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Reply #60 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 8:56am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 5:49am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 8^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

More ranting from electric-wannabe-nail. Rants for decades and is yet to actually BUY an EV.

Better EVs are coming out, but the range anxiety is still a huge problem in australia. People like to drive long distances. We dont have to plan if a town has a petrol station because they ALL have petrol stations. But chargers are almost nowhere. And with this utterly idiotic idea of chargers being only for specific brands, it just makes it worse.

I suspect that electric nail never actually goes anywhere to have to worry about range anxiety. But real people go on real trips to real places where a charger simply doesnt exist. And if it does, who wants to wait hours or days in queue only to wait hours to recharge?

no one.

Ahh the the old chicken or the egg....
Every place where there is power there can be a public electric charger built and quickly….
Hate to mention Tesla again but they are the only company really doing anything in the western world with EV's.
They have sold 500,000 cars roughly and have 12.000 chargers installed worldwide. the Tesla's can also charge at any other charging station.. When the cars get built then the charger will come, its business.
The modern chargers are now going up to 350kw and will charge a vehicle very fast.. Tesla can go 600km's then with the just released supercharger 3 can recharge 400km in about 25-30 mins.... I know some people love driving without a break but I know I would never do 1000km's without a few breaks... You forget for about 95% of driving Electric car owners simply recharge their cars at home and for most of the year never have to goto a gas station….If it takes 2 times as long to refill a EV than a normal car once or twice a year for a long trip and never having to goto a gas station for the rest of the year , what would you choose ?

A) world-wide means nothing to me. It matters what is NEAR me and that is none at all. And if you dont want a TESLA EV there is even less than none
B) 350kw chargers do not exist. They are currently developing 250Kw and still, none in Australia.
C) it is not about what you do 'most of the time'. It is what you can do, period. My petrol cr can take me ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. an EV cant do either.
D) I can refill my car in 5mins. Dont give me the BS I can do it in an EV in 10mins
E) 95% of EV owners also have a petrol car. Also, most EV owners live within range of a couple other countries. We barely live that close to other TOWNS.

The concept is fine but until there are 500kw EV chargers everywhere and no major queues, petrol will rule - whichis why lierally 98% of cars bought today are ICE

AND LET ME GUESS.... You dont own an EV yourself, do you. None of you EV-wankers ever do.

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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #61 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 9:26am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 8^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

More ranting from electric-wannabe-nail. Rants for decades and is yet to actually BUY an EV.

Better EVs are coming out, but the range anxiety is still a huge problem in australia. People like to drive long distances. We dont have to plan if a town has a petrol station because they ALL have petrol stations. But chargers are almost nowhere. And with this utterly idiotic idea of chargers being only for specific brands, it just makes it worse.

I suspect that electric nail never actually goes anywhere to have to worry about range anxiety. But real people go on real trips to real places where a charger simply doesnt exist. And if it does, who wants to wait hours or days in queue only to wait hours to recharge?

no one.

Hows GMC going dickhead ?

I hear they are closing 5 more GMC manufacturing plants and not one of them is making EV's ! Don't say you weren't told !

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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #62 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 9:48am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 5:49am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 8^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

More ranting from electric-wannabe-nail. Rants for decades and is yet to actually BUY an EV.

Better EVs are coming out, but the range anxiety is still a huge problem in australia. People like to drive long distances. We dont have to plan if a town has a petrol station because they ALL have petrol stations. But chargers are almost nowhere. And with this utterly idiotic idea of chargers being only for specific brands, it just makes it worse.

I suspect that electric nail never actually goes anywhere to have to worry about range anxiety. But real people go on real trips to real places where a charger simply doesnt exist. And if it does, who wants to wait hours or days in queue only to wait hours to recharge?

no one.

Ahh the the old chicken or the egg....
Every place where there is power there can be a public electric charger built and quickly….
Hate to mention Tesla again but they are the only company really doing anything in the western world with EV's.
They have sold 500,000 cars roughly and have 12.000 chargers installed worldwide. the Tesla's can also charge at any other charging station.. When the cars get built then the charger will come, its business.
The modern chargers are now going up to 350kw and will charge a vehicle very fast.. Tesla can go 600km's then with the just released supercharger 3 can recharge 400km in about 25-30 mins.... I know some people love driving without a break but I know I would never do 1000km's without a few breaks... You forget for about 95% of driving Electric car owners simply recharge their cars at home and for most of the year never have to goto a gas station….If it takes 2 times as long to refill a EV than a normal car once or twice a year for a long trip and never having to goto a gas station for the rest of the year , what would you choose ?

A) world-wide means nothing to me. It matters what is NEAR me and that is none at all. And if you dont want a TESLA EV there is even less than none
B) 350kw chargers do not exist. They are currently developing 250Kw and still, none in Australia.
C) it is not about what you do 'most of the time'. It is what you can do, period. My petrol cr can take me ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. an EV cant do either.
D) I can refill my car in 5mins. Dont give me the BS I can do it in an EV in 10mins
E) 95% of EV owners also have a petrol car. Also, most EV owners live within range of a couple other countries. We barely live that close to other TOWNS.

