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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #15 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:13pm

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:03pm:

Yeah Jasin I too have wondered why we couldnt be pumping up over the tablelands from the massive east coast rivers in northern NSW to feed inland dams /rivers

It has been claimed the energy required to pump would make it to expensive however I think with the cost of solar now so low, a large solar farm set up purely to power the pumping during sunlight hours (if necessary) could surely pump the equivalent of an average inland river.

dont talk expensive what the HELL is what is happening called???>..

and now a ROYAL omg...since when does a ROYAL fix a stinking river system...all itsd does is give legals a job and point fingers... Roll Eyes

why does it make sense to some?????

once the system is dead its dead.....

have you ever looked at why the Egyptian Empire died..... it was all to do with water and where its supply came from..

the good people of Egypt were eating their babies...to stay alive.... just a bit of trivia there.. Sad

U mean they where living in Denial Wink

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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #16 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:13pm

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:12pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:08pm:

Maybe think about growing cotton and rice where there is an abundance of water?

I know ... too radical an idea eh?

why do we grow cotton here ?? we no longer manufacture it or weave fabric..at least RICE is food.

True, and given the vast amount of water up north ... why not grow the stuff up there? Wink

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 24014 ACT Gender:	Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling Reply #17 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:13pm Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:08pm: Maybe think about growing cotton and rice where there is an abundance of water? I know ... too radical an idea eh? Agree, do they grow any up in Northern states where they have wet seasons? What is the situation in the Ord River development?
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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #18 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:30pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:13pm:

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:12pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:08pm:

Maybe think about growing cotton and rice where there is an abundance of water?

I know ... too radical an idea eh?

why do we grow cotton here ?? we no longer manufacture it or weave fabric..at least RICE is food.

True, and given the vast amount of water up north ... why not grow the stuff up there? Wink

the trouble with ewater in this country it comes and goes even in the NT where it seems to rain all the time....although why not grow it in the NT come to think of it.??..

I dont know I dont profess to know anything about our water system all I know is what we are doing right now at this very moment had been going on for years all they a re doing is moving the fence posts..

and kidding us they have fixed it....and NO THEY HAVENT THEY HAVE MADE IS WORSE>.

we cant keep letting these morons do this...

look at Tim Flannery Roll Eyes

no credentials at all..

they may as well bring in bloody bird watchers....

then they piss off with all the money they can get and turn their back on us...

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 24014 ACT Gender:	Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling Reply #19 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:41pm I think this as I stated in the OP is the real issue I think it should be controlled by one authority not a dogs breakfast with all the states and commonwealth involved as it appears now.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling Reply #20 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:43pm As long as politics stands in the way nothing will get done. Red and blue, lab and lib both hopeless as each other.
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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #21 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:56pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:41pm:

I think this as I stated in the OP is the real issue

I think it should be controlled by one authority not a dogs breakfast with all the states and commonwealth involved as it appears now.

so because its in 3 states id say it would have to be 100% commonwealth.....
would they just take over the Murry or all major rivers ?

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Reply #22 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 2:01pm

cods wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 11:17am:

what gets me iks the WASTE we see all the time in this country look at Qlg once again under FLOOD>...

it is NORMAL IN QLD...every time its treated like its a plague when in fact it is a god send...

we are mad we allow small noise little arse like the Greens to terrify us into digging the smallest hole...

and then when something BIG like this happens the smart arses sit back and point their ugly fingers...

it makes me so angry....the tree sitters and frog counters....need to take a good look aty themselves and realise the trees and frogs and our rivers all need WATER.. that right now is going to waste and being cursed..

sorry red this is sad... yet all we do is the blame game...where are all these experts from around the world we havent got this right and we are still floundering....bring in the world experts... dont care what it cost...

we havent got the expertise..and we have to many EMPIRE BUILDERS.... Angry

Wow, Cods. You're on fire !

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Reply #23 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 2:03pm

And there's more !

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nd kidding us they have fixed it....and NO THEY HAVENT THEY HAVE MADE IS WORSE>.

we cant keep letting these morons do this...

look at Tim Flannery no credentials at all..

they may as well bring in bloody bird watchers....

then they piss off with all the money they can get and turn their back on us...

Awesome, Cods Smiley

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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #24 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 4:00pm

PZ547 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 2:03pm:

And there's more !

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nd kidding us they have fixed it....and NO THEY HAVENT THEY HAVE MADE IS WORSE>.

we cant keep letting these morons do this...

look at Tim Flannery no credentials at all..

they may as well bring in bloody bird watchers....

then they piss off with all the money they can get and turn their back on us...

