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Reply #75 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:12pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

There is a code of conduct on how our politicians conduct their government duties. Conflict of interest is one of the first thing that would be taught to you if you ever get a government job.

Yes petal. Now is that conflict at the pre-committee stage, the committee stage or the voting on the Bill stage?

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

You shouldnt be influenced by, for example the impact that might have on your, members of your family, or your friends, or your private interest, political motivation, or private business. It has to be in the public interest first.

Very good. Now as he hasn't voted on anything, where is the conflict of interest?

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

They are handing out liberal party enrolment forms, advertising liberal fund raise, and now people are receiving advertising material from Geoff Wilson's company.

Two things.

One- liberal party enrolments - not good.

Two - Can you provide a link to these people "receiving advertising material from Geoff Wilson's company"?

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Reply #76 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:13pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 8:44am:

that you need it written down before deciding it is wrong says a lot about the levels you will go to to excuse the corruption.

Let's see it has gone from conflict of interest even though no such conflict exists, to corruption, with no evidence pointing to that either.

So you would argue that Labor committees are impartial. That the chair doesn't have a bias one way or the other? Neither believing or disbelieving their own party's work? Grin

Apparently it makes no difference according to you....Why are you now changing your tune....Do you have a link to support any Labor bias on any committees dickhead or is this just another distraction....Otherwise you have nothing as usual???

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19688 Gender:	Re: Tim Wilson should resign ! Reply #77 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:14pm philperth2010 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:08am: Imagine if all committees were run by people who are bias and have a stake in the outcome of said committee.. Did you know everyone has biases?
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Reply #78 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:52pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Imagine if all committees were run by people who are bias and have a stake in the outcome of said committee..

Did you know everyone has biases?

Is that meant to be some kind of justification to ignore bias....This will hurt the Coalition with the majority of Australian's who care about integrity and due process....Keep up not defending Wilson you dickhead!!!

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Reply #79 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:59pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

Let's see it has gone from conflict of interest even though no such conflict exists, to corruption, with no evidence pointing to that either.

semantics

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

So you would argue that Labor committees are impartial. That the chair doesn't have a bias one way or the other? Neither believing or disbelieving their own party's work? Grin Grin Grin Grin

got a quote of me ever saying any of that?

now that you've (hopefully) finished with your red herrings, how about you deal with the actual topic?

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Reply #80 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 1:22pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:59pm:

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

Let's see it has gone from conflict of interest even though no such conflict exists, to corruption, with no evidence pointing to that either.

semantics

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

So you would argue that Labor committees are impartial. That the chair doesn't have a bias one way or the other? Neither believing or disbelieving their own party's work? Grin Grin Grin Grin

got a quote of me ever saying any of that?

now that you've (hopefully) finished with your red herrings, how about you deal with the actual topic?

Good luck with that ...

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78145 Gender:	Re: Tim Wilson should resign ! Reply #81 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 1:23pm Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 1:22pm: Good luck with that ... It was a rhetorical question ...everyone knows he'll never just deal with the topic.
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Reply #82 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 1:58pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:52pm:

Is that meant to be some kind of justification to ignore bias.

No petal. It is just that people with biases, everyone, cannot then claim to be impartial.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:52pm:

Keep up not defending Wilson you dickhead!!!

Sorry I haven't done that either. I am merely pointing out the flaws in your "argument". Wink

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Reply #83 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 2:00pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:59pm:

lee wrote Today at 9:59am:
Let's see it has gone from conflict of interest even though no such conflict exists, to corruption, with no evidence pointing to that either.

semantics

Sorry, That's what I thought the thread was about. So you have no evidence but it is still corruption. Grin

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 8:44am:

lee wrote on Feb 8^th, 2019 at 9:56pm:

Please point me to where a chairman has to be impartial.

that you need it written down before deciding it is wrong says a lot about the levels you will go to to excuse the corruption. What ever happened to using your common sense?

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:59pm:

lee wrote Today at 9:59am:
So you would argue that Labor committees are impartial. That the chair doesn't have a bias one way or the other? Neither believing or disbelieving their own party's work? Grin Grin Grin Grin

got a quote of me ever saying any of that?

So you admit Labor are not impartial but the Coalition should be so. Grin

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19688 Gender:	Re: Tim Wilson should resign ! Reply #84 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 2:09pm Bam wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 1:22pm: Good luck with that ... poor Bammy struggling to become relevant.
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Reply #85 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

Sorry, That's what I thought the thread was about. So you have no evidence but it is still corruption. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I am of the opinion that he knowingly continuing despite knowing he has a clear conflict of interest is corrupt. Like I said, you can argue the semantics all you like, it won't change a thing.

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

So you admit Labor are not impartial but the Coalition should be so.

threads not about labor, it's about Tim Wilson. And by the way, I've said many times that ALL politicians are corrupt. Now, do you want to deal with the actual topic or do you want to keep flapping about ?

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 2:09pm:

poor Bammy struggling to become relevant.

nope, he was spot on in his assessment.

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Reply #86 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 6:40pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

I am of the opinion that he knowingly continuing despite knowing he has a clear conflict of interest is corrupt. Like I said, you can argue the semantics all you like, it won't change a thing.

yes petal. Now we get to the nub of the thing. It is purely your opinion. There is nothing other than that. Thanks. Wink

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

lee wrote Today at 12:00pm:
So you admit Labor are not impartial but the Coalition should be so.

threads not about labor, it's about Tim Wilson. And by the way, I've said many times that ALL politicians are corrupt. Now, do you want to deal with the actual topic or do you want to keep flapping about ?

On that we agree. But all your posts have exclusively been on Wilson. But no regard to Labor being corrupt. So you only want one resignation. Now that is biased. Wink

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Reply #87 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 7:12pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Imagine if all committees were run by people who are bias and have a stake in the outcome of said committee..

Did you know everyone has biases?

Almost all government committees are run by a government representative and are always biased towards the governments view politics is not an ideal or honest world.

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Reply #88 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 7:57pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

yes petal. Now we get to the nub of the thing. It is purely your opinion. There is nothing other than that. Thanks. Wink

were you under some sort of understanding that I was giving your opinion? Cheesy

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

On that we agree. But all your posts have exclusively been on Wilson. But no regard to Labor being corrupt. So you only want one resignation. Now that is biased. Wink

Perhaps you should read the title of the thread before commenting?

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Reply #89 - Feb 9^th, 2019 at 8:06pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Imagine if all committees were run by people who are bias and have a stake in the outcome of said committee..

Did you know everyone has biases?

Almost all government committees are run by a government representative and are always biased towards the governments view politics is not an ideal or honest world.

This Wilson affair is a whole new level of abuse.

When Labor wins the election and they get the National Integrity Commission up and running, Wilson will be one of the first to be investigated.

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