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Reply #15 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:08pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
No lets just can the whole idea because they haven't built an 747 yet.



So tell us. More powerful, lighter batteries? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
For years we got the same criticisms for golf buggy style EV's but then Tesla comes along and turns all of that on its head and you lot end up eating your own vomit.



Really where was that said? All I can recall is questions of capacity, recharge etc. Questions that still remain for other than commutes.

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
Just pieces of human flotsam hell bent on robbing people with hare brain business ideas that can't possibly compete on a level playing field



You mean like the level playing field of intermittent power? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #16 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:08pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 11:44pm:
According to you retards it was never going to get off the ground.



Got a reference for that?
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Reply #17 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:10pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:20am:
t’s ok Lastnial , these men need to be pitied not scorned, as they have lost the wonder of life, they can’t get excited about possibilities, they can only see the negative and I find it very saddening.



poor ddh. Getting excited about possibilities? It would be better to get excited about probabilities.
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Reply #18 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 2:23pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:10pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:20am:
t’s ok Lastnial , these men need to be pitied not scorned, as they have lost the wonder of life, they can’t get excited about possibilities, they can only see the negative and I find it very saddening.



poor ddh. Getting excited about possibilities? It would be better to get excited about probabilities.

There there Lee it’s ok.........and yes Id go for possibilities than probabilities any day.... u rest my case  Wink
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Reply #19 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
and yes Id go for possibilities than probabilities any day..


yes. So many new batteries - never made to production.
So any renewable energies - never made it to commercialisation.
And now Wind turbines.

"The analysis of almost 3,000 onshore wind turbines — the biggest study of its kind —warns that they will continue to generate electricity effectively for just 12 to 15 years.

The wind energy industry and the Government base all their calculations on turbines enjoying a lifespan of 20 to 25 years.

The study estimates that routine wear and tear will more than double the cost of electricity being produced by wind farms in the next decade.

Older turbines will need to be replaced more quickly than the industry estimates while many more will need to be built onshore if the Government is to meet renewable energy targets by 2020.

The extra cost is likely to be passed on to households, which already pay about £1 billion a year in a consumer subsidy that is added to electricity bills. "

" The report’s author, Prof Gordon Hughes, an economist at Edinburgh University and a former energy adviser to the World Bank, discovered that the “load factor” — the efficiency rating of a turbine based on the percentage of electricity it actually produces compared with its theoretical maximum — is reduced from 24 per cent in the first 12 months of operation to just 11 per cent after 15 years.

The decline in the output of offshore wind farms, based on a study of Danish wind farms, appears even more dramatic. The load factor for turbines built on platforms in the sea is reduced from 39 per cent to 15 per cent after 10 years."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/windpower/9770837/Wind-farm-turbin...

That makes replacement sooner rather than later.


DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
. u rest my case 



I have heard that about you. They call you "the Judge" on the wharves. Always resting on your case. Wink
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Reply #20 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
and yes Id go for possibilities than probabilities any day..


yes. So many new batteries - never made to production.
So any renewable energies - never made it to commercialisation.
And now Wind turbines.

"The analysis of almost 3,000 onshore wind turbines — the biggest study of its kind —warns that they will continue to generate electricity effectively for just 12 to 15 years.

The wind energy industry and the Government base all their calculations on turbines enjoying a lifespan of 20 to 25 years.

The study estimates that routine wear and tear will more than double the cost of electricity being produced by wind farms in the next decade.

Older turbines will need to be replaced more quickly than the industry estimates while many more will need to be built onshore if the Government is to meet renewable energy targets by 2020.

The extra cost is likely to be passed on to households, which already pay about £1 billion a year in a consumer subsidy that is added to electricity bills. "

" The report’s author, Prof Gordon Hughes, an economist at Edinburgh University and a former energy adviser to the World Bank, discovered that the “load factor” — the efficiency rating of a turbine based on the percentage of electricity it actually produces compared with its theoretical maximum — is reduced from 24 per cent in the first 12 months of operation to just 11 per cent after 15 years.

The decline in the output of offshore wind farms, based on a study of Danish wind farms, appears even more dramatic. The load factor for turbines built on platforms in the sea is reduced from 39 per cent to 15 per cent after 10 years."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/windpower/9770837/Wind-farm-turbin...

That makes replacement sooner rather than later.


DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
. u rest my case 



I have heard that about you. They call you "the Judge" on the wharves. Always resting on your case. Wink

Ahh another example of trying to find anything to make ppls efforts to make the world better seam wrong.... this is a study from 6 years ago from a anti wind farm group... so what’s the follow up Lee, have the wind farms fallen apart, was the report true or was it just a distorted report with no foundation as was stated in the artical u linked  but didn’t put that part in your post  Wink
Again it’s really easy to tear down but hard to build Lee  Wink
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Reply #21 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:20pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
Ahh another example of trying to find anything to make ppls efforts to make the world better seam wrong....



