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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19725 Gender:	Re: Totally all electric plane - the future is here !! Reply #105 - May 21^st, 2019 at 5:27pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21^st, 2019 at 5:19pm: See this is what happens when you just quote one line and start getting too old petal.... this is to do with post number 100 Lee Oh you mean the single seater with something less than a 260lb capacity.
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Reply #107 - May 21^st, 2019 at 9:06pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21^st, 2019 at 5:49pm:

The plane looks to be about 4mtres by about 10 metres so that's all it needs to land, so any road even back yard... if you go to about the 2 min mark you can see it fly straight up. that should help Lee

The question about how much it weighs has a direct bearing on how weight it puts on the ground. Will it sink in.

So "any" land seems a tad optimistic.

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Reply #108 - May 22^nd, 2019 at 7:50am

lee wrote on May 21^st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21^st, 2019 at 5:49pm:

The plane looks to be about 4mtres by about 10 metres so that's all it needs to land, so any road even back yard... if you go to about the 2 min mark you can see it fly straight up. that should help Lee

The question about how much it weighs has a direct bearing on how weight it puts on the ground. Will it sink in.

So "any" land seems a tad optimistic.

why cant it hover just above the ground when they load it ,in that very rare time the ground or a road is too boggy ?

Three light weight circles about a metre wide stored on a ambulance or even the plane to make a instant landing pad... there are many ways around it. Wink

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Reply #109 - May 22^nd, 2019 at 6:51pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 22^nd, 2019 at 7:50am:

why cant it hover just above the ground when they load it ,in that very rare time the ground or a road is too boggy ?

They generally take 15 to 20 minutes to load a patient. The paramedic on board has to be satisfied the patient is stable first. That all comes out of the allowable flight time.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 22^nd, 2019 at 7:50am:

Three light weight circles about a metre wide stored on a ambulance or even the plane to make a instant landing pad.

And they hover whilst somebody moves around under it placing these squares? Doesn't sound very safe.

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Reply #110 - May 23^rd, 2019 at 7:06am

lee wrote on May 22^nd, 2019 at 6:51pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 22^nd, 2019 at 7:50am:

why cant it hover just above the ground when they load it ,in that very rare time the ground or a road is too boggy ?

They generally take 15 to 20 minutes to load a patient. The paramedic on board has to be satisfied the patient is stable first. That all comes out of the allowable flight time.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 22^nd, 2019 at 7:50am:

Three light weight circles about a metre wide stored on a ambulance or even the plane to make a instant landing pad.

And they hover whilst somebody moves around under it placing these squares? Doesn't sound very safe.

once the squares are on the ground they can go up again you know

or as i said have the stabilizers on the ambulance so they can be placed on the ground beforehand
But it would only have to be for patients that where considered a risk of hurting more if they moved them to the local hospital first
The other thing to consider if they are relatively easy to fly they can teach the ambulance drivers to use them and have them placed at the local hospitals and dramatically bring down waiting time for the patient's:)

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Reply #111 - May 23^rd, 2019 at 4:54pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 7:06am:

once the squares are on the ground they can go up again you know

Yes petal. Was it you volunteering to be under the plane to place them? Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 7:06am:

The other thing to consider if they are relatively easy to fly they can teach the ambulance drivers to use them and have them placed at the local hospitals and dramatically bring down waiting time for the patient's:)

Are you still talking about the five seater Lillium Jet? It doesn't seem likely.

You do realise out in the bush the Ambos, Fire & Rescue are all volunteers? Governments don't want to spend money in the bush. Their voter core is in the cities.

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Reply #112 - May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:28pm

lee wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 4:54pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 7:06am:

once the squares are on the ground they can go up again you know

Yes petal. Was it you volunteering to be under the plane to place them? Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 7:06am:

The other thing to consider if they are relatively easy to fly they can teach the ambulance drivers to use them and have them placed at the local hospitals and dramatically bring down waiting time for the patient's:)

Are you still talking about the five seater Lillium Jet? It doesn't seem likely.

You do realise out in the bush the Ambos, Fire & Rescue are all volunteers? Governments don't want to spend money in the bush. Their voter core is in the cities.

Sure they can drop the squares and take off again I wouldn't have a problem putting down 3 lightweight square in a that odd time when a life is at risk..... or just put the stabilizers in the ambulances and not have the problem would probable be better

They are planning to make them into Taxi's id say they will have to be easy to fly and safe to do that

not in QLD our ambulance and fire and rescue is Government funded... just the Rural fire brigade is Volunteer. Wink

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Reply #113 - May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:59pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:28pm:

Sure they can drop the squares and take off again I wouldn't have a problem putting down 3 lightweight square in a that odd time when a life is at risk..... or just put the stabilizers in the ambulances and not have the problem would probable be better

You do understand why they keep clear areas around helicopters when they are either taking off or landing? They are not exactly stable at low speeds.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:28pm:

They are planning to make them into Taxi's id say they will have to be easy to fly and safe to do that

A 300km flying taxi and no pilot's license? Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:28pm:

not in QLD our ambulance and fire and rescue is Government funded... just the Rural fire brigade is Volunteer.

Even our Volunteers are funded by the state. We just don't have all the "toys" that career officers have.

But cost will be a big factor and I don't see a state government stumping up for one every 200 kms radially from a hospital.

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Reply #114 - May 24^th, 2019 at 6:33am

lee wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:59pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:28pm:

Sure they can drop the squares and take off again I wouldn't have a problem putting down 3 lightweight square in a that odd time when a life is at risk..... or just put the stabilizers in the ambulances and not have the problem would probable be better

You do understand why they keep clear areas around helicopters when they are either taking off or landing? They are not exactly stable at low speeds.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:28pm:

They are planning to make them into Taxi's id say they will have to be easy to fly and safe to do that

A 300km flying taxi and no pilot's license? Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 5:28pm:

not in QLD our ambulance and fire and rescue is Government funded... just the Rural fire brigade is Volunteer.

Even our Volunteers are funded by the state. We just don't have all the "toys" that career officers have.

But cost will be a big factor and I don't see a state government stumping up for one every 200 kms radially from a hospital.

and you do understand its not a Helicopter and when it takes off again it can fly sideways so it's not above you... or as I keep saying the ambulance can have to stabilizers

SO taxi drivers dont have a car licence... why would you think a plane Taxi wouldnt have one, they might not need a helcopter licence though or it may be autonomous....

Well as this is all hypethetic anyway, why not…..we have no idea of cost or continuing maintenance but id say it would be substancially less so 3 or 4 around a major hospital may or may not be feasable Wink

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Reply #115 - May 24^th, 2019 at 12:27pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

and you do understand its not a Helicopter and when it takes off again it can fly sideways so it's not above you..

Are you saying helicopters can't fly sideways? Grin

I am talking instability of aircraft at low speeds. Any little updraft, downdraft or side shear will cause it to shift. At higher speed it is better able to be controlled.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

SO taxi drivers dont have a car licence..

Really?

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

why would you think a plane Taxi wouldnt have one, they might not need a helcopter licence though or it may be autonomous....

Who said anything about a helicopter licence? CASA would have something to say about that.

Autonomous? As in remote flight over 100Km or someone on board the plane who isn't licensed to fly it?

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

.we have no idea of cost or continuing maintenance but id say it would be substancially less so 3 or 4 around a major hospital may or may not be feasable

So not in the bush then. Glad we sorted that bit out. Wink

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