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Reply #45 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 2:47pm
 
1. First the purpose of the inquiry is about scrutinize a possible future labor policy.  Labor is not in government.  And the inquiry have already cost the tax payers 160K.  It is as clear as daylight that this is a liberal party political exercise.  I mean, they are even offering $25 a head to wine and dine with aspiring liberal candidates and handing out party application forms.  This is highly inappropriate.  The liberal parties is more than welcome to fund their own political rallies and inquiries, but NOT at tax payer's expense.   Another example of sheer arrogance and utter disrespect for hard earned tax payer dollars.

2. The subject of the inquiry is about frank credits.  Tim Wilson is the chair of the inquiry.  He has shares in a company that his so called distance relative Geoff Wilson owns, who directly benefit from the current policy.   And make no mistake, Geoff is not just a 'long distance' relative.  They are on first name basis, and they communicate through email, and they even planned one of the committee meetings near Geoff's AGM, so that 'they can make a scene'.   

And do you know who is laughing all the way to the bank?  Geoff Wilson.  After blabbing about people is going to lose out upto $30000 a year, he went to to rant that the policy is easy to circum-navigate.  Just change the structure of your investments.   This is just a balant self advertisement for his own company through using a tax payer funded inquiry to gain publicity.

Another shameful behavior from members of liberal party. 
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Reply #46 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 4:02pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 2:47pm:
It is as clear as daylight that this is a liberal party political exercise.



So the coalition should not have informed opinion on the subject. OK.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 2:47pm:
The subject of the inquiry is about frank credits.  Tim Wilson is the chair of the inquiry.  He has shares in a company that his so called distance relative Geoff Wilson owns, who directly benefit from the current policy.   And make no mistake, Geoff is not just a 'long distance' relative.  They are on first name basis, and they communicate through email, and they even planned one of the committee meetings near Geoff's AGM, so that 'they can make a scene'.   



yes. Many others have shares in all manner of things. Super fund controllers etc. So they should not have an informed opinion either?

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 2:47pm:
And do you know who is laughing all the way to the bank?  Geoff Wilson.  After blabbing about people is going to lose out upto $30000 a year, he went to to rant that the policy is easy to circum-navigate.  Just change the structure of your investments.   This is just a balant self advertisement for his own company through using a tax payer funded inquiry to gain publicity.


And so other commentators who have made similar pronouncements are free to do so because they have no relative in parliament?

Perhaps you should do a google search.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 2:47pm:
This is just a balant self advertisement for his own company through using a tax payer funded inquiry to gain publicity.



Um wasn't the furore created by Labor, when they broadcast the relationship? Talk about Labor doing his advertising for him. Wink
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Reply #47 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:40pm
 
What "informed opinion"? Are you serious?  In the latest meeting on Friday, one man was forcibly removed by fellow attendees at the beginning of the hearing.  Over 2 hours of 3 minute speeches, only one person spoke in favour of labor's poicy.  No witnesses have been formally listed for any of the meetings since the last one in Dee Why in November. 
And even Mr Thistlethwaite, the comittee's deputy chair, said the inquiry was "an outrageous abuse of the Parliament's committee process".

"Liberal MPs are using taxpayer dollars to run around the country encouraging people to do their part and undermine Labor policy," he said.

This is balant use of tax payer's money for liberal party fund raising, and political gains.  Like I said, the liberal party is more than welcome to organize their own rally, their own fund raising, their own inquiries, but NOT on tax payer's expense.
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Reply #48 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:42pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 2:47pm:
It is as clear as daylight that this is a liberal party political exercise.

So the coalition should not have informed opinion on the subject. OK.

Not as a part of a parliamentary inquiry, not if the taxpayers are paying for it, and not if it's being done for personal gain.

It is a flagrant abuse of parliamentary procedures. Surely you can see that.
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Reply #49 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:44pm
 
Bam wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
It is a flagrant abuse of parliamentary procedures. Surely you can see that.



Yes. Was it a conflict of interest? Wink
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Reply #50 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:44pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:40pm:
What "informed opinion"? Are you serious?  In the latest meeting on Friday, one man was forcibly removed by fellow attendees at the beginning of the hearing.  Over 2 hours of 3 minute speeches, only one person spoke in favour of labor's poicy.  No witnesses have been formally listed for any of the meetings since the last one in Dee Why in November. 
And even Mr Thistlethwaite, the comittee's deputy chair, said the inquiry was "an outrageous abuse of the Parliament's committee process".

