I personally think whats happened in the Murray darling is an absolute disgrace and badly needs some serious attention.

Whilst I accept a large portion of the issues  are due to the drought more needs doing especially after the 4 Corners water theft exposure

I think the massive fish kills are way more than normal and it is not good enough that some towns are having dirty brown water as their water supply because of this.

I think it should be controlled by one authority not a dogs breakfast with all the states and commonwealth involved as it appears now.

Serious thought should even be given to limiting high irrigation crops such as cotton

I am not sure if this is correct but any pump fed open canals feeding off  the rivers should be replaced by piping

I will be interested to see what comes out of this SA RC but already NSW govt are poo hooing their findings

What are your thoughts?

what gets me iks the WASTE we see all the time in this country  look at Qlg once again under FLOOD>...

it is NORMAL IN QLD...every time its treated like its a plague  when in fact it is a god send...

we are mad  we allow small noise little arse like the Greens to terrify us into digging the smallest hole...

and then when something BIG like this happens  the smart arses sit back and point their ugly fingers...

it makes me so angry....the tree sitters and frog counters....need to take a good look aty themselves and realise the trees and frogs and our rivers  all need WATER.. that right now is going to waste    and being cursed..

sorry red  this is sad... yet all we do is the blame game...where are all these experts from around the world  we havent got this right  and we are still floundering....bring in the world experts... dont care what it cost...

we havent got the expertise..and we have to many EMPIRE BUILDERS....

Farmer must pump his 'quota' of water all over his property, regardless if he needs it or not. Because if he uses less, his 'quota' for next term will be reduced.
So you have a list of Farmers all along the Murray-Darling, making sure they use their 'full' quota of water up. The system is being drained at full capacity always, every term, every year.
That's why the South Australians are bordering on violence when the subject of their 'trickle' comes to discussion.
Word of advice: DO NOT bring up the issue of Water Irrigation in a South Australian Pub. 


This is a Topic I brought up in the Forum many many years ago.

Having also been given a private personal tour of the Riverina Irrigation set up by the Chairman of Irrigation out there.
There is no other way - but to introduce a sophisticated 'network' of WATERWAYS to retain, conserve, preserve, attain and transfer Water around the interior of Australia.

It's time to 'create' the mythical from a mirage to a miracle!

Example: It rains heavily around the Coffs Harbour Region often - and instead of 20 metres of fresh rain water flowing out to sea, it is captured by the towns, and rural waterways and 'transported' inland via Canals and Pipes.

I've sat down at the Table with Sydney Water long ago.
They all shake their heads at the Sydney system that allows Megalitres of Storm Water to waste out at sea.

Even the Monsoonal Northern Territory has room to maneuver its wet season to other parts of the continent via Pipe and Canal.

The South Americans used mini-Canal systems to irrigate their massive (drug) Crops (made them very paranoid of raven haired men with pale skin and very shiny silvery armour).

Romans transported Water via Aquaducts.

Basically, the POLITICIANS can only do so much.
Well, they only take a political avenue of enterprise.

Australia is so lazy.
It does nothing to help itself.
Cries poor downtrodden convict all the time for another hand-out.

It's about time, Australia takes 'PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY' and supports itself.
Construction of a continental system of intricate and at times, massive - network of irrigation Canals and Containment Lakes will not only improve the Australian interior water situation, but it will also 'moisturise' the inland (via evaporation during the day) as 'dew' during the nights.

Before you know it - the interior of Australia will be as productive as the Nile Delta (and a few other such things around the world in 'deserts').

Stop fart arsing around with Political answers.
Politics is not an answer for everything.
If you seek a Political Answer for this, beyond just a stamp of approval.
All you will get is more 'paperwork', less water.

Before 1788. The Inland waterways of Australia were all 'crystal clear' freshwater.
Allowing farmers to have stock 'trample' the edges of all these waterways have destroyed the natural 'nurseries' of all the native fish... resulting in artificial 'Hatcheries' (like at Nerrandera) to put fish back into the waterways.



(Meerkat: "Simples"  )

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 11:48am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 12:16pm:

What do you think of that mad fellow known as Monk over in that PA Forum full of rejects?
Do you think he is nothing but an alcoholic like Aussie?
You know - the type that just drinks more than he needs 

Jasin wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 12:03pm:




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keep that for somewhere else.


this thread is about an extremely important topic...


I MEAN IT..





IF YOU WANT TO PLAY SPOT THE SOCK GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND DO IT..

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:03pm:

worth looking into, I remember reading in the desert in Arabia they r using solar to desalinate water and using solar panels along the joining pipeline to pump the water to towns
good idea

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:08pm:



why do we grow cotton here ?? we no longer manufacture it or weave fabric..at least RICE is food.

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:12pm:


True, and given the vast amount of water up north ... why not grow the stuff up there? 

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:13pm:



the trouble with ewater in this country it comes and goes even in the NT where it seems to rain all the time....although why not grow it in the NT come to think of it.??..

I dont know I dont profess to know anything about our water system  all I know is  what we are doing right now at this very moment had been going on for years all they a re doing is moving the fence posts..

and kidding us they have fixed it....and NO THEY HAVENT THEY HAVE MADE IS WORSE>.

we cant keep letting these morons do this...

look at Tim Flannery  no credentials at all..

they may as well bring in bloody bird watchers....

then they piss off with all the money they can get   and turn their back on us...

As long as politics stands in the way nothing will get done.

Red and blue, lab and lib both hopeless as each other.

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 11:17am:


Wow, Cods.  You're on fire !





