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Reply #45 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:45pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:18pm:
Their version looks pretty safe to me



Ah an expert witless. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #46 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:46pm
 
juliar wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:43pm:
Tweedledum is just too dumb to understand technical stuff. Even needs help with words of more than one syllable.

Silly fool thinks just because something is on YouTube it MUST BE RIGHT. She should stay in the extremist section.

Just goes to show how useless and uninformed Greeny fools are. What a useless waste of space that is not worth feeding.

Her batteries are of very little use like her.

But when you get the actual real working FACTS silly old Tweedledum looks even dumber and sillier and more uninformed and generally ignorant than normal. Typical empty headed full of fowl air Greeny type.

The missing practical FACTS to mention are the massive weight, space, and dollars saved by using L-ion rather than LTO. If LTO cannot come even close to competing by either cost or weight they will not be accepted by most consumers.

Lithium ion anodes have 175-455 watt hr/kg compared to 1302-1488 watt hr/kg. The result is LTO batteries end up being heavier, bigger and more expensive than if they had used a graphite anode.

The NCIB case study you posted about flammability of batteries is for an LTO anode, not a graphite one…..isn’t that the opposite of what you are claiming?

Either way I think you were right by accident because LTO’s swell due to a reaction where the electrolyte gives off gases carbon dioxide, and highly flammable carbon monoxide and hydrogen.

Graphite does not produce gasses from reacting with electrolyte. Not that safety concerns matters much for demand of L-ion batteries, they are time tested and proven safe, even if these airlines overreact to mere suspicions and ban transportation of batteries would that even be a bad thing? That just brings more battery factories and mines close to home.

The other link you posted shows that L-ion batteries are the most accepted on aircraft out of any types of battery, again I thought you were saying the opposite?: http://phmsa.dot.gov/safetravel/batteries

Did you read the end of the BIFA article you posted? The quote is below, they are not turning down business at all, just making sure they are packaged properly and restricting in shipments from Asia where there is quality control problems.

“…thousands of the batteries may be packed onto pallets and loaded into the cargo holds of passenger planes. At this point it is important to emphasise that no cargo fires aboard passenger airlines have been attributed to batteries.

United Airlines and Delta will continue to accept shipments when the batteries are packed inside or with equipment such as laptops or power tools.”


https://investorintel.com/sectors/technology-metals/technology-metals-intel/lith...




What about Yinlong Lithium Titanate Batteries socko ??

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Reply #47 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:49pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:20pm:
(I think the answer rhymes with hero )



Ah. You think. That must be a novelty for you.
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Reply #48 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:00pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:18pm:
Instead you prefer the results of a google search that agrees with your biased negativity.



You believe youtube over research papers? Roll Eyes
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Reply #49 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:03pm
 
Poor retarded Greeny drongo Tweedledum is a poor loser and has totally lost the argument as her very limited use wonder batts are just a very specific use as they are too heavy and have too low density and are too expensive and so are mainly used for large buses trundling around a set route.

So Musky is a lot smarter than dumb dull dense Tweedledum when he uses the much lighter, higher power density and CHEAPER Li ion batteries even if they do explode.
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Reply #50 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:29pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:49pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:20pm:
(I think the answer rhymes with hero )



Ah. You think. That must be a novelty for you.

yes u should try it some day Lee  Cheesy Grin
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Reply #51 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:45pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:29pm:
yes u should try it some day Lee



i do. that's why you keep getting shot down with science. Wink
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Reply #52 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:51pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:45pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:29pm:
yes u should try it some day Lee



i do. that's why you keep getting shot down with science. Wink

u think ? Grin Shocked
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Reply #53 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:58pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:51pm:
u think ?



Yep. That's why you keep getting shot down. Smiley
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Reply #54 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 9:34pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:18pm:
Instead you prefer the results of a google search that agrees with your biased negativity.



You believe youtube over research papers? Roll Eyes



was it research done on the Yuling brand LTO batteries ? Not every battery is going to be constructed in the same way.
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Reply #55 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 9:35pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:45pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 5:29pm:
yes u should try it some day Lee



i do. that's why you keep getting shot down with science. Wink


your idea of science is an out of context copy and paste job Cheesy LOL
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Reply #56 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 9:42pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
your idea of science is an out of context copy and paste job


You always have the opportunity to show any out of context quotes.


Whereas yours is youtube. Wink
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Reply #57 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:18pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
your idea of science is an out of context copy and paste job


You always have the opportunity to show any out of context quotes.


Whereas yours is youtube. Wink


OK then refute their claims Wink
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Reply #58 - Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:46pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:18pm:
OK then refute their claims



Oh dear. youtube. The home of sales pitch and propaganda.

If they have any basis they should be able to point to a research paper. Wink

I am assuming since you haven't previously pointed to one their is no such claim.
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Reply #59 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 10:30am
 
lee wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:46pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:18pm:
OK then refute their claims



Oh dear. youtube. The home of sales pitch and propaganda.

If they have any basis they should be able to point to a research paper. Wink

I am assuming since you haven't previously pointed to one their is no such claim.


Oh dear, what's the problem now. Should be easy to refute their claims now that they provide actual physical evidence of their product in operation Wink
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