The concept is fine but until there are 500kw EV chargers everywhere and no major queues, petrol will rule - whichis why lierally 98% of cars bought today are ICE

AND LET ME GUESS.... You dont own an EV yourself, do you. None of you EV-wankers ever do.

Still stuck in the past longprong with your old clunker ? Cheesy

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #63 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:20am And Wanker-nail isnt driving an EV either hypocrite
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30381 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #64 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:31am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:20am: And Wanker-nail isnt driving an EV either hypocrite But I've driven a Tesla model S. Have you ?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111808 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #65 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:35am Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:31am: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:20am: And Wanker-nail isnt driving an EV either hypocrite But I've driven a Tesla model S. Have you ? Longy drives an old V8 gas guzzler and vastly overestimates its value.
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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #66 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:38am People are not as stupid as is generally believed If/when EV are affordable, can supply to demand -- sure, people will be driving them
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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #67 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:52am

PZ547 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:38am:

People are not as stupid as is generally believed

If/when EV are affordable, can supply to demand -- sure, people will be driving them

Sure - especially people who have solar panels on their roof.
They can charge up on the weekend and
drive all week to work for free.

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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #68 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:38am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:52am:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:38am:

People are not as stupid as is generally believed

If/when EV are affordable, can supply to demand -- sure, people will be driving them

Sure - especially people who have solar panels on their roof.
They can charge up on the weekend and
drive all week to work for free.

as long as they drive very short distances from home.

And you think we should pay 30% MORE for a car that can do so much less???

Now you know why stats show that 95% of people who own EVs also own an ICE car. The facts are that almost NO ONE owns just an EV.

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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #69 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:39am

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

And Wanker-nail isnt driving an EV either

hypocrite

But I've driven a Tesla model S. Have you ?

Ive driven many cars including a Maclaren. Your point is what? YOU SAT IN ONE???

come back when you actually BUY ONE, moron.

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Reply #70 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:45am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:39am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

And Wanker-nail isnt driving an EV either

hypocrite

But I've driven a Tesla model S. Have you ?

Ive driven many cars including a Maclaren. Your point is what? YOU SAT IN ONE???

come back when you actually BUY ONE, moron.

I actually drove it dickhead !

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Reply #71 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:48am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:52am:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:38am:

People are not as stupid as is generally believed

If/when EV are affordable, can supply to demand -- sure, people will be driving them

Sure - especially people who have solar panels on their roof.
They can charge up on the weekend and
drive all week to work for free.

as long as they drive very short distances from home.

And you think we should pay 30% MORE for a car that can do so much less???

Now you know why stats show that 95% of people who own EVs also own an ICE car. The facts are that almost NO ONE owns just an EV.

If you had to drive more than 600k's to work each day then you'd better find another job or go by plane Cheesy

LOL

Most people will drive to work and then come home and connect it up to the power point to top it up in much the same way they do with their smart phone or laptop etc. But then you are not most people are you. You're just a loser who votes for the do-nothing LNP Cheesy

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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #72 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 1:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:39am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

And Wanker-nail isnt driving an EV either

hypocrite

But I've driven a Tesla model S. Have you ?

Ive driven many cars including a Maclaren. Your point is what? YOU SAT IN ONE???

come back when you actually BUY ONE, moron.

I actually drove it dickhead !

Whoop-dee-doo...

COME BACK WHEN YOU'VE BOUGHT ONE

Hypocrite

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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #73 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 1:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:52am:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:38am:

People are not as stupid as is generally believed

If/when EV are affordable, can supply to demand -- sure, people will be driving them

Sure - especially people who have solar panels on their roof.
They can charge up on the weekend and
drive all week to work for free.

as long as they drive very short distances from home.

And you think we should pay 30% MORE for a car that can do so much less???

Now you know why stats show that 95% of people who own EVs also own an ICE car. The facts are that almost NO ONE owns just an EV.

30% more?

I envisage electric cars being cheaper before long than ICE cars.
I reckon under $20K within 2 years.

If someone only has 10 to 15 minute drive to work & back every day &
a 5 minute drive to the supermarket twice a week,
then 1 charge on the weekend from their solar panels
will be more than enough to meet their needs.

Longy,
you're living in the past,
you're using 100 year old technology.

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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #74 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 1:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 1:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:52am:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 10:38am:

People are not as stupid as is generally believed

If/when EV are affordable, can supply to demand -- sure, people will be driving them

Sure - especially people who have solar panels on their roof.
They can charge up on the weekend and
drive all week to work for free.

as long as they drive very short distances from home.

And you think we should pay 30% MORE for a car that can do so much less???

Now you know why stats show that 95% of people who own EVs also own an ICE car. The facts are that almost NO ONE owns just an EV.

30% more?

I envisage electric cars being cheaper before long than ICE cars.
I reckon under $20K within 2 years.

If someone only has 10 to 15 minute drive to work & back every day &
a 5 minute drive to the supermarket twice a week,
then 1 charge on the weekend from their solar panels
will be more than enough to meet their needs.

Longy,
you're living in the past,
you're using 100 year old technology.

What you 'evisage' is worthless and EVs are much, much more expensive than EVs. If all you drive is what you describe then you have no life, no friends and no ambition.

YOU dont own and EV either, dipstick. None of you ev-wankers ever do.

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