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Labor Won't Commit To Lifting Newstart Pay
Dec 18th, 2018 at 4:08pm
 
Labor won't commit to lifting Newstart pay   Angry   

  The Australian
   December 17, 2018

Labor will not commit to lifting dole payments if it wins the next election after Bill Shorten and his leadership team decided it was too expensive.

Instead the party will urgently review Newstart within 18 months.

"We believe in the greatness of the Australian safety net," Mr Shorten told the ALP national conference in Adelaide on Monday.

"We want to lift everyone's aspirations up. We are the great safety-netters of Australian politics."

Some Left faction members were pushing for a rise in the unemployment payment, but Monday's announcement confirms the issue has been neutralised.

"I proposed a specific amendment to our platform to substantially increase Newstart in the first term of a Labor government," NSW Labor delegate Darcy Byrne told the crowd.

"That explicit platform commitment wasn't supported by our leadership due to its expense, so instead we've won a commitment to urgently review the rate of Newstart when we win government."

Mr Byrne said Labor cannot ignore the human cost of failing to lift the Newstart rate.

"After our grave error in cutting payments for single parents when we were last in government, it's fair enough that social justice advocates want a commitment from us now," he said.

Newstart hasn't risen in real terms since 1994, prompting advocacy groups to call for a $75-a-week increase on the current rate of $275.

Australian Council of Social Service chief executive Cassandra Goldie slammed Labor's treatment of welfare payments.

"We could potentially wait three years (for any increase in payments)," she told ABC TV.

Former Liberal prime minister John Howard, the Business Council of Australia and the Greens are among those who have called for Newstart to be lifted.

Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen said the rate of the welfare payment needed to be assessed with the resources of government and departmental advice.

"Our policy has been clear of a review of Newstart and that remains the policy," he told reporters in Adelaide.

But he refused to commit any of the federal government's budget surplus to lifting the dole if elected.   Sad

"We don't know what policies the government has committed to in the decisions they've taken and I would invite them to announce those decisions and we can all respond," Mr Bowen said.
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Re: Labor Won't Commit To Lifting Newstart Pay
Reply #1 - Dec 18th, 2018 at 4:24pm
 
what a boy SUPER BILL IS crook   

you have to admit that....

hes not making this up as he goes along..


18months  then a review...WOW..like urgently....like wow again..

I like this boy crook... Smiley

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Reply #2 - Dec 18th, 2018 at 4:48pm
 
Shorten Caught Out In Politicianspeak on Dole!

Commitmentophobe Bill on the ropes as promises hinted at but not made!


** told yez I'd turn the electricity on Bill and The Girls once they are in The Hot Seat.... La Chaise Electrique...
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Reply #3 - Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:58pm
 
An increase to the dole can be funded in full by making corresponding cuts to the job services networks. Nobody can make a convincing case that these services are worth the $7,200,000,000 a year we're paying for them.
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Reply #4 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 5:48am
 
Unemployed Left to Starve By Shorten!


PM-in-waiting says money desperately needed to pay women already in jobs to take time off


Speaking at the national conference for women, pussy-whipped manginas, and self-interested opportunists, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten today condemned the Unemployed to a lifetime of eating noodle packets, and living in a ten by ten room with ten others.  Standing firmly on his party's platform, he says that the Unemployed will just have to wait, since more important things needed to be addressed to ensure gender and minority equality, and that countless billions must be set aside to cater to the wishes of women who require time off work for any reason, and for any remote reason anyone from the Alphabet community may wish to have addressed.

Questioned on the issue of super payments for the Unemployed being set aside into an account with no fees for the duration of their unemployment, so as to secure future government spending on retirement funding, Mr Shorten said this was not a priority, and future spending was for the future.

Queried on his potential government's plans to reduce the unemployment crisis, Mr Shorten replied that the jobs would fall like autumn leaves into the laps of the Unemployed once he was Prime Minister, and every Unemployed person would have two lobsters in every pot.

As for revenue, he said, that can all come from trusts and dividend imputation for anyone not a pensioner.....
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Reply #5 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 6:36am
 
Yeah they are the same. We need more options that aren't pauline

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Reply #6 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:32am
 
giving more money wont help
giving the poor more responsibility is the answer
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Reply #7 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:37am
 
Very unfair not to give the unemployed a fair and just increase.  Long overdue and also very necessary.   Sad
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Reply #8 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 11:14am
 
whiteknight wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:37am:
Very unfair not to give the unemployed a fair and just increase.  Long overdue and also very necessary.   Sad


Hi sir Crook,
And you thought that Labor cared about you. Embarrassed
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Reply #9 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 1:17pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:32am:
giving more money wont help
giving the poor more responsibility is the answer



...responsibility - -poverty - responsibility - poverty.. yep, Chief - got it right there...

How about giving them real jobs so they can BE responsible?
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Reply #10 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 1:20pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:37am:
Very unfair not to give the unemployed a fair and just increase.  Long overdue and also very necessary.   Sad



Money's needed for the Sheila's Crusade For Fat Sheilas and the Alphabet's Daily Whine Ceremony .. buggar the unemployed .... just barnacles on the hull.... gotta enforce equality you know - that's more important than people actually eating.....

Shows Bill in his true light, doesn't it?  Shows your 'feminists' and your 'alphabet whingers' in their true light as well....

Now let me turn on that switch for the chaise electrique ...... or should I wait until Bill is strapped into the high seat?  Igor - hold the third switch.... wait for the election...
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Reply #11 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 1:21pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
[quote author=aquascoot link=1545113311/6#6 date=1545168773]giving more money wont help
giving the poor more responsibility is the answer [/quot

...responsibility - -poverty - responsibility - poverty.. yep, Chief - got it right there...

How about giving them real jobs so they can BE responsible?



all you have to do is wait 18 months grap
'and 
SUPER BILL


will have it all under control..
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Reply #12 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 1:46pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 1:21pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:32am:
giving more money wont help
giving the poor more responsibility is the answer


...responsibility - -poverty - responsibility - poverty.. yep, Chief - got it right there...

How about giving them real jobs so they can BE responsible?



all you have to do is wait 18 months grap
'and 
SUPER BILL


will have it all under control..

You've clearly given up on the Liberals.
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