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Bobby.

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #105 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:20pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:51pm:

Chris Bowen said Labor was not considering death taxes... take that as you wish... after all - his lips WERE moving at the time....

I am very cynical about politicians.
I just hope that there are enough independents to block any crazy legislation in the Senate -
especially if it's going to make battlers sell the family home to pay a robbery tax.

When it doesn't happen will you apologize for doing the politicians dirty work for them and hyping up bullshit....You are no better than those you condemn???

Roll Eyes

If it doesn't happen I will apologise.

You must apologise if does happen.

bullshit. In a few years time you'll deny you ever said it. Cheesy

This thread will be here forever.

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #106 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:51pm:

Chris Bowen said Labor was not considering death taxes... take that as you wish... after all - his lips WERE moving at the time....

I am very cynical about politicians.
I just hope that there are enough independents to block any crazy legislation in the Senate -
especially if it's going to make battlers sell the family home to pay a robbery tax.

When it doesn't happen will you apologize for doing the politicians dirty work for them and hyping up bullshit....You are no better than those you condemn???

Roll Eyes

If it doesn't happen I will apologise.

You must apologise if does happen.

bullshit. In a few years time you'll deny you ever said it. Cheesy

This thread will be here forever.

but people aren't going to go back through years of threads just to prove you're a lying scumbag.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #107 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 9:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:14pm:

lee wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:23pm:

Labor has said it will not introduce death taxes...

And we trust Bill because he did his best for Cleanevent, Chiquita Mushrooms etc. /sarc

The fact the unions got more money/members and the workers lost was totally immaterial.

Bill is the one making the promises isn't he?

Poor Phil -
doesn't he realise -
communists are hiding everywhere -
in unions, in the Labor Party and
even right here on Ozpolitic.

The last Communist to stand for election in Australia 2010 received about 600 votes 0.83% of the vote.

Anybody panicking about Communists in Australia has a bit of a problem. They are very very rare, most suburbs don't have even one of them.

This is about normal everyday Australians who will have to sell the family
home to pay a new tax.
It's about the loss of property under a communist ideology.

No its about a load of BS that isn't going to happen. there isn't 0.83% Communists under your bed it is just another unfounded scare campaign.

The unions are a major force behind the Labor policy.
In many ways the Labor party are puppets of the unions.

It's true that there has been a rise in part time jobs under the Tories
which is bad.
Battlers need full time jobs.

I don't like either major party -
none stand up for what I want.
They do their own thing -
have their own ideas about what's good for us.
They never ask us for what we want unless it's poofter marriage -
no voting referendum on immigration numbers etc.
( even though they could have easily made it part of the upcoming election )
They give us the illusion of choice but really - there is no choice.

Labor have been strongly opposed to death taxes for over 50 years. Nothing has changed.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 147541 Gender:	Re: Labor wants death taxes. Reply #108 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:36pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:44pm: This is about normal everyday Australians who will have to sell the family home to pay a new tax. Why would they have to sell the family home?
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26576 Australia	Re: Labor wants death taxes. Reply #109 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:50pm theres no family home to sell since the govt took it when the old person went in a nursing facility Spot
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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #110 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 3:59pm

lee wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

I don't get it
The Australian Council of Trade Unions wants to impose death taxes on all Australians?

Trade unions?

Have they branched out ?

Is the Australian Tax Office a member of trade unions?

You do understand the ATO only implements the laws passed by parliament?

The Parliamentarians are paid by the taxpayer, i.e. you and me. It is OUR money they are wanting to piss up against the wall. Remember that.

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #111 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 4:03pm

White Dove wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 3:59pm:

lee wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

I don't get it
The Australian Council of Trade Unions wants to impose death taxes on all Australians?

Trade unions?

Have they branched out ?

Is the Australian Tax Office a member of trade unions?

You do understand the ATO only implements the laws passed by parliament?

The Parliamentarians are paid by the taxpayer, i.e. you and me. It is OUR money they are wanting to piss up against the wall. Remember that.

Pissed up against the wall - how?

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #112 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 4:03pm:

White Dove wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 3:59pm:

lee wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

I don't get it
The Australian Council of Trade Unions wants to impose death taxes on all Australians?

Trade unions?

Have they branched out ?

Is the Australian Tax Office a member of trade unions?

You do understand the ATO only implements the laws passed by parliament?

The Parliamentarians are paid by the taxpayer, i.e. you and me. It is OUR money they are wanting to piss up against the wall. Remember that.

Pissed up against the wall - how?

Depends on if it is the male or female employees ?

Easy for one but fairly difficult for the other.

May be the reason that the Liberals refuse to select female members.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 114466 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Labor wants death taxes. Reply #113 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:36pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:44pm: This is about normal everyday Australians who will have to sell the family home to pay a new tax. Why would they have to sell the family home? Read the highlighted part. Did you drop out of school when you were 12?
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89127 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Labor wants death taxes. Reply #114 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm .. and another lie has been let loose upon the land to startle a flock of sheep called the people... Labor has said they are NOT considering death taxes - that doesn't mean they will not....
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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #115 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 5:17am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

.. and another lie has been let loose upon the land to startle a flock of sheep called the people...

Labor has said they are NOT considering death taxes - that doesn't mean they will not....

Labor are shameless grave robbers.
Don't worry - I have a feeling there will be enough independents
to vote this legislation down in the Senate.
Many voters want nothing to do with the unrepresentative main parties.

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #116 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 9:17am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 5:17am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

.. and another lie has been let loose upon the land to startle a flock of sheep called the people...

Labor has said they are NOT considering death taxes - that doesn't mean they will not....

Labor are shameless grave robbers.
Don't worry - I have a feeling there will be enough independents
to vote this legislation down in the Senate.
Many voters want nothing to do with the unrepresentative main parties.

It isn't proposed legislation, Bobby - Labor has said they have no such plans. That doesn't mean they won't ... but they're only after the Fat Bastards.. which we all know is 'unfair' so it will be broadened to All Bastards...

Now - d'ye think Ah'm sex-eh?

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #117 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 9:28am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 2:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 7:44pm:

This is about normal everyday Australians who will have to sell the family
home to pay a new tax.

Why would they have to sell the family home?

Read the highlighted part.

Did you drop out of school when you were 12?

Try to focus, Gobby.

Why are they paying a new tax?

Is it because they've received something?

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #118 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 9:30am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 5:17am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

.. and another lie has been let loose upon the land to startle a flock of sheep called the people...

Labor has said they are NOT considering death taxes - that doesn't mean they will not....

Labor are shameless grave robbers.
Don't worry - I have a feeling there will be enough independents
to vote this legislation down in the Senate.
Many voters want nothing to do with the unrepresentative main parties.

What legislation?

Do you have a link to the bill?

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Re: Labor wants death taxes.
Reply #119 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 9:53am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Someone posted this on a website:

Death duties on people that have paid tax all their lives already, the definition of cruel and unusual punishment.

Not saying I agree with the proposal but what I highlighted is wrong. It's not taxes on the dead people, it's taxes on the people that inherit who are alive and well. The dead guy cannot be punished in any way shape or form, he's dead, extinct, and ex-person.

True - but still he has a point.
Tax was already paid on earnings to buy that house.
Why should it be taxed again?
It could mean that the family home will need to be sold to pay the tax.

It already is "taxed again": council rates, land tax, stamp duty, GST...

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