Must be a kick in the nuts for the followers of the climate change religion.

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Dnarever wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 5:34pm:



Can you be the first one to name this island that was overcome by sea level rise as opposed subsidence, erosion etc?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 5:34pm:



Can you name any of these islands?

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 6:10pm:

Kiribati - again

"In contrast to those claims, the authors of a 2010 paper in the journal Global and Planetary Change used aerial and satellite photographs to conduct “the first quantitative analysis of physical changes” in 27 central Pacific coral reef islands. This included those in Kiribati.

The study examined four islands in Tarawa over periods of 31–65 years and found that:

    all four islands exhibited an increase in island area. Notably the three urbanized islands of Betio, Bairiki and Nanikai increased in area by 30, 16.3 and 12.5% respectively. Buariki in the north of the atoll exhibited an increase of 2%."

https://stream.org/nation-kiribati-growing-not-sinking/

The paper -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818110001013

Over 4 decades, there had been a net increase in land area in Tuvalu of 73.5 ha (2.9%), although the changes are not uniform, with 74% increasing and 27% decreasing in size. The sea level at the Funafuti tide gauge has risen at 3.9 mm per year, which is approximately twice the global average. The rising sea levels are identified as creating an increased transfer of wave energy across reef surfaces, which shifts sand, resulting in accretion to island shorelines, although this process does not result in additional habitable land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Tuvalu


That would seem to be more of a kick in the nuts to the deniers.

Ajax wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2018 at 10:16am:


While you are at it you can explain how the moon landings were faked and 9/11 was an inside job.
You would be a laughing stock on national television 

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2018 at 10:08am:



Interesting.

meanwhile -

"Vertical Land Movement Rate:      -1.69 ± 0.17 mm/yr"

http://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/rlr.diagrams/1839.php

Subsidence is not SLR.



http://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/stations/1839.php
try and tease out 3.9mm out of a mean 500mm tide range.

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 8:20pm:


Papers from general climate deniers, look at the video - Building sea walls and whole areas covered in water where homes had been.

Let me see who to believe ??

My own eyes or a clown looking for excuses ?

It's difficult to know what's happening with a volcanic island.

By definition they can grow in size.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2018 at 11:42am:



Ooh building close to the waters edge causes wet feet? I never knew that.

You do know that seas erode in places and deposit in others? I guess not. Islands change shape because of it. It doesn't mean less land just that it is located elsewhere.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2018 at 11:42am:


So because it is peer-reviewed science it is false? Interesting. I wonder how you manage to determine which peer-reviewed science is fact and which false.

lee wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2018 at 12:53pm:


Gee you ask some rather obvious questions.

Wave action is obviously part of the equation, wave action working off a higher water level will cause erosion of areas previously not exposed to wave erosion. There is no need to tell anything apart it is all part of the process and driven by higher water levels.

Higher water levels cause more erosion and part of the process is wave action being able to attack areas previously out of its reach.

lee wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2018 at 12:59pm:


it isn't the science which is at fault just the interpretation put on it by others. The report itself talks about substantial rising of water level.

Land area being eroded from the leading edges of islands and being deposited at the trailing edge which appears to possible be what I see in the movement patterns can only work till the islands migrate into deeper water. Obviously the migration is not good for current villages etc and the process provides new arid infertile land while stripping and salt damaging current fertile areas.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2018 at 8:27pm:



So wave action or sea level rise?

BTW - How did these "general climate deniers" doctor the "aerial and satellite photographs "?  How come other climate scientists have not discovered this "fraud"?

It is not as if sceptics control the narrative or the press.

Just too funny.