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Re: Tim Wilson should resign !
Reply #60 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:15pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 6:58pm:
stunspore wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
I'm glad coalition supporters can't see what's wrong.  It only forces the swinging voters to see how far from reality and decency on that political side. 


The depths of the political ineptitude of this government is trully breathtaking.

So you want Bill, then????


Really?

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Reply #61 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:16pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 1:29pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee..


So please tell us where this conflict of interest arises.


Wilson has shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy....Dickhead???

Self interest and conflict aside why should taxpayers fork out for an inquiry into a policy that may never happen....Labor haven't won the election yet???

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Re: Tim Wilson should resign !
Reply #62 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:17pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
Wilson has shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy..



Yes and according to tickleandrose it is not up for debate. In which case there is no conflict UNTIL such time as it is up for debate.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
Self interest and conflict aside why should taxpayers fork out for an inquiry into a policy that may never happen....Labor haven't won the election yet???



But all you luvives are so certain they will. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #63 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:23pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:17pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
Wilson has shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy..



Yes and according to tickleandrose it is not up for debate. In which case there is no conflict UNTIL such time as it is up for debate.

WTF is that supposed to mean....You use a quote from another poster to justify a clear conflict and fail as usual....Wilson owns shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy....Your deflection is pathetic mate!!!

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
Self interest and conflict aside why should taxpayers fork out for an inquiry into a policy that may never happen....Labor haven't won the election yet???



But all you luvives are so certain they will. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Another deflection from the actual context of my comment....You are a dickhead mate!!!

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Reply #64 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:33pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
WTF is that supposed to mean....You use a quote from another poster to justify a clear conflict and fail as usual....Wilson owns shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy..



Yes. And IF Labor win government his will be a minority voice. And he can't be in conflict UNTIL it comes to a vote. Unless of course you can show where I am wrong.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Another deflection from the actual context of my comment..



lets see -

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
philperth2010 wrote Yesterday at 3:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee..


You haven't detailed where he is currently in conflict. Perhaps you should do so.

It is a committee. It calls for submissions from interested parties, even Labor, who may or may not hold shares in super funds etc. It makes proposals. Sometimes they even hand down differing proposals on party lines. Then it goes to parliament. That is where any conflict could be derived. Unless again you can show different.
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Reply #65 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 8:27pm
 
https://theconversation.com/tim-wilsons-retirement-tax-website-doesnt-have-a-pri...

What's happening to all the privacy details collected?  And why do people get unsolicited emails after a robocall?
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Reply #66 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 8:37pm
 
So why is it Switzer and not Wilson Asset Management the firm linked to?
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Reply #67 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 8:41pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:33pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
WTF is that supposed to mean....You use a quote from another poster to justify a clear conflict and fail as usual....Wilson owns shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy..



Yes. And IF Labor win government his will be a minority voice. And he can't be in conflict UNTIL it comes to a vote. Unless of course you can show where I am wrong.

Wilson owns shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy and he is chairing a committee looking into this policy....He benefits directly by influencing voters leading into an election and he is in conflict because he is not an impartial chairperson!!!

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Another deflection from the actual context of my comment..


philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
philperth2010 wrote Yesterday at 3:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee..


You haven't detailed where he is currently in conflict. Perhaps you should do so.

You are a dickhead!!!

See above!!!

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Reply #68 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 9:56pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 8:41pm:
Wilson owns shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy and he is chairing a committee looking into this policy...


And there is no vote. Show me where there is a conflict of interest where there is no vote.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 8:41pm:
He benefits directly by influencing voters leading into an election and he is in conflict because he is not an impartial chairperson!!!


Please point me to where a chairman has to be impartial.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/Powers_practice...

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/Sena...

No mention of conflict or impartial.

That is a future possible conflict of interest. Where is the CURRENT conflict of interest?

You are just making this up as you go along; aren't you?

Oh dear poor phil can't enunciate his argument therefore I am wrong. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



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Reply #69 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 4:56am
 
Another thing in need of rectification......
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Reply #70 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 8:44am
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 9:56pm:
Please point me to where a chairman has to be impartial.



that you need it written down before deciding it is wrong says a lot about the levels you will go to to excuse the corruption. What ever happened to using your common sense?
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Reply #71 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 10:32am
 
No so sure about all of this, looks like the Libs have done some wrong but not sure it is a big deal.

The relationship is that distant that it is irrelevant IMO.

Encouraging people to attend in my view is not improper.

Handing out liberal party membership forms in this arena is a no no. Disgraceful thing to do.

Opposing Labor's biggest error is a clever move.
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Reply #72 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 11:05am
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 9:56pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 8:41pm:
Wilson owns shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy and he is chairing a committee looking into this policy...


And there is no vote. Show me where there is a conflict of interest where there is no vote.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 8:41pm:
He benefits directly by influencing voters leading into an election and he is in conflict because he is not an impartial chairperson!!!


Please point me to where a chairman has to be impartial.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/Powers_practice...

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/Sena...

No mention of conflict or impartial.

That is a future possible conflict of interest. Where is the CURRENT conflict of interest?

You are just making this up as you go along; aren't you?

Oh dear poor phil can't enunciate his argument therefore I am wrong. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



There is a code of conduct on how our politicians conduct their government duties.  Conflict of interest is one of the first thing that would be taught to you if you ever get a government job.  And the principal is simple.  When you are making a decision at work or conduct government business, you should only be influenced in that decision or task by factors that are genuinely relevant to it.  You shouldnt be influenced by, for example the impact that might have on your, members of your family, or your friends, or your private interest, political motivation, or private business.  It has to be in the public interest first. 

The behavior of the liberal party in those committees are as clear as daylight.  They are handing out liberal party enrolment forms, advertising liberal fund raise, and now people are receiving advertising material from Geoff Wilson's company.  All of this, puts in doubt, Tim Wilson's motive being that of his own private, political and financial interest.  And if the liberal take their job seriously, then he should be stood down immediately, and put in someone who does not have the same complications.
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Reply #73 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 11:08am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 8:44am:
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 9:56pm:
Please point me to where a chairman has to be impartial.



that you need it written down before deciding it is wrong says a lot about the levels you will go to to excuse the corruption. What ever happened to using your common sense?


Imagine if all committees were run by people who are bias and have a stake in the outcome of said committee....Why not let the banks hold their own inquiry and clear themselves of any wrong doing....Some people have no moral integrity what so ever and they call the ABC bias???

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Reply #74 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 11:59am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 8:44am:
that you need it written down before deciding it is wrong says a lot about the levels you will go to to excuse the corruption.



Let's see it has gone from conflict  of interest even though no such conflict exists, to corruption, with no evidence pointing to that either.

So you would argue that Labor committees are impartial. That the chair doesn't have a bias one way or the other? Neither believing or disbelieving their own party's work? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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