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I like it 

PZ547 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 2:03pm:



THANK YOU      I DONT GET TOO MANY COMPLIMENTS I TRUST YOU MEAN THAT AND NOT TAKING THE MICKEY AS THEY SAY..


i get sick of the buck passing to win a point.. that doesnt solve something as chronic as this..

and it is  we have all these Premiers.. EMPIRE BUILDERS  where its all about them winning votes in  their own back yards..

its pathetic... a bit like having a horse with several heads.....

you wouldnt bother would you?...get rid of them all tell them to go and worry about whos got the best coffee machine or office chair...

leave this to people who actually know what they are doing....and will do it because its important not because it will WIN VOTES..

where are all our greeny chums   they should of course be hiding in shame   

after all what did they do to stop any of this??????..

and no it didnt happen in the last 2 or 3 years...States have been doing their sneaky acts for a long time...


where is the majority of that storm water in Qld going right now??  down the storm water drains...but not into any river system...that may have some value..

bunch of ning nongs..


when was the last time you heard of any minister in charge of WATER or Rivers  being sacked???

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:03pm:


Oh I'm sure Mr Efron could tunnel through much of the steep inclines/gradients to pipe excess water through and the 'energy cost' would be recovered in the productivity of the water being put to use out there.

...meanwhile, they are still trying to 'sneak' Tunnels for the Cities because of over-population in them causing excessive traffic. Imagine if the entire 'Outback' of Australia opened up as a jobs boom in agriculture! No more over-crowded coastal cities.

Well said Cods   

Not sure about the bird watchers though.  Are there any birds left?

Having said that, it's probably exactly who they would bring in as 'experts'.

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 11:11am:




There is no shortage of water in Australia -
the water that falls in the tropics mostly gets washed out to sea.
We need a giant North South pipeline to bring the water South.
The pipe needs to be large & made of stainless steel so it will last forever.

How much water is wasted in the tropics?
Is it 10 Sydney harbors full every year?

Jasin wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 7:42pm:



So how many more times the overall rainfall in Australia would that be? And what would they know about water, or lack thereof, in Australia?

Bobby. wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 6:27pm:



HAS ANYONE SEEN THE NEWS OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS   QLD IS FLOODED.... LIKE IT SEEMS TO BE EVERY FREAKING YEAR.....

the murray starts in QLd..... this is how crazy they are in Qld...

they grow wheat in places where it hasnt rained in 7years..... they are busy hoping this flood rain will get to those farms......

it makes sense to the good people of Qld...

their dams are over flowing and adding to the flooding     who would have thought that would happen..






the lunatics are definitely in charge up there..


dont forget this isnt the first time.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 8:12am:



because Qld is well known for flooding for years and years and years......and even more years....and the water goes down the drain to the ocean year after year after year... now its mud and  a lot of nutrients are also being washed away...not into dams... or even streams  because there are still parts up there parched.....all I know is if I worked my guts out just to watch crops and cattle die from lack of water    and had to watch that news every night......I think I would blow my brains out.....

reality is cruel  mother nature is cruel.....we were given the tools OUR BRAIN CELLS....to help us make a go of it......instead we whinge and complain and have ROYALS COMM into it then play pass the buck....

maybe that works for you!

ok dippy I will leave it with you

you seem to have the answers..

having an expensive ROYAL should also help.

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 11:26am:


That would probably be the best result imo!

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 11:29am:

if it stops buck passing and gets a solution be great..... (no one seems convinced )

cods wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 6:58am:

when these places have their massive floods... what usually every 30 years nothing stops the water..... How big would a pipeline have to be to stop flooding in one of these events ?
I dont think we r advanced enough to be able to harness these massive floods. they r just 2 big for us as humans to make a diferance.

cods wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 8:08am:

river systems, underground and desalination plants ( 1 in Saudi Arabia producing 320 times more per day than was released at the Ross river dam inTownsville the other day u mentioned in another post)

1)We need to develop my ultra efficient solar desalination invention.
2) We wait for it to rain.
3)Try and grow something on the Ord (near impossible)
4) We stop growing food and import it all from China.

cods wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

what pioneers would that be Cods... They did the same thing every invader did from Europe... they tried to make it England, totally ignore the native ppl that had survived for thousands of years here.
They worked against the land instead of with it and we now r reaping those times with a dead Murry River.....

cods wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 9:53am:

Credit for what cods ? 
What did the pioneers of this country do to make this a sustainable place.. what foresight did they have to make sure things like the Murry , erosion, ferral animals, soil degration, land poisoning happen..... Yes they where pioneers but I don't think they did more than survive (little on think of the future) and fought nature every step of the way to make a mark.

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 11:17am:


What a stupid comment.
did you ever ask the people whose houses were flooded how much of a god send it was?

Bradfield sounds like a man with a vision for the future.

no place for a man like that according to experts on here.

cods wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 5:11pm:

Of course it was. Afterall, there is no god to send anything. Still, a silly comment considering..

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 4:53pm:

sounds like a great idea, with solar panels and a good borer like the one from the boring Company it might actually be feasible....As technology gets better plans like this could become a reality.
I think most of the posters on this thread have had the same plan of pumping coastal water to the interior Cods...….

miketrees wrote on Feb 8^th, 2019 at 11:56am:

ahh good point... I wonder if the ones that have been made can be relooked at and see if maybe solar panels could make them more feasible...…
or r they just badly designed and need to be bulldozed down and start again .

miketrees wrote on Feb 9^th, 2019 at 3:01pm:



well you know mike   we have put a man on the moon  they are busy spending zillions on finding life on Mars and Pluto..this shouldnt be hard at all... both wind and sun being permanent residence of Qld....what could be cheaper?????.....anything at all is worth considering rather than doing nothing   just complaining..