Awesome, Cods Smiley

THANK YOU I DONT GET TOO MANY COMPLIMENTS I TRUST YOU MEAN THAT AND NOT TAKING THE MICKEY AS THEY SAY..

i get sick of the buck passing to win a point.. that doesnt solve something as chronic as this..

and it is we have all these Premiers.. EMPIRE BUILDERS where its all about them winning votes in their own back yards..

its pathetic... a bit like having a horse with several heads..... Angry

you wouldnt bother would you?...get rid of them all tell them to go and worry about whos got the best coffee machine or office chair...

leave this to people who actually know what they are doing....and will do it because its important not because it will WIN VOTES.. Angry

where are all our greeny chums they should of course be hiding in shame

after all what did they do to stop any of this??????..

and no it didnt happen in the last 2 or 3 years...States have been doing their sneaky acts for a long time...

where is the majority of that storm water in Qld going right now?? down the storm water drains...but not into any river system...that may have some value.. Angry

bunch of ning nongs..

when was the last time you heard of any minister in charge of WATER or Rivers being sacked???

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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #25 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 4:44pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:56pm:

so because its in 3 states id say it would have to be 100% commonwealth.....

'The Murray–Darling Basin is the largest and most complex river system in Australia. It runs from Queensland, through New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory, Victoria and South Australia, spanning 77,000 kilometres of rivers, many of which are connected."

https://www.mdba.gov.au/discover-basin

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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #26 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 5:05pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:03pm:

Yeah Jasin I too have wondered why we couldnt be pumping up over the tablelands from the massive east coast rivers in northern NSW to feed inland dams /rivers

It has been claimed the energy required to pump would make it too expensive however I think with the cost of solar now so low, a large solar farm set up purely to power the pumping during sunlight hours (if necessary) could surely pump the equivalent of an average inland river.

Oh I'm sure Mr Efron could tunnel through much of the steep inclines/gradients to pipe excess water through and the 'energy cost' would be recovered in the productivity of the water being put to use out there.

...meanwhile, they are still trying to 'sneak' Tunnels for the Cities because of over-population in them causing excessive traffic. Imagine if the entire 'Outback' of Australia opened up as a jobs boom in agriculture! No more over-crowded coastal cities.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #27 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 5:18pm

No CODS, PZ is right - you're doing well and he's not taking the Mickey out of you (in fact, given the chance, he would put the mickey in you if you let him Wink

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Anyway. About 5 years ago - the Federal Government was thinking about spending $10 BILLION to 'replicate' the Irrigation Scheme of the Riverina - up in the Diamantina Region of northern Australia. After that - nothing much has been said or seen about it??

Arabs would 'tunnel' water vast distances with 'drop wells' every so often along them. It was a very clever innovation of transporting water, beyond the touch of the sun.

There are many different ideas and many do work.
But as of yet - the Australian Government is not going to spend big money on something that benefits the future of this country while the Aboriginals still lay claim over 'everything' (even Australia Day).

With a vast network of carefully planned 'Artery/Vein' Network of Water Canals/Pipes all around the nation. Maybe one day, the 'natural' waterways will be left alone to become 'crystal clear' again?

Driving Taxi. I had to take a passenger from the Airport a good 30mins away. He just happened to be extremely 'high up' in the Water Management of the Country and travelled this country far and wide.
He did agree with me on one point: Farmers allowing 'hoofed' stock to trample the waterway edges and ruin the quality of the waterway.
There should be a 50-100m wide 'restriction zone' along every waterway from Farming. Just like there is with Sydney's water supply for quality reasons.

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Black Orchid Gold Member Offline Posts: 5887 Gender:	Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling Reply #28 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 5:53pm Well said Cods Not sure about the bird watchers though. Are there any birds left? Having said that, it's probably exactly who they would bring in as 'experts'.
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Re: What should be done with the Murray Darling
Reply #29 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 6:26pm

Black Orchid wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 5:53pm:

Well said Cods

Not sure about the bird watchers though. Are there any birds left?

Having said that, it's probably exactly who they would bring in as 'experts'.

thats what makes me sick black orchid A ROYAL COMM..

we never ever got told how much these buggers cost

and I dont know about you but I never see any CHANGE.. we still have bent coppers the union still has a strangle hold on labor.... the Banks will make zillions no matter who runs them....

and yes they will spend more money telling US THEY HAVE FIXED THE MURRAY BASIN..

and like zombies we will suck it up....

until the next death of zillions of fish... Angry

then we will whinge again..... for 5 loooooong minutes... Roll Eyes

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