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Reply #165 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees - and shout from the rooftops that this is such a great opportunity for people who might arrive by boat.

The cynicial and totally irresponsible opportunism of the government over this bill - putting our border security directly at risk - is shocking and despicable.

If boats do start up again, it will be because Morrison, not Shorten, laid out the welcome mat.

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Reply #166 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 10:01am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees - and shout from the rooftops that this is such a great opportunity for people who might arrive by boat.

The cynicial and totally irresponsible opportunism of the government over this bill - putting our border security directly at risk - is shocking and despicable.

If boats do start up again, it will be because Morrison, not Shorten, laid out the welcome mat.

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Reply #167 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 10:14am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees - and shout from the rooftops that this is such a great opportunity for people who might arrive by boat.

The cynicial and totally irresponsible opportunism of the government over this bill - putting our border security directly at risk - is shocking and despicable.

If boats do start up again, it will be because Morrison, not Shorten, laid out the welcome mat.

However the Coalition have Dutton who would rather see refugees die in detention than allow any to set foot in Australia....The Coalition hold the threat of death in detention if any asylum seekers attempt to ask Australia for help....Much better to kill a few innocent people in detention than send a message Australia is in any way compassionate or caring about anyone who seeks asylum whilst the Coalition are in charge....Strong border are more important than caring for innocent people???

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Reply #168 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 10:15am

Its time wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 10:01am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees - and shout from the rooftops that this is such a great opportunity for people who might arrive by boat.

The cynicial and totally irresponsible opportunism of the government over this bill - putting our border security directly at risk - is shocking and despicable.

If boats do start up again, it will be because Morrison, not Shorten, laid out the welcome mat.

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 49764 Gender:	Re: Morrison sends welcome signals to people smugglers Reply #169 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:18pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am: Whats the best way to start up the boats? Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees What is the basis of that assertion?
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Reply #170 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:24pm

Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees

What is the basis of that assertion?

FMD.

Link.

It has been stated over and over and over again. This Act applies ONLY to those still on Manus and Nauru.

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Reply #171 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:10pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees

What is the basis of that assertion?

FMD.

Link.

It has been stated over and over and over again. This Act applies ONLY to those still on Manus and Nauru.

Your link is to a paywalled Fin Review article, NOT the Act. There is NOTHING in the explanatory notes accompanying the Act to indicate that this amendment of the Migration ACt 1958 will not apply to future arrivals.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2018B00236/Download

So I do not believe your assertion or the Fin Review's because i cannot verify either. Can you?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75985 Gender:	Re: Morrison sends welcome signals to people smugglers Reply #172 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:24pm Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:10pm: There is NOTHING in the explanatory notes accompanying the Act to indicate that this amendment of the Migration ACt 1958 will not apply to future arrivals. boat turn back is still the policy .... what future arrivals?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 141785 Gender:	Re: Morrison sends welcome signals to people smugglers Reply #173 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:29pm Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:10pm: There is NOTHING in the explanatory notes accompanying the Act to indicate that this amendment of the Migration ACt 1958 will not apply to future arrivals. Future arrivals? Have the boats stopped, or haven't they? You seem confused.
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Reply #174 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:10pm:

There is NOTHING in the explanatory notes accompanying the Act to indicate that this amendment of the Migration ACt 1958 will not apply to future arrivals.

Future arrivals?

Have the boats stopped, or haven't they?

You seem confused.

Focus, you two shiteheads, Turd 1 (gweggy) and Turd 2 (Gino Smith) - T1 and T2:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees

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Reply #175 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 8:22am

Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees

What is the basis of that assertion?

Its been reported all over the news that Bill Shorten inserted an extra ammendment to ensure that only existing detainees qualify. Not even the government is denying this, which they surely would if it really wasn't true. In fact Morrisson tried to dismiss it as a "nuance"

Only the crackpot of conspiracy theorists would believe that the Shorten ammendment that all the media have been reporting on - doesn't actually exist.

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Reply #176 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 8:33am

Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 8:10pm:

There is NOTHING in the explanatory notes accompanying the Act to indicate that this amendment of the Migration ACt 1958 will not apply to future arrivals.

Future arrivals?

Have the boats stopped, or haven't they?

You seem confused.

Focus, you two shiteheads, Turd 1 (gweggy) and Turd 2 (Gino Smith) - T1 and T2:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats?

Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees

That's right: existing detainees only.

So why would it start up the boats?

I'm curious.

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Reply #177 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:47pm

We need a Federal Integrity Commission....These wankers could not lie straight in bed???

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Report on 'ASIO leak' criticised

Mr Lewis also used his Senate estimates appearance to slam The Australian newspaper's reporting of an "ASIO leak" about the medevac bill.

"The advice that ASIO gave was not what was represented on the front page of The Australian newspaper."

The Australian's front page report 'Phelps bill a security risk: ASIO', published on February 7, that ASIO advice suggested almost all of the remaining 1000 people on Manus Island and Nauru could come to Australia under the medevac bill.

However, Mr Lewis said his organisation's advice was limited to matters related to the application of the ASIO Act.

In the lead up to the vote on the legislation, the government repeatedly claimed that security agencies had warned that the bill would weaken Australia's borders and restart the people smugglers trade.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-says-medevac-bill-opens-door-to-asylum-se...

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18265 Gender:	Re: Morrison sends welcome signals to people smugglers Reply #178 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:52pm philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:47pm: We need a Federal Integrity Commission. The Australian Newspaper is now the Government?
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Reply #179 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 7:01pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:47pm:

We need a Federal Integrity Commission....These wankers could not lie straight in bed???

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Report on 'ASIO leak' criticised

Mr Lewis also used his Senate estimates appearance to slam The Australian newspaper's reporting of an "ASIO leak" about the medevac bill.

"The advice that ASIO gave was not what was represented on the front page of The Australian newspaper."

The Australian's front page report 'Phelps bill a security risk: ASIO', published on February 7, that ASIO advice suggested almost all of the remaining 1000 people on Manus Island and Nauru could come to Australia under the medevac bill.

However, Mr Lewis said his organisation's advice was limited to matters related to the application of the ASIO Act.

In the lead up to the vote on the legislation, the government repeatedly claimed that security agencies had warned that the bill would weaken Australia's borders and restart the people smugglers trade.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-says-medevac-bill-opens-door-to-asylum-se...

The Government knew this was not the advice given by ASIO???

Huh

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