believes, and aggressively dominates every thread on this subject with his beliefs. that most cases of family violence are not genuine. That men are simply being victimised by a feminist supported attack on men who are then the victims of the "true violence". That being the intervention of the authorities.

He believes there is a gender war against men. that men are largely innocent in this and are the true victims of family violence.

Of course, the research and evidence does not support this.

Grap has even claimed that Australian men do not rape.

He is utterly delusional.

Grap is bitter because he was on the receiving end of a AVO he doesn't feel he deserved ... yet i can see, going by his behaviour on here, that he is very likely to have been abusive. Like many men, he is resistant in recognising his affect on other people and just how intimidating and frightening an angry man can be. Whether or not he was physically violent is of course unknown yet there is a distinct pattern of dominance and abuse in his behaviour ... i think you can stick your hand up for that also.

There is absolutely no question that women can be abusive also and we are often masters of psychological warfare. This is something we need to address more openly than we do yet the facts remain that the immediate risks of safety and physical harm come generally from the violence of men  both to us and to each other.

Furthermore, Grqap blames women (specifically feminists) for th lack fo support for male victims, overlooking entirely the fact that not only do feminist inspired programs work tirelessly to implement support for men( i am one of them), the primary contributing factor in men not seeking help is because of the stigma attached by society and other men to a man who has been abused by a woman.

You'd probably call him "poofy".

The irrefutable fact is that there is a problem with some men and violence Blaming feminists for it is ridiculous. It was around a long time before we hit the ground.

And something like the Gillette ad comes along to try to address it and you all get triggered. Never have i seen such a display of entitled whinging. The funny thing is, you nearly riot over it being suggested you strive for a higher path yet demand your right to 'offend' as many people as possible in a backlash to PC.

You'll never see it though. And you won't agree with a word of this.

Doesn't make me any less right though.

cods wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 5:49am:



And i think here, Grap has a point. The research doesn't suggest that it is predominantly males abusing cyberspace ... yet the media tends to focus only on them.

I made this point at the beginning of the thread but it got steamrolled over.

The fact remains though that the stakes tend to be higher when males do it . ie: there is a greater likelihood of violent outcome.

And therein lies the rub for people who want equal representation for family violence. Men are made complicit more often than women by the media and this highly antagonises many people.

Yet those antagonised are comparing apples to oranges. Yes it is true that women are also complicit yet when looking at that objectively, family violence perpetrated by women seldom ends up in death or grievous bodily harm.

And that is the bottom line.

While we seriously should, as a society, look closely at the interpersonal habits of ourselves and each other, we need to stem the flow of what is most pressing.

Unfortunately for people like Grap, this is seen as an attack on men.

I am more hopeful. I see addressing the more obvious points of family violence as a vehicle to more intense scrutiny and better understanding.

This is what gives me hope.

mothra wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 7:16am:


No, my dove - it is an attack on rights and on truth to proceed without evidence with a fair expectation of it ending as proof.  Huge difference to simply attacking men.  the attack on men is government sponsored for the purposes of allowing the weak and self-interested 'men' and 'women' in politics to have no real competition... and is dedicated to bringing the entire society under despotism of a ruling elite who know it all better than those who live it.

What would give some hope to everybody would be that round table discussion of all interest groups - Shortenski is still locked into the concept of stopping violence against women and children, and is continuing to ignore the realities - such as that children suffer more violence and abuse from women than from men.  What about men and their children being supported?

Do men and particularly men already aggrieved by this have an offer of a seat at the table?  NO!  A few manginas maybe - but Men?  Never!

Still stuck on the old and worn out paradigm of 'man evil - woman angel' - utter  nonsense and will never resolve the real issues, and Shortenski obviously sees benefit in this.. indeed if he approached it in any other way than the City Hall approved one - he would be ousted and vilified as some form of woman hater.

Such people should never be allowed anywhere near these issues - because they will inevitably inflame them more, not solve them.  Throwing more and more power of the state against individuals will result in more deaths - ye've my word on it... I'm not promoting it - I'm saying it is inevitable while ever this approach is taken of exerting violence to purportedly cure violence.      

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 4:15pm:


""Remember that African nation with two tribes?""


And what fantasy did you grab that from Mr Grap ? That's like trying to find a Maori whom knows who his father is

BigP wrote on Mar 5^th, 2019 at 4:19pm:


Check back a few pages - it's all there for the self-uninitiated.