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Trump Speech Bingo
Jan 9th, 2019 at 11:00am
 
Who is playing along?

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(Full disclosure, I'll be in a meeting around then, so let me know how you all go!)
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Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 11:13am
 
america is in a lot of trouble.

things cant go on the way they are.

innovation must come in cycles to renew a system.

so we have had the printing press, the industrial revolution, the production line, the financial wave, the tech wave and now the social media wave.

these innovation cycles need to keep hitting a system at closer and closer intervals to keep the system afloat.

so even the tech revolution and the social media revolution are going to need to be transcended by another paradigm shift.

trump probably represents that paradigm shift which the system will need if it is not to stagnate.

the next shift will probably be to some sort of virtual reality which the consumer will construct.

plastic surgery, the gender fluid push, the virtual reality experience, the atomisation of the individual to the big tech companies and the false reality most people now live in, the cultural hypnosis,  the ability to use crisper technology to enhance genetics.

people seem to be pyning for some mythical truth in a new paradigm where truth doesnt matter anymore.

if people are going to relate to their phone and be fed a reality that is individualised , then how can there be an objective truth.

trump is ushering in this new world.

i dont think that the trump haters quite get it.

if elizabeth warren wants to be an indian, then in this new world she can
if you want fake body parts , you can be whatever you want
if russians want to be kids from idaho on facebook and share fake news then they can.

its no good bitching about it

trump is a bit of a phony construction of  trumps mind.
so what
everyone is.

embrace that
work with that

what you resist, will persist
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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 11:21am
 
KangAnon wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 11:00am:
Who is playing along?

https://i.imgur.com/SX2GgOZ.jpg

(Full disclosure, I'll be in a meeting around then, so let me know how you all go!)


I'll be playing.


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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:26pm
 
I haven't seen it yet, but who was the intended audience? Is he trying to get the support from the Republicans in his own party who have lost faith in him?

How is that going to work if he lies?

Could this be the start of the end for him if he just spouts the same lies and solidifies the loss of support from within his own party?
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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:28pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:26pm:
I haven't seen it yet, but who was the intended audience? Is he trying to get the support from the Republicans in his own party who have lost faith in him?

How is that going to work if he lies?

Could this be the start of the end for him if he just spouts the same lies and solidifies the loss of support from within his own party?



Giving support notwithstanding, is there really anyone left in the entire country (and world) that is not painfully aware that Trump lies about pretty much everything and pretty much all the time. Of what value is a speech where 99% of listeners KNOW he is lying, even if they still support him?
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Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:43pm
 
Wow... Just wow...

More lies than sniffs!  And the target audience really did seem to be his Republican colleagues.  It was like he was begging for his job, but lying and manufacturing a crisis.

What the actual bugger!?



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Reply #6 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:03pm
 

President M&M.

Misinformation & Malice.


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Reply #7 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:26pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 11:13am:
america is in a lot of trouble.

things cant go on the way they are.

innovation must come in cycles to renew a system.

so we have had the printing press, the industrial revolution, the production line, the financial wave, the tech wave and now the social media wave.

these innovation cycles need to keep hitting a system at closer and closer intervals to keep the system afloat.

so even the tech revolution and the social media revolution are going to need to be transcended by another paradigm shift.

trump probably represents that paradigm shift which the system will need if it is not to stagnate.

the next shift will probably be to some sort of virtual reality which the consumer will construct.

plastic surgery, the gender fluid push, the virtual reality experience, the atomisation of the individual to the big tech companies and the false reality most people now live in, the cultural hypnosis,  the ability to use crisper technology to enhance genetics.

people seem to be pyning for some mythical truth in a new paradigm where truth doesnt matter anymore.

if people are going to relate to their phone and be fed a reality that is individualised , then how can there be an objective truth.

trump is ushering in this new world.

i dont think that the trump haters quite get it.

if elizabeth warren wants to be an indian, then in this new world she can
if you want fake body parts , you can be whatever you want
if russians want to be kids from idaho on facebook and share fake news then they can.

its no good bitching about it

trump is a bit of a phony construction of  trumps mind.
so what
everyone is.

embrace that
work with that

what you resist, will persist


None of this has anything to do with the Wall, dear. Illegal border crossings are at an all time low - down by over two-thirds since 2000. There is no "humanitarian crisis".

The majority of illegal aliens in the US are visa overstayers. Most of the crime Mr Trump referred to was not done by border crossers, but as he said, "illegal aliens".

The majority of drugs aren't smuggled in over the border, most come by plane or boat.

Mexico will not "indirectly" pay for the Wall. This doesn't make any sense - Mr Trump didn't even try to explain it. Raising the idea of walls around politicians' homes makes even less sense. Mr Trump's trying to build a Wall, for the most part, in the middle of a desert.

A government shutdown won't pay for the Wall either. No president has ever cut off government funding under similar circumstances. Imagine, 800,000 US employees are now off work or working for no pay at all.

The 5.7 bil won't even pay for the Wall, just one year's funding in an estimated 28 billion project over many years. All experts say this is a huge underestimation of the total cost.

Feel free to stick to the topic, Aquascoot. You don't care about the Wall, you're just here to defend a "strong, confident leader".

Others, however, defend Mr Trump solely because of the Wall. They see it as a race issue - "they're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people".

The Wall is essentially a race issue - keeping out people from "shthole countries". It's not a humanitarian crisis and we all know this. The only humanitarian crisis has been the detention of illegal border crossers and the removal of their children. Mr Trump has created a problem, and now, he wants to present a solution.

