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Reply #75 - Jan 6th, 2019 at 3:43pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 3:38pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 1:14pm:
Elericro Magnetic Field



So the electro magenetic field will be influenced by both voltage and frequency.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 10:58am:
do a google search and its very little from unsulated wires and only when the electricy is flowing...



Like on High Voltage lines.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 10:58am:
the EMF from being connected to the grid would be the same EMF that would come off wires used coming from a battery,



Different order of magnitude. Depending on the battery voltage.





Also batteries provide direct current so there would be no field !
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Reply #76 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 5:04am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
lee wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 3:38pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 1:14pm:
Elericro Magnetic Field



So the electro magenetic field will be influenced by both voltage and frequency.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 10:58am:
do a google search and its very little from unsulated wires and only when the electricy is flowing...



Like on High Voltage lines.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 10:58am:
the EMF from being connected to the grid would be the same EMF that would come off wires used coming from a battery,



Different order of magnitude. Depending on the battery voltage.





Also batteries provide direct current so there would be no field !

from the A/C inverter that's it, and what ive read a very little amount from the batteries, lots from all the wireless stuff we use though Smiley
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Reply #77 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 12:40pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
Also batteries provide direct current so there would be no field !



Actually there is a field. it just doesn't vary.  Think DC and electro magnets. From small (leads wrapped around a screwdriver) to large container lifters. Some permanent some merely while power is applied.
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Reply #78 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 3:03pm
 
Whatever happened to Tweedledum's limited use Lithium titanate batteries which are too heavy, too low energy, and too expensive and only used in things like buses and medical devices ? Totally unsuited for Tesla.

To see Tweedledum and Tweedledee exhibit their gross ignorance and inability to understand electricity is just sickening.

Classic North Coast rejects from the human race Globally Warmed Greeny Wacko types with vacant space between the ears and the mouth never stops flapping parroting silly Greeny rubbish.

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Good sane article from reliable CHOICE and not YouTube bulldust:- https://www.choice.com.au/home-improvement/energy-saving/solar/buying-guides/bat...

An interesting factor will be the blackouts that will be introduced if Labor gets in and cripples the power system with their renewable rubbish. The solar batteries will be a lot more attractive then from a reliability point of view rather than a financial point of view. Look to SA with its already crippled power system.
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Reply #79 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 3:43pm
 
Householders are going to face unexpected costs when the solar systems age.

There will be an increase in rooftop solar panel and battery fires and there will be additional costs for removal and disposal of defective aged systems, especially batteries which may require more care and cost in disposal and recycling.
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Reply #80 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 4:39pm
 
Another issue is when will the govt subsidies for solar be reduced and they will for sure.


A report from the National Research Council shows that the energy required to produce electricity and batteries makes electric cars and hybrids more harmful to human health than gasoline vehicles.

Electric cars and plug-in hybrids pose more hazards to your health than gasoline vehicles.
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Reply #81 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:11pm
 
juliar wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Whatever happened to Tweedledum's limited use Lithium titanate batteries which are too heavy, too low energy, and too expensive and only used in things like buses and medical devices ? Totally unsuited for Tesla.





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Reply #82 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:14pm
 
Tweedledum the freak of nature has surfaced and the brainless coot still cannot understand the first thing about technical stuff.

The gormless North Coast dropout from the human race believes YouTube nonsense.
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Reply #83 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:31pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 12:40pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
Also batteries provide direct current so there would be no field !



Actually there is a field. it just doesn't vary.  Think DC and electro magnets. From small (leads wrapped around a screwdriver) to large container lifters. Some permanent some merely while power is applied.


And the E field is what ?
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Reply #84 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:32pm
 
juliar wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Tweedledum the freak of nature has surfaced and the brainless coot still cannot understand the first thing about technical stuff.

The gormless North Coast dropout from the human race believes YouTube nonsense.


And the E field is what dickhead ?



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Reply #85 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:58pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
And the E field is what ?



Whatever you want it to be. Wink

E(e) is the symbol for electromotive force.-It can also be V(v) - voltage.

"Voltage is usually indicated with the abbreviation V. However, you may sometimes see
voltage abbreviated with the letter E, which stands for electromotive force."

https://www.icslearn.ca/-/media/files/pdf/samplelessons/002-basic-electronics-ca...

Of course it could be something completely different, depending on what you are talking about. It may also be called the Potential Difference (PD) between two points.
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Reply #86 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:32pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:58pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
And the E field is what ?



Whatever you want it to be. Wink

E(e) is the symbol for electromotive force.-It can also be V(v) - voltage.

"Voltage is usually indicated with the abbreviation V. However, you may sometimes see
voltage abbreviated with the letter E, which stands for electromotive force."

https://www.icslearn.ca/-/media/files/pdf/samplelessons/002-basic-electronics-ca...

Of course it could be something completely different, depending on what you are talking about. It may also be called the Potential Difference (PD) between two points.


E field is the electric field. You have it wrong as usual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_field


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Reply #87 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:36pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
E field is the electric field.



yes petal Generally measured in VOLTS.

"(sometimes abbreviated as E-field)"

Only sometimes? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I did say it depended on what you were talking about.

So what was so wrong about it? or can't you explain it? Just have a wiki reference? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #88 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:52pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:36pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
E field is the electric field.



yes petal Generally measured in VOLTS.

"(sometimes abbreviated as E-field)"

Only sometimes? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I did say it depended on what you were talking about.

So what was so wrong about it? or can't you explain it? Just have a wiki reference? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


No it's not. It's measured in Volts per meter or Newtons per coulomb !!
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Reply #89 - Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:59pm
 
Tweedledum is using the same "argument" technique the Gay Greenies use where they are ALWAYS RIGHT and everyone else is ALWAYS WRONG.

When one of these lulus is overturned they fly into a personal attack on the hated person who has so humiliated them.

This silly childish attempt at personalizing things is seen with the mentally unabled Tweedledum's failed attempt to try to make out that I have the slightest interest in her LTO batteries which are too heavy, too expensive, and have too low an energy density and have a gassing problem and are mainly used for heavy duty things like buses and safety things like medical devices such as charging stations, tourist coaches, yachts, wind and solar energy storage power, traffic signals, solar hybrid street lighting, UPS power supply, home storage, disaster relief emergency, weather radar, electricity, smart grid, communication base stations, hospitals, finance, telecommunications as well as system critical backup power systems.

Because of their low energy density and greater weight and high expense these batteries are of no interest to Tesla which wants to keep weight down and energy up.

Tesla has captured the market with its Li Ion PowerWall battery which is a potential fire hazard. Trying to use LTO batteries for this would require a larger unit which would be more expensive and with slow charging from a solar array high charge rates are irrelevant and so a long life should be available.

And electricity is OBVIOUSLY all Greek to Tweedledum who has not got the vaguest clue about it and is just embarrassing herself by uncomprehendingly parroting stuff from Google.
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