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Re: Tim Wilson should resign !
Reply #30 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:16pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
Parliamentary committees are meant to examine the impact of government legislation, not seek feedback on opposition policies, which is what Wilson did.



"When Parliament establishes a committee of inquiry, it decides on the terms of reference – that is, the specific purpose of the inquiry. The committee advertises in newspapers and invites written submissions from the community, experts and interest groups regarding the issue."

Are you saying a distant relative can't make a submission?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
And, he's a shareholder in the company that is leading the push to undermine the franking credits policy.



I suggest you check again. Wilson Asset Management is NOT on his PCR.




"According to the parliamentary register of interests, on 10 May 2017 the Liberal MP updated his register to list shareholding in Wilson Asset Management through Wilson-Bolger Superannuation Pty Ltd."

He has to go.

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Re: Tim Wilson should resign !
Reply #31 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:17pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
Parliamentary committees are meant to examine the impact of government legislation, not seek feedback on opposition policies, which is what Wilson did.



"When Parliament establishes a committee of inquiry, it decides on the terms of reference – that is, the specific purpose of the inquiry. The committee advertises in newspapers and invites written submissions from the community, experts and interest groups regarding the issue."

Are you saying a distant relative can't make a submission?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
And, he's a shareholder in the company that is leading the push to undermine the franking credits policy.



I suggest you check again. Wilson Asset Management is NOT on his PCR.

Read all the linked articles. It's in there, multiple times. Here's one.

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The Liberal MP is a distant relative of the fund manager, and a shareholder in his business. According to the parliamentary register of interests, on 10 May 2017 the Liberal MP updated his register to list shareholding in Wilson Asset Management through Wilson-Bolger Superannuation Pty Ltd.


If you want more, stop being a lazy fkk and read the links provided.
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Reply #32 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:18pm
 
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Reply #33 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:32pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:16pm:
lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
Parliamentary committees are meant to examine the impact of government legislation, not seek feedback on opposition policies, which is what Wilson did.



"When Parliament establishes a committee of inquiry, it decides on the terms of reference – that is, the specific purpose of the inquiry. The committee advertises in newspapers and invites written submissions from the community, experts and interest groups regarding the issue."

Are you saying a distant relative can't make a submission?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
And, he's a shareholder in the company that is leading the push to undermine the franking credits policy.



I suggest you check again. Wilson Asset Management is NOT on his PCR.




"According to the parliamentary register of interests, on 10 May 2017 the Liberal MP updated his register to list shareholding in Wilson Asset Management through Wilson-Bolger Superannuation Pty Ltd."

He has to go.

He should take a look at what happened in the state seat of Brighton at the state election, a seat within his Division of Goldstein. An 18-year-old Labor candidate, campaigning on a tiny budget, nearly unseated the Liberal member and was leading the count on election night before losing by 865 votes with an 8.7% swing. Final margin, 1.12%. This is a seat that has existed since 1856 and has never been held by Labor.

Sandringham, same story. Almost taken by Labor, margin reduced to 0.7% with a 6.7% swing. Caulfield, margin reduced to 0.2%. Bentleigh was held by the Labor candidate with an 11.3% swing.

The last thing a Federal member in this area should be doing is engaging in dubious conduct that would tip him out. Goldstein has a 12.7% margin but that could disappear very quickly if an MP is engaging in misconduct.
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Reply #34 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 3:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:18pm:
See for yourself:

https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/03%20Senators%20and%20Members/32%20Members/Regist...



OK fair enough. You didn't answer the question as to whether a relative can make a submission to a Parliamentary Committee. Wink
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Reply #35 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 4:20pm
 
So fishy.
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Reply #36 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:16pm:
lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
Parliamentary committees are meant to examine the impact of government legislation, not seek feedback on opposition policies, which is what Wilson did.



"When Parliament establishes a committee of inquiry, it decides on the terms of reference – that is, the specific purpose of the inquiry. The committee advertises in newspapers and invites written submissions from the community, experts and interest groups regarding the issue."

Are you saying a distant relative can't make a submission?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
And, he's a shareholder in the company that is leading the push to undermine the franking credits policy.



I suggest you check again. Wilson Asset Management is NOT on his PCR.




"According to the parliamentary register of interests, on 10 May 2017 the Liberal MP updated his register to list shareholding in Wilson Asset Management through Wilson-Bolger Superannuation Pty Ltd."

He has to go.



I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee....He should get the short shift but the PM is as weak as piss....These ass holes have no moral integrity what so ever???

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Reply #37 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 6:09pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee....He should get the short shift but the PM is as weak as piss....These ass holes have no moral integrity what so ever???

