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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Michaelia Cash To Front Court Over Union Raids Reply #30 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:11pm John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:08pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:02pm: a independant political party what ballot paper are they on? So why have GetUp! got a campaign going right now to asshole Abbott then if they aren't a political party muppet?
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Reply #31 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:14pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:11pm:

So why have GetUp! got a campaign going right now to asshole Abbott then if they aren't a political party muppet?

so when newscorp was running a campaign against labor they were a political party? Cheesy

do you even stop to think before the poo pours out of your mouth or do you just open up and let it run?

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Reply #32 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:18pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:11pm:

So why have GetUp! got a campaign going right now to asshole Abbott then if they aren't a political party muppet?

so when newscorp was running a campaign against labor they were a political party? Cheesy

do you even stop to think before the poo pours out of your mouth or do you just open up and let it run?

The problem is you are a mushroom. No dipshit. Bill gave them $100,000 of union members money. Obviously they are on Bill's books. Bit fishy hey. They are obviously a unofficial offshoot of the Labor Party.

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Reply #33 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:19pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 6:59pm:

are you trying to take stupid to new levels?

No I leave that to you. You are doing exceptionally well.

I note you left out your reply where you said "they work in my favour then yours". So you would rather they work in your favour than being decided on evidence. Wink

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 6:59pm:

only in so far as explaining to you the definition of a liar.

Oh you think I needed a definition? How cute. Then seeing as you say so perhaps you could post PROOF. Not your little lame brained "you wouldn't want the laws to favour you". Never heard of "Equality before the Law"?

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Reply #34 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:11pm:

So why have GetUp! got a campaign going right now to asshole Abbott then if they aren't a political party muppet?

so when newscorp was running a campaign against labor they were a political party? Cheesy

do you even stop to think before the poo pours out of your mouth or do you just open up and let it run?

The problem is you are a mushroom. No dipshit. Bill gave them $100,000 of union members money. Obviously they are on Bill's books. Bit fishy hey. They are obviously a unofficial offshoot of the Labor Party.

and abbott gave murdoch $30m of taxpayer money. Cheesy

the difference is that the unions can donate money to whoever they want, no matter how much you cry about it, whereas Abbott should not be using tax dollars to pay his bribes

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60767 Here Gender:	Re: Michaelia Cash To Front Court Over Union Raids Reply #35 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:21pm Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:36pm: Pecca loves stuffed up workplaces and squandered union fees. It's his living. You got an opinion on the topic ? You support politicians using the AFP as their own personal political police force to be used against their opposition ?
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Reply #36 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:24pm

lee wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

I note you left out your reply where you said "they work in my favour then yours". So you would rather they work in your favour than being decided on evidence. Wink

if I'm in court? bloody oaf. I've answered this three times now. Do you suffer from dementia?

lee wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

Oh you think I needed a definition? How cute.

I know you needed it.

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Reply #37 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:27pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

Pecca loves stuffed up workplaces and squandered union fees. It's his living.

You got an opinion on the topic ?

You support politicians using the AFP as their own personal political police force to be used against their opposition ?

If it's for good reason. Like stealing peoples union fees for political activism I do. It's a disgraceful state of affairs.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19688 Gender:	Re: Michaelia Cash To Front Court Over Union Raids Reply #38 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:29pm John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:24pm: if I'm in court? Oh so what laws work in your favour out of court?
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Reply #39 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:11pm:

So why have GetUp! got a campaign going right now to asshole Abbott then if they aren't a political party muppet?

so when newscorp was running a campaign against labor they were a political party? Cheesy

do you even stop to think before the poo pours out of your mouth or do you just open up and let it run?

The problem is you are a mushroom. No dipshit. Bill gave them $100,000 of union members money. Obviously they are on Bill's books. Bit fishy hey. They are obviously a unofficial offshoot of the Labor Party.

and abbott gave murdoch $30m of taxpayer money. Cheesy

the difference is that the unions can donate money to whoever they want, no matter how much you cry about it, whereas Abbott should not be using tax dollars to pay his bribes

So in one sentence you condemn political donations and then defend Bill Shorten ripping off union fees. Tax is the governments money to spend on our country. Union fees belong to the worker. That's the difference. Union fees are part of a pool to help workers in times of need. Not to be spent on Bill's dirty dealings.

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Reply #40 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

Pecca loves stuffed up workplaces and squandered union fees. It's his living.

You got an opinion on the topic ?

You support politicians using the AFP as their own personal political police force to be used against their opposition ?

If it's for good reason. Like stealing peoples union fees for political activism I do. It's a disgraceful state of affairs.

Cash could not have cared less - what it was about was to try and stitch up Bill on a bogus claim. They royal commission had already gone through the documents.

The Libs appear to have been using the AFP on a political hatchet job and they brought in the Media to make it a prime time show.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78145 Gender:	Re: Michaelia Cash To Front Court Over Union Raids Reply #41 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:59pm lee wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:29pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:24pm: if I'm in court? Oh so what laws work in your favour out of court? all of them
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Reply #42 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:04pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

So in one sentence you condemn political donations and then defend Bill Shorten ripping off union fees.

no, I've not condemend political donations in this instance, although I often do. Murdoch didn't donate $30 mil to abbott, abbott gifted him $30m of our tax dollars

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Tax is the governments money to spend on our country.

yes, on the country. Not on propaganda for the liberal party There is a huge difference.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Union fees belong to the worker.

no they don't. They belong to the union, once you pay your fee you have no say what happens to the money

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Union fees are part of a pool to help workers in times of need.

Union fees are used for a multitude of things. That is only ONE use for them.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Not to be spent on Bill's dirty dealings.

Thats why the AFP charged bill, right? Cheesy

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Reply #43 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:05pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

Pecca loves stuffed up workplaces and squandered union fees. It's his living.

You got an opinion on the topic ?

You support politicians using the AFP as their own personal political police force to be used against their opposition ?

If it's for good reason. Like stealing peoples union fees for political activism I do. It's a disgraceful state of affairs.

Cash could not have cared less - what it was about was to try and stitch up Bill on a bogus claim. They royal commission had already gone through the documents.

The Libs appear to have been using the AFP on a political hatchet job and they brought in the Media to make it a prime time show.

It's not a bogus claim. They did it-

“Instead they were sent to our offices in large numbers to find a couple of pieces of paper relating to donations that were made over a decade ago and donations that were declared and made publicly available.

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Re: Michaelia Cash To Front Court Over Union Raids
Reply #44 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:08pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

So in one sentence you condemn political donations and then defend Bill Shorten ripping off union fees.

no, I've not condemend political donations in this instance, although I often do. Murdoch didn't donate $30 mil to abbott, abbott gifted him $30m of our tax dollars

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Tax is the governments money to spend on our country.

yes, on the country. Not on propaganda for the liberal party There is a huge difference.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Union fees belong to the worker.

no they don't. They belong to the union, once you pay your fee you have no say what happens to the money

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Union fees are part of a pool to help workers in times of need.

Union fees are used for a multitude of things. That is only ONE use for them.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Not to be spent on Bill's dirty dealings.

Thats why the AFP charged bill, right? Cheesy

They all give donations to the media muppet. Look at the ABC under Labor. I'm talking about union fees. I paid hundreds of dollars a year for 14 years into the TWU. I'd hate to think our money was going to crap like leftist radicals.

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