Really? is that what you intuited? Grin Grin Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
this is a study from 6 years ago from a anti wind farm group...


I thought it was from an economist. Wink

DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
so what’s the follow up Lee, have the wind farms fallen apart, was the report true or was it just a distorted report with no foundation as was stated in the artical u linked  but didn’t put that part in your post


Perhaps you can point me to where it was "distorted"?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
Again it’s really easy to tear down but hard to build Lee



Except n the case of wind generators they take a lot of tearing down. All that CO2 emitting concrete. Wink
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Reply #22 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:59pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:20pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
Ahh another example of trying to find anything to make ppls efforts to make the world better seam wrong....



Really? is that what you intuited? Grin Grin Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
this is a study from 6 years ago from a anti wind farm group...


I thought it was from an economist. Wink

DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
so what’s the follow up Lee, have the wind farms fallen apart, was the report true or was it just a distorted report with no foundation as was stated in the artical u linked  but didn’t put that part in your post


Perhaps you can point me to where it was "distorted"?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
Again it’s really easy to tear down but hard to build Lee



Except n the case of wind generators they take a lot of tearing down. All that CO2 emitting concrete. Wink

The report, published last week by the Renewable Energy Foundation (REF), a think tank that has campaigned against wind farms

So again have the turbines stopped working as the report was 7 years ago.... in 7 years have wind farms gotten cheaper. Have the gotten more economical and do they last longer now ? How much has coal power plants gotten better in. 7 years, are they half as cheep now .... r they more economical now since 7 years ago... r the coal plants that pollute less cheeper now..... Wink
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Reply #23 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:04pm
 
I just realized u have done it again...... now we r not talking about planes.....anther great deflection there king Lee  Wink
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Reply #24 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:59pm:
The report, published last week by the Renewable Energy Foundation (REF), a think tank that has campaigned against wind farms



So that makes the report bogus? distorted? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:59pm:
So again have the turbines stopped working as the report was 7 years ago.... in 7 years have wind farms gotten cheaper.



And they still need backup power supplies? When you factor that in they ain't cheaper.

Whether it is gas peaking plants or batteries. And gas peaking plants are powered by the dreaded fossil fuels. Wink
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Reply #25 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:13pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
I just realized u have done it again...... now we r not talking about planes.....anther great deflection there king Lee 


Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 1:43pm:
You see that's why I asked you what you really stand for because all you do is bag anything that threatens your beloved fossil fool industry. Just look at the sh.t you keep posting here.


Perhaps you should pin the blame where it belongs. Wink

And then you started waffling about possibilities. Apart from a light plane what other possibilities did you want to discuss under flight? Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #26 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:21pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
I just realized u have done it again...... now we r not talking about planes.....anther great deflection there king Lee 


Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 1:43pm:
You see that's why I asked you what you really stand for because all you do is bag anything that threatens your beloved fossil fool industry. Just look at the sh.t you keep posting here.


Perhaps you should pin the blame where it belongs. Wink

And then you started waffling about possibilities. Apart from a light plane what other possibilities did you want to discuss under flight? Grin Grin Grin


As opposed to the do nothing LNP party. Remember Doctor NO aka Tiny ABort. No No No No No No No No.....

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Reply #27 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:42pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:21pm:
As opposed to the do nothing LNP party. Remember Doctor NO aka Tiny ABort. No No No No No No No No.....



oh dear. trying to take the topic off piste? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #28 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:02pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:08pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 11:44pm:
According to you retards it was never going to get off the ground.



Got a reference for that?


Yes Cheesy LOL

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Reply #29 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:12pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 11:44pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29th, 2018 at 8:58am:
Check it out guys ! The LNP voters would tell you it couldn't be done but here it is Wink

See what Australia has missed out on Sad But then again we have lots of casual jobs making cups of coffee and mowing lawns. What great career prospects we have for our youth Sad



7 minutes of flight used 20% of battery do you think that is impressive?


According to you retards it was never going to get off the ground.


Can you cite where I would have said that or did you pluck that from your ass?

That plane uses 20% of battery for 7 minutes flight time so keeping a little in reserve it's good for just under half an hour flight time per battery charge.

It would be lucky to do 100 knots (184 KPH) in level flight so it would have a range of about 90km

How far apart are airports? Is this thing limited to flying patterns around the airport it takes off from?

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