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Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ?
Reply #45 - Feb 25^th, 2019 at 3:08pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

No do what you do best and invest in doing nothing and give tax payers money to all of your mates for some hare brain business venture.

And I thought you were the international businessman. Grin

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Spend 5 bill a year on work for the dole job network scams that don't create one single job

And you solution would be to spend $10 million that creates pseudo-green jobs, or should that be green pseudo-jobs. Grin

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Reply #46 - Feb 25^th, 2019 at 9:41pm

lee wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

No do what you do best and invest in doing nothing and give tax payers money to all of your mates for some hare brain business venture.

And I thought you were the international businessman. Grin

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Spend 5 bill a year on work for the dole job network scams that don't create one single job

And you solution would be to spend $10 million that creates pseudo-green jobs, or should that be green pseudo-jobs. Grin

So it's better to dole out 5 bill a year to the crooked job network instead of making electric cars or windmills as you like to put it ?

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Reply #47 - Feb 25^th, 2019 at 10:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

So it's better to dole out 5 bill a year to the crooked job network instead of making electric cars or windmills as you like to put it ?

Oh you mean those new electric vehicles that are simply flowing off the showroom floors so they obviously don't need government largess.

And those windmills that are being assembled here. Nothing about them being manufactured here. They are supposed to be cheaper than coal now. Can't see a need for government investment in them either.

In fact it would seem with prices being more competitive that the government would lose money. Then of course there are training costs. And the latest reports from high schools is students are opting out of maths, physics and chemistry. Can't see too many prospective employees there.

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Reply #48 - Feb 25^th, 2019 at 10:49pm

lee wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 10:29pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

So it's better to dole out 5 bill a year to the crooked job network instead of making electric cars or windmills as you like to put it ?

Oh you mean those new electric vehicles that are simply flowing off the showroom floors so they obviously don't need government largess.

And those windmills that are being assembled here. Nothing about them being manufactured here. They are supposed to be cheaper than coal now. Can't see a need for government investment in them either.

In fact it would seem with prices being more competitive that the government would lose money. Then of course there are training costs. And the latest reports from high schools is students are opting out of maths, physics and chemistry. Can't see too many prospective employees there.

but lets use tax payers money to resurrect an old clapped out coal fired power station. What a great deal Cheesy

LOL

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18870 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #49 - Feb 25^th, 2019 at 11:25pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 10:49pm: but lets use tax payers money to resurrect an old clapped out coal fired power station. What a great deal Which one did you have in mind?
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30382 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #50 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 9:53am lee wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 11:25pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 10:49pm: but lets use tax payers money to resurrect an old clapped out coal fired power station. What a great deal Which one did you have in mind? The one powering snowy mountain 2.0 LOL
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18870 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #51 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 11:15am Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 9:53am: The one powering snowy mountain 2.0 Now you have really lost it. Snowy 2 isn't even built yet. So no coal plant has been closed yet to accommodate it to be "resurrected".
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Reply #52 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 12:03pm

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 11:15am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 9:53am:

The one powering snowy mountain 2.0

Now you have really lost it. Huh

Snowy 2 isn't even built yet. So no coal plant has been closed yet to accommodate it to be "resurrected".

But that is what it is going to be driven by isn't it ?

f.ckhead energy minister wouldn't confirm nor deny it.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18870 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #53 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:59pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 12:03pm: But that is what it is going to be driven by isn't it ? The Snowy2 hydro is going to be driven by fossil fuels?
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30382 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #54 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:18pm lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:59pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 12:03pm: But that is what it is going to be driven by isn't it ? The Snowy2 hydro is going to be driven by fossil fuels? coal for sure
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18870 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #55 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:32pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:18pm: coal for sure They are going to pump coal down the pipes?
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30382 Gender:	Re: What if every fossil fool car had a $$$$ meter ? Reply #56 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:57pm lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:32pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:18pm: coal for sure They are going to pump coal down the pipes? coal fired power is what they are going to store.
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Reply #57 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 3:36pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

coal fired power is what they are going to store.

Really? How does one store coal fired power? batteries? Oh Dear. Do you have a reference for that or is it one of those things you just "know". Wink

If they are storing coal fired power does that mean Snowy2 is a wash from the start?

But then Snowy Hydro Limited is an independent entity with a Board of Directors and all. They carry out there own investigations into what they wish to do and how they wish to implement.

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Reply #58 - Mar 8^th, 2019 at 3:53pm

More ranting from electric-wannabe-nail. Rants for decades and is yet to actually BUY an EV.

Better EVs are coming out, but the range anxiety is still a huge problem in australia. People like to drive long distances. We dont have to plan if a town has a petrol station because they ALL have petrol stations. But chargers are almost nowhere. And with this utterly idiotic idea of chargers being only for specific brands, it just makes it worse.

I suspect that electric nail never actually goes anywhere to have to worry about range anxiety. But real people go on real trips to real places where a charger simply doesnt exist. And if it does, who wants to wait hours or days in queue only to wait hours to recharge?

no one.

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Reply #59 - Mar 9^th, 2019 at 5:49am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 8^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

More ranting from electric-wannabe-nail. Rants for decades and is yet to actually BUY an EV.

Better EVs are coming out, but the range anxiety is still a huge problem in australia. People like to drive long distances. We dont have to plan if a town has a petrol station because they ALL have petrol stations. But chargers are almost nowhere. And with this utterly idiotic idea of chargers being only for specific brands, it just makes it worse.

I suspect that electric nail never actually goes anywhere to have to worry about range anxiety. But real people go on real trips to real places where a charger simply doesnt exist. And if it does, who wants to wait hours or days in queue only to wait hours to recharge?

no one.

Ahh the the old chicken or the egg....
Every place where there is power there can be a public electric charger built and quickly….
Hate to mention Tesla again but they are the only company really doing anything in the western world with EV's.
They have sold 500,000 cars roughly and have 12.000 chargers installed worldwide. the Tesla's can also charge at any other charging station.. When the cars get built then the charger will come, its business.
The modern chargers are now going up to 350kw and will charge a vehicle very fast.. Tesla can go 600km's then with the just released supercharger 3 can recharge 400km in about 25-30 mins.... I know some people love driving without a break but I know I would never do 1000km's without a few breaks... You forget for about 95% of driving Electric car owners simply recharge their cars at home and for most of the year never have to goto a gas station….If it takes 2 times as long to refill a EV than a normal car once or twice a year for a long trip and never having to goto a gas station for the rest of the year , what would you choose ?

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