"Liberal MPs are using taxpayer dollars to run around the country encouraging people to do their part and undermine Labor policy," he said.

This is balant use of tax payer's money for liberal party fund raising, and political gains.  Like I said, the liberal party is more than welcome to organize their own rally, their own fund raising, their own inquiries, but NOT on tax payer's expense. 

They have clearly not learned the lessons of Bronny's helicopter misuse.
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Reply #51 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:47pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
Bam wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
It is a flagrant abuse of parliamentary procedures. Surely you can see that.



Yes. Was it a conflict of interest? Wink

Yes it is, which you should already know.

Hint: Follow the money.
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Reply #52 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:48pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
Bam wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
It is a flagrant abuse of parliamentary procedures. Surely you can see that.



Yes. Was it a conflict of interest? Wink


It is a conflict of interest as the policy is not even up for debate at the parliament.  The liberal is using tax payer's money to fly around for their political gain. 

It is also a conflict of interest that the chair of the committee, the company that he owned part of, and his relative stood to benefit from the demise of the policy.
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Reply #53 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:53pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:40pm:
In the latest meeting on Friday, one man was forcibly removed by fellow attendees at the beginning of the hearing. 



Heaven forbid that people should be forcibly removed for something. What was it for? Abuse? No we should let people disrupt meetings with no recourse. Grin Grin Grin

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:40pm:
No witnesses have been formally listed for any of the meetings since the last one in Dee Why in November. 



So no witnesses were paid? That's supposed to be a good thing.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:40pm:
And even Mr Thistlethwaite, the comittee's deputy chair, said the inquiry was "an outrageous abuse of the Parliament's committee process".




That would be the Labor member for Kingsford Smith? Not biased by any chance?

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:40pm:
Like I said, the liberal party is more than welcome to organize their own rally, their own fund raising, their own inquiries, but NOT on tax payer's expense.



But that wasn't all you said was it? Do you recant the rest?
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Reply #54 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:53pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:48pm:
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
Bam wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
It is a flagrant abuse of parliamentary procedures. Surely you can see that.



Yes. Was it a conflict of interest? Wink


It is a conflict of interest as the policy is not even up for debate at the parliament.  The liberal is using tax payer's money to fly around for their political gain. 

It is also a conflict of interest that the chair of the committee, the company that he owned part of, and his relative stood to benefit from the demise of the policy. 

It's a conflict of interest because T.Wilson is making money out of this through his shareholdings in G.Wilson's company. And some still wonder why the Liberals are scared shtless of any federal anti-corruption commission with retrospective powers.

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Reply #55 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:59pm
 
Bam wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:53pm:
It's a conflict of interest because T.Wilson is making money out of this through his shareholdings in G.Wilson's company.



Is he making more money, the same money, or less?

Or is it just your perception that he is making more money?

Bam wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
Not as a part of a parliamentary inquiry, not if the taxpayers are paying for it, and not if it's being done for personal gain.


Can you actually show where he made a personal gain?
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Reply #56 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 6:05pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:48pm:
It is a conflict of interest as the policy is not even up for debate at the parliament.



If it is not up for debate how can it be a conflict of interest? That could only occur when it is up for debate.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 5:48pm:
It is also a conflict of interest that the chair of the committee, the company that he owned part of, and his relative stood to benefit from the demise of the policy.



But Billy has said he will not back down. Therefore there is no demise of policy.
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Reply #57 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 6:47pm
 
I'm glad coalition supporters can't see what's wrong.  It only forces the swinging voters to see how far from reality and decency on that political side.
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Reply #58 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 6:58pm
 
stunspore wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
I'm glad coalition supporters can't see what's wrong.  It only forces the swinging voters to see how far from reality and decency on that political side. 


The depths of the political ineptitude of this government is trully breathtaking.
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Reply #59 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 7:07pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 1:29pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee..


So please tell us where this conflict of interest arises.


Wilson has shares in a company that will be directly affected by Labor's policy....Dickhead???

Self interest and conflict aside why should taxpayers fork out for an inquiry into a policy that may never happen....Labor haven't won the election yet???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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