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Liberals propose federal ICAC, not retrospective
Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:32pm
 
Scott Morrison announces anti-corruption commission, buckling to crossbench pressure

Scott Morrison to establish a federal ICAC
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The Commissions would not be able to operate retrospectively.


Why are they so afraid of giving retrospective powers to the Federal anti-corruption commission? Have you got something to hide, Mr Morrison?
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Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:53pm
 
Bam wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Why are they so afraid of giving retrospective powers to the Federal anti-corruption commission? Have you got something to hide, Mr Morrison?


How much retrospectivity do you wish? 50 years, 25 years, 10 years, 2 years?
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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 1:17pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Why are they so afraid of giving retrospective powers to the Federal anti-corruption commission? Have you got something to hide, Mr Morrison?


How much retrospectivity do you wish? 50 years, 25 years, 10 years, 2 years?

The same level of retrospectivity the government has imposed on anyone who is accidentally overpaid by Centrelink $200: no statute of limitations at all.

After all, they are both taking money from the taxpayer they're not entitled to receive, so why not make them both the same?

The real question that must be answered: why is Morrison so scared of retrospectivity? You would think they've got something to hide.
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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 1:57pm
 
Bam wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
The same level of retrospectivity the government has imposed on anyone who is accidentally overpaid by Centrelink $200: no statute of limitations at all.


So that would include people like Al Grassby, Lionel Murphy, Michael Teti, Sam Dastyari. Wink
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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:12pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
The same level of retrospectivity the government has imposed on anyone who is accidentally overpaid by Centrelink $200: no statute of limitations at all.


So that would include people like Al Grassby, Lionel Murphy, Michael Teti, Sam Dastyari. Wink


Excellent. Make them all pay for their corruption.
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Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:34pm
 
"But the Coalition’s proposed integrity commission will operate outside of public view, with the investigative body to make no public findings, hold no public hearings, and refer any recommendations directly to prosecutors, who will make the ultimate decision on whether or not to go forward with a case."

Yeah...Right.
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:57pm
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
"But the Coalition’s proposed integrity commission will operate outside of public view, with the investigative body to make no public findings, hold no public hearings, and refer any recommendations directly to prosecutors, who will make the ultimate decision on whether or not to go forward with a case."

Yeah...Right.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Why keep this in the dark?

They had no trouble making the ABCC have hearings in public, so why have closed hearings here?
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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:59pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
The same level of retrospectivity the government has imposed on anyone who is accidentally overpaid by Centrelink $200: no statute of limitations at all.


So that would include people like Al Grassby, Lionel Murphy, Michael Teti, Sam Dastyari. Wink


That would depend if they have already been prosecuted for their crimes....When does a crime cease to be a crime and get overlooked....I have no problem with the new integrity commission looking into all Politicians over the last decade or even longer....Why would anyone want to let these bastards off the hook???

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Reply #8 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 3:33pm
 
Quick as a flash ScoMo pulls the rug from under sluggish Shorty.

Slow and sluggish Shorty is used to slow moving people like Labor types and just can't cope with fast slippery opportunity grabbing slickies like ScoMo.

And, as predicted, ScoMo has grabbed sluggish Shorty's main unfunded health farce policy by quickly boosting hospitals and health.

And ScoMo has effortlessly reduced housing prices without any of the Labor imbeciles' banning neg gearing and capital gains Socialist insanity.

And ScoMo has launched Australia's Space Industry in SA to boost votes there. Won't Labor and the unions try to quickly close it down as part of their Greenies' CLOSE DOWN ALL INDUSTRY IN AUSTRALIA big policy.

And ScoMo has already moved to reduce power prices by stopping gaming by the private operators while Labor prepares to increase power prices by 5 to 6 times with their crippling of the power network and their Carbon Tax.

And Dutto and ScoMo have stopped Labor in their tracks by threatening to send about 5 Labor + independent Section 44 violators to the High Court. LameDuck Phelpsy is shuddering in her slippers.

And ScoMo is cleverly widely advertising Labor's vicious Socialist Retiree tax which is designed to force retirees into Industrial Super so the unions can pilfer their money.

And ScoMo is having the time of his life rubbishing Shorty's RESTART the BOATS main policy.

And Labor's main support group GetUp! must be choking on their own slime as they make stuffup after stuffup.


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ScoMo the Shorty killer
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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:47pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Why are they so afraid of giving retrospective powers to the Federal anti-corruption commission? Have you got something to hide, Mr Morrison?


How much retrospectivity do you wish? 50 years, 25 years, 10 years, 2 years?



All of the above......
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Reply #10 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:51pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:47pm:
All of the above......



So in reality only one. The 50 years option covers the others. Wink
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Reply #11 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:54pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:51pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:47pm:
All of the above......



So in reality only one. The 50 years option covers the others. Wink



Add 'em together to make sure we clean the rat's nests out completely... won't work but still..
and we want public hearings and such - by what right does a government withhold information from those who employ it?  Is it to cover the reality that Morrison will order his Geheime Staats Polizei to investigate only opponents?

The man is an idiot clearly.... we're not going to buy this, and Shorten has a lay down misere by coming out and saying that  once a case has been developed the nation will be informed...
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Reply #12 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 6:09pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Add 'em together to make sure we clean the rat's nests out completely... won't work but still..


Yeah. Most politicians would be dead from over 50 years ago.



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Reply #13 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 6:10pm
 
Yet another ALP policy implemented from opposition.
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Reply #14 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 8:36pm
 
stunspore wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 6:10pm:
Yet another ALP policy implemented from opposition. 

Partially implemented. This Coalition proposal is weak. No transparency. No retrospectivity. It is but a toothless chihuahua.

What are the Coalition trying to hide?

Here's a list to make the Coalition shake in their boots if investigated: Indue, Gwabegar, Murray-Darling water entitlements, Calabrian Mafia, a long list of closed tenders that happened to go to their mates or donors. That's just a sample.
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