I know, right? Aquascoot is already cheering on Sleepy Joe for being a WINNER. There’s Sleepy Joe, Aquascoot says, 78 years old, and he’s just won more votes than any other prez in history - 7 mil more than Mr Trump - the same number of electoral college votes Mr Trump won in 2016, a landslide.

Just think what it takes to do that, Aquascoot says, standing up and striding onto the world stage - after you’ve retired. There’s Sleepy Joe, a childhood stutterer, giving speeches and doing debates with the toughest guys the Manhattan real estate market, reality TV and Fox News can create. Sharp, cunning, bright as a button. He saw his first wife die tragically, brought up three young kids, then saw firstborn son die of cancer.

Sleepy Joe bounced back from the stutter, back from tragedy and depression to beat Mr Trump himself. No, Aquascoot says, we need to revere such a man, elevate him, study him.

5 years is the minimum.

There have already been so many recounts Yada.

How many will it take for you to accept the result?

Or do you just want them to keep doing recounts until you get the result you want?

Trump lost.

Get over it.

It wasn't stolen, there was no conspiracy, he was a bad President who rode the wave of his predecessors and ran the country and the Government like one of his businesses, towards bankruptcy. 

Generations will be paying for his Presidency and there is little to nothing to show for it.

There are 100,000's of people dead because of Trump and his inactions on COVID-19 alone.

You should be celebrating that he's gone.

Carl D wrote on Aug 8^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:


Every post a winner.

Trump lost his base because he's not Anti-vaxx.

They don't trust him anymore.

The monster he created has turned on him.

They're stupid enough, like so many on here, to support him again if he ever ran, but we're not dealing with sane rational people anymore.  COVID, the Jan 6th Terror Attacks and the constant demands the election was rigged has shown these people are so stupid they're a threat to the nation.

They'd rather destroy it than let anyone else be in charge, the new definition of American Patriotism.

"I love my country so much I'd rather destroy it than accept a democratically elected President I don't like".

Perhaps I've been too naive in thinking that the Trump supporters were just caught up in the excitement of the movement, but they, like so many on here, just struggle with lower IQs and don't know any better.

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2022 at 10:26am:


Incorrect. Figures show consistent GDP growth in the US since 1948.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/996758/rea-gdp-growth-united-states-1930-201...

The only times US economic growth has dropped to below 0% since the 60s is 1973 (the oil shocks), 1981 (Latin American loans crisis), 1991 ("credit crunch"), 2008 (GFC) and 2019 (covid).

Trump made no attempts to reduce the size and influence of government. Trump added over 8 trillion dollars to US government debt in less than one term, even before covid 19, wiping out the gains made during the slow GFC recovery. Trump's own budget office called it a "national debt crisis". Trump's presidency was the biggest spending administration in US history.

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

His solution? Increase tariffs. Trump believed his trade wars would bring in revenue, paying off debt "like water". This never happened. The revenue was dished out to farmers and small manufacturers, and ultimately, the money came from American consumers anyway. Trump's trade wars turned into the ever-increasing tax-and-spend cycle that had led to the GATT and all the previous work done on reducing tariffs in the past half century. In one administration, Trump upended global supply chains, disrupted the global financial system and created inflation even before covid. Far from any election rigging, Biden got many of his votes from the farmers and manufacturers hit hardest by Trump's trade wars, particularly in the swing states Trump contested, such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

As dysfunctional and destructive as it was, this was the election Trump wanted to fight: the economy and global trade. This was before covid hit and Trump turned into an even bigger spender, desperately trying to save his political skin. Trump's original strategy was to ignore the pandemic to keep trade talks going with China, who he originally praised for working closely with the US. When Trump couldn't pretend anymore, he reversed to blame the pandemic on China, trying to draw attention away from his own mismanagement of what he called the "Chi-na virus". You know the rest of the story. Bleach injections, heat and light, refusing to be seen in a face mask, catching and spreading covid, spruiking fake cures and the daily, ever-increasing death toll. The Trump presidency became an even bigger joke than anyone could have ever imagined, you couldn't make it up.

Ultimately, there was the election defeat, the silence, the legal attempts, the humiliating attempts to cling to power at all costs. The plots, the threats, the insurrection. It just went on and on. But do you know? I think we should remember Trump at his best, as the instigator of trade wars. This, after all, is how he really wanted to be seen: the great disrupter, the destroyer, preening to the chants of his followers: "smash it up."

Trump was the embodiment of the pathological establishment you describe. He allowed government debt to increase by a third. He undermined decades of tariff reduction and work on free trade, weakening the US and global economy. He stood by as covid hit, showing his arrogance, naked self-interest and inability to lead in a crisis. Far from being into small government, Trump imagined grand projects, infrastructure schemes to rival FDR, a great, big beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, and "as you know, I can build things, believe me". This is how I think we should judge Trump: on what he promised. None of it came to fruition, not even close. Today, after the corporate tax cuts, the trade wars and all the covid stimulus costs, the US is left with nothing in the bank. No great new highways, no big beautiful walls, and a mountain of debt.

The US has not been in decline since the 60s, but out of all those recessions from 1973 to 2019, the biggest recession started in 2019. Today, at -3.4%, GDP growth is the lowest it's been since 1946.

https://www.statista.com/chart/24056/annual-real-gdp-growth-in-the-united-states...

Trump came to power in 2016 with a modest 1.6% GDP growth figure, which grew to 2.7% for the first two years of his administration due to Reserve Bank and Obama-era policies, and the result of an improving housing and employment market, eight years after the GFC. What happened next, however, has nothing to do with covid or the Reserve Bank. World Bank figures show a drop in growth of 0.86% from 2018 to 2019, prior to any hit from covid. This was the emerging effect of Trump's trade wars. And after covid, of course, it has been in freefall ever since.

America has not been in decline since the 60s, but it may well be now.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

What is unforgivable about all of this is that he helped COVID spread to create the divide between his voters and Biden voters to create the Red Mirage to claim fraud and cheating by the Dems.