Abbott was a bad leader. Turnbull was a weak leader. Morrison is bad and weak.

Compare this to Howard. If a Minister did something wrong he was not afraid to sack them. He had to sack seven in his first term but this sent a clear message that he wasn't going to tolerate poor performance.

Morrison should sack Wilson but he won't. Morrison is too weak.
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Reply #38 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 8:47pm
 
Bam wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 6:09pm:
Abbott was a bad leader. Turnbull was a weak leader. Morrison is bad and weak.


Nailed it.

Absolutely nailed it.

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Reply #39 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 9:27pm
 
If morrison sacked Wilson, he might cross the floor and become a crossbencher.  Can't afford that.  Must cling on every lib/national he can.
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Reply #40 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 11:52am
 
Bam wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 6:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee....He should get the short shift but the PM is as weak as piss....These ass holes have no moral integrity what so ever???

Abbott was a bad leader. Turnbull was a weak leader. Morrison is bad and weak.

Compare this to Howard. If a Minister did something wrong he was not afraid to sack them. He had to sack seven in his first term but this sent a clear message that he wasn't going to tolerate poor performance.

Morrison should sack Wilson but he won't. Morrison is too weak.


The libs are hoping to stake much, if not most of their entire election campaign on this franking credits malarkey. They think they can frame it as a 'retirement tax', as if its some wholesale attack on all old people. This sham inquiry is clearly the vanguard to this scare campaign, and therefore it would be very damaging for Morrison indeed if he were to completely derail it by sacking Wilson from the committee - which would in effect be an admission that its a complete sham. So he must stand by the inquiry, which is part and parcel with standing by freedom boy. 

What it actually is is the government shooting themselves in the foot twice - first by having to continue this sham inquiry, which the more they do so exposes itself more and more as a sham, and secondly, stick by the person fronting the sham inquiry, who just makes himself a bigger and bigger target as someone who is compromised.

So instead of rousing a grassroots reaction against Labor's franking credits policy, they have pretty much ensured that continuing the inquiry will just make it all about a) a demonstration of libs abusing process and b) Tim Wilson with conflicts of interest.
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Reply #41 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 12:51pm
 
love tims work
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Reply #42 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 12:58pm
 
Bam wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 6:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee....He should get the short shift but the PM is as weak as piss....These ass holes have no moral integrity what so ever???

Abbott was a bad leader. Turnbull was a weak leader. Morrison is bad and weak.

Compare this to Howard. If a Minister did something wrong he was not afraid to sack them. He had to sack seven in his first term but this sent a clear message that he wasn't going to tolerate poor performance.

Morrison should sack Wilson but he won't. Morrison is too weak.


And then proceeded to change the ministerial responsibility & never sacked another.
Reith & many others should have gone, but apparently ministers are no longer held accountable for their portfolios.
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Reply #43 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 1:01pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 8th, 2019 at 12:58pm:
Bam wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 6:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee....He should get the short shift but the PM is as weak as piss....These ass holes have no moral integrity what so ever???

Abbott was a bad leader. Turnbull was a weak leader. Morrison is bad and weak.

Compare this to Howard. If a Minister did something wrong he was not afraid to sack them. He had to sack seven in his first term but this sent a clear message that he wasn't going to tolerate poor performance.

Morrison should sack Wilson but he won't. Morrison is too weak.


And then proceeded to change the ministerial responsibility & never sacked another.
Reith & many others should have gone, but apparently ministers are no longer held accountable for their portfolios.


always loved Johns work
top bloke
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Re: Tim Wilson should resign !
Reply #44 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 1:29pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
I cannot believe Wilson could be so obviously in conflict and not stand down from the committee..



So let's see-
it was a Parliamentary Committee.
Parliamentary Committees ask for submissions.
These submissions are open for anyone to make.
You can ask your wife, brother, husband etc whether they wish to make a submission, because they are not debarred by statute, rule or convention.

However you can not ask a distant relative in whose business you own shares because....?

So let's look at the Australan Law Library and see what that says -

" The  Senate  has published  a document entitled  How to make a submission to a Senate Committee inquid which indicates that parliamentary privilege only applies  after the  relevant committee has formally accepted the submission. The equivalent House of Representatives document, Preparing a submission to a Parliamentary Committee inquiry does not explicitly make this  point, though it does indicate that a committee has a discretion to decide whether or not to accept a submission. The point of  this mechanism is to allow  a  committee  to  decline  to  clothe  with  parliamentary  privilege  a submission that contains, for example, scurrilous or defamatory material, or because it contains material that is not relevant to the particular inquiry. "


http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/AIAdminLawF/2004/16.pdf

So please tell us where this conflict of interest arises.
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