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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21238 Gender:	Re: Residential Batteries Reply #60 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 10:43am Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 10:30am: Oh dear, what's the problem now. Should be easy to refute their claims now that they provide actual physical evidence of their product in operation Oh dear Lostsnail has now refuted the idea that youtube may be edited. Or be a compilation of different takes.
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Reply #61 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 10:43am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 10:30am:

Oh dear, what's the problem now. Should be easy to refute their claims now that they provide actual physical evidence of their product in operation

Oh dear Lostsnail has now refuted the idea that youtube may be edited. Or be a compilation of different takes.
Grin

That's a supposition. If you have the evidence then by all means refute their claims.

I know it hurts you to be proven wrong on this but did it ever occur to you that sooner or later better battery designs were going to appear contrary to the do-nothing approach held by the retards in the LNP ?

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Reply #62 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:35am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

That's a supposition.

What that youtubes can be edited? be a compilation of takes? Grin

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

I know it hurts you to be proven wrong on this but did it ever occur to you that sooner or later better battery designs were going to appear contrary to the do-nothing approach held by the retards in the LNP ?

A better battery design may well occur. It won't be because of an infomercial on youtube.

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Reply #63 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 12:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

I know it hurts you to be proven wrong on this but did it ever occur to you that sooner or later better battery designs were going to appear contrary to the do-nothing approach held by the retards in the LNP ?

Yes better battery designs will occur i doubt any of them will be lighter than Lithium batteries.

With a Relative Density of 0.53 there is not much that can compete with Lithium for weight.

For batteries that have to move like in cars boats and planes Lithium will be the choice for batteries that remain stationary like in homes does it really matter what they weigh?

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Reply #64 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 4:34pm

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:35am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

That's a supposition.

What that youtubes can be edited? be a compilation of takes? Grin

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

I know it hurts you to be proven wrong on this but did it ever occur to you that sooner or later better battery designs were going to appear contrary to the do-nothing approach held by the retards in the LNP ?

A better battery design may well occur. It won't be because of an infomercial on youtube.

Perish the thought that someone could actually come up with a better battery design. You must be having nightmares about it now Cheesy

LOL

Now it's turned into a debate about the authenticity of a youtube video and how they must have used trick photography Cheesy

LOL

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Reply #65 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 4:51pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Perish the thought that someone could actually come up with a better battery design. You must be having nightmares about it now

Nope.let it happen. But with someone else's money.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Now it's turned into a debate about the authenticity of a youtube video and how they must have used trick photography

Not at all. You are the one saying youtube videos can't be edited or compiled. Wink

Any tesla authored youtubes about lithium battery fires?

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Reply #66 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 5:37am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 12:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

I know it hurts you to be proven wrong on this but did it ever occur to you that sooner or later better battery designs were going to appear contrary to the do-nothing approach held by the retards in the LNP ?

Yes better battery designs will occur i doubt any of them will be lighter than Lithium batteries.

With a Relative Density of 0.53 there is not much that can compete with Lithium for weight.

For batteries that have to move like in cars boats and planes Lithium will be the choice for batteries that remain stationary like in homes does it really matter what they weigh?

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except all the solid state batteries being made and developed of course

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Reply #68 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:44am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 5:37am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 12:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

I know it hurts you to be proven wrong on this but did it ever occur to you that sooner or later better battery designs were going to appear contrary to the do-nothing approach held by the retards in the LNP ?

Yes better battery designs will occur i doubt any of them will be lighter than Lithium batteries.

With a Relative Density of 0.53 there is not much that can compete with Lithium for weight.

For batteries that have to move like in cars boats and planes Lithium will be the choice for batteries that remain stationary like in homes does it really matter what they weigh?

https://www.reade.com/reade-resources/reference-educational/reade-reference-char...

except all the solid state batteries being made and developed of course

My prediction is that someone other than an LNP supporter will develop a better battery whilst the LNP supporter will tell you that it can't be done Cheesy

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Reply #69 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:47am

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 4:51pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Perish the thought that someone could actually come up with a better battery design. You must be having nightmares about it now

Nope.let it happen. But with someone else's money.

It has with china money not ours ! Just stupid aussies borrowing money to feed real estate agents and nothing else. A very good investment for a nation of low achievers Sad

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Reply #70 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:58am

Ajax wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 8:46am:

What about EMF coming from these batteries.....??

Do u mean the EMF from the wires when electricity is used.... do a google search and its very little from unsulated wires and only when the electricy is flowing..... the EMF from being connected to the grid would be the same EMF that would come off wires used coming from a battery, I'm sure no or very little would be coming from the batteries themselves.

If u have a overhead wire connecting u to the grid, that would be your highest source in a household situation.
Check the EMF's from train stations because of electric trains... that's where u see high readings, no insulation. Wink

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30923 Gender:	Re: Residential Batteries Reply #71 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 11:17am Ajax wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 8:46am: What about EMF coming from these batteries.....?? You mean EMI ?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21238 Gender:	Re: Residential Batteries Reply #72 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 12:35pm EMF - ElectroMotive Force? ElectroMagnetic Force?
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Reply #74 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 3:38pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

Elericro Magnetic Field

So the electro magenetic field will be influenced by both voltage and frequency.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:58am:

do a google search and its very little from unsulated wires and only when the electricy is flowing...

Like on High Voltage lines.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:58am:

the EMF from being connected to the grid would be the same EMF that would come off wires used coming from a battery,

Different order of magnitude. Depending on the battery voltage. The battery voltage will need to be converted to AC to be fed into the grid. That will introduce its own losses.

The EMF of the grid will be greater.

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