But a wall is not the solution. Mr Trump said he'd been asked by border security officials to build a wall. This is false. There have been no formal requests, suggestions or reports from ICE or any other agency requesting a wall. The reports, which Democrats and Republicans in congress have already acted upon (and funded) recommended more electronic surveillance.

Mr Trump has changed the design from a "big beautiful wall - not a fence" to steel fenceposts so that border police can see through. They specifically recommended against a wall. A wall would actually hinder their work. They don't want the very thing Mr Trump promised - a fortress that would block off the murderers and rapists and keep them out of sight.

Did you know? The nearly 2 billion already funded by government to secure the border has not even been spent. In a "humanitarian crisis", Mr Trump hasn't even got to work on what border officials have requested, and what the congress and senate have already funded. And this, from a property developer "who builds things", who always comes in "ahead of time and under budget".

Mr Trump's speech was surprising in that it just reiterated what Mr Trump's already said. Nothing was announced - no emergency powers or military intervention. It was a last-ditch effort from a president who is utterly out of his depth, and possibly in his last days.

This is certainly the feeling in the White House by all accounts. Mr Trump is desperate to fund a core erection promise that no one wants or needs. Mr Trump, as president of the United States, is blindly tilting at a windmill. He doesn't even care about the Wall, he's just worried he'll have no political clout if he doesn't at least try.

Maybe, but he's not going to get it, so why try so hard?

Obama, with all his concessions and deals, finally got health care through a Republican house and senate. Mr Trump can't get his Wall through a Republican house and senate. Why would he succeed now?
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Reply #8 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:45pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:26pm:
I haven't seen it yet, but who was the intended audience? Is he trying to get the support from the Republicans in his own party who have lost faith in him?

How is that going to work if he lies?

Could this be the start of the end for him if he just spouts the same lies and solidifies the loss of support from within his own party?


The Trump base. Mr Trump tried to keep it straight because of the inevitable fact-checking, but he still lied through his teeth. One of the big lies is all those criminals who come through. Mr Trump has been counting anyone who comes from a country with a high murder rate as a criminal. His quoted "criminal" figures included all illegal border crossers, for example, from Honduras and Guatemala.

The examples of cop and veteran killers included "illegal aliens" - people who didn't even cross the border.

Mr Trump understands that he can't get this past the CNN and NBC fact checkers, so he at least used words that were definitionally correct.

But this was not his audience. Nor was it the Democrats. Presidents don't use national addresses to appeal solely to political opponents, but that's not the game.

Mr Trump knows the Democrats won't be convinced, and he knows that he's becoming more and more unpopular each day his shutdown continues. Why would the Democrats cave on an equally core promise to save Mr Trump's bottom?

The only people Mr Trump was addressing were his base. He's given up broadening his support, he's just trying to keep each and every Trump supporter he can from shifting over to the Democrats.
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Trump: "the federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

That's an outright lie.

The Democrats aren't refusing to fund border security.

Here's another lie:

Trump: "At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

The Democrats have made no such request.
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Reply #10 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:24pm:
Trump: "the federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

That's an outright lie.

The Democrats aren't refusing to fund border security.

Here's another lie:

Trump: "At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

The Democrats have made no such request.



you were there I take it?
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Reply #11 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:36pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:24pm:
Trump: "the federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

That's an outright lie.

The Democrats aren't refusing to fund border security.

Here's another lie:

Trump: "At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

The Democrats have made no such request.



you were there I take it?


I don't need to be there.

The Democrats are not refusing to fund border security, and they did not request that the wall be made of steel instead of concrete.

He lied, like he always does.


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Reply #12 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
cods wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:24pm:
Trump: "the federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

That's an outright lie.

The Democrats aren't refusing to fund border security.

Here's another lie:

Trump: "At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

The Democrats have made no such request.



you were there I take it?


I don't need to be there.

The Democrats are not refusing to fund border security, and they did not request that the wall be made of steel instead of concrete.

He lied, like he always does.




Here we go, cods:

"President Trump claimed that "the federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

"It’s not true that Democrats oppose funding for border security, they just aren't willing to meet Trump’s demand for more than $5 billion in wall funding. Congressional Democratic leaders have offered funding for roughly $1.3 billion for border security in the current shutdown fight.

"That offer remains on the table."


And ...

"President Trump claimed tonight that, "At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

"Despite Trump's claim, Democrats did not request a steel barrier on the US-Mexico border.

"Democrats have long been strenuously opposed to Trump's campaign promise that he would build a concrete wall on the US-Mexico border. But they did not propose a steel barrier as an alternative.

"Rather, Democrats have continued to oppose the construction of any new steel or concrete barrier on the Southern border. They have only kept the door open to funding a border barrier as part of a broader immigration deal."


Trump addresses the nation, Democrats respond

They WERE there.

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Reply #13 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:59pm
 
America was always going to go down the gurglur.
Trump is just softening the blow.
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Reply #14 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 3:07pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:59pm:
America was always going to go down the gurglur.
Trump is just softening the blow.


The only way he'd soften the blow is if his rotund physique was used as an airbag, otherwise, he's hitting the "gas", or accelerator if anything.

This address came as a desperate attempt to keep support within his party.  With the Dems gaining control of the house, the Republicans are the only thing preventing him from being impeached.

If enough of them, especially those up for re-election, are feeling it with this shutdown, which they are, his job is at risk.

This is why he was lying so very much about this being the Democrats fault, even though he's on record, with video evidence, saying he'd shut down the government and take the blame if he didn't get his wall.

This is all on him, it needs to be screamed from the rooftops.

This is the closest to accountability that he's faced, and to use the address to the nation for such blatant political purposes shows that even he's worried.
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