matty
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tickleandrose wrote on Dec 11 th, 2018 at 8:02am: matty wrote on Dec 11 th, 2018 at 6:49am: tickleandrose wrote on Dec 10 th, 2018 at 10:03am: matty wrote on Dec 9 th, 2018 at 8:23pm: tickleandrose wrote on Dec 5 th, 2018 at 12:37pm: https://www.9news.com.au/2018/10/31/16/30/death-sentenced-for-pakistan-woman-at-centre-of-blasphemy-case-quashed-by-court
It is the conservatives in Pakistan are calling for her to be hanged, and threatened wide spread protest and unrest if she is released. In 2011, a bodyguard shot and killed his politician for voicing for Asia Bibi. And now the conservative lunatics are hunting Asia and her family who have gone into hiding.
The liberals and the progressives in Pakistan tried and continue to try to save her. And yet the left and left feminists defends Islam and ignores its oppression of women and persecution of homosexuals. Bizarre. This is where you are fundamentally wrong Matty. The lefties in this country does not defend Islam. Rather its defense of innocent people from being wrongfully blamed for things that they have not committed. The left believe in individual freedom, freedom to choose your own sexuality, religion and life without being bullied or prosecuted. In fact the progressives had been the forefront of battle against religious fundamentalism, both abroad - against Islamic extremism, and at home - against Christian fundamentalism, and right wing - nationalism. Hogwash. The left loves attacking Christianity and always gives Islam a free pass. I mean, for one, you refuse to acknowledge that Islam has far more extremists and is more violent and oppressive of women than any other religions. I can provide many examples of this, happy to do so if you like. Oh Matty, does it ever occur to you that there are also Christians on the left as well. And in fact, Jesus Christ is probably the most well known Socialist you will ever find. And on matters of many issues: like abortion, same sex marriages, institutional sexual abuse etc, even Christians themselves disagrees with each other. And for the record, I am not acknowledge certain religions, because I am of the firm belief that the root of cause of evil and violence in our world are caused by humanity itself. Whether its for fear, for greed, for lust, at the end of the day the underlying basic cause remained the same. Religion are being used as an excuse to hide the true cause, at the same time, its being used as a quick answer. Even if this day, there is no such thing as Islam, our world would still have the same level of violence, just in a different name or ideology. Of course there are left-wing Christians, rose, just as there are right-wing Atheists. Any Rand is a particular influence of mine and she was an unabashed Atheist. Jesus was not a Soialist though, not sure where you derived that idea. Of course there is violence in the world and of course it isn’t all Islam. However, I finding what you say a feeble excuse to ignore or obfuscate the very real threat of Islamic terrorism. The same tactic was used by Ann Aly recently. This kind of terrorism is seen on a global scale and is carried out in the name of Islam. No other religion these days oppresses women, persecutes homosexuals and subjects cruelty to minorities (eg the Baha’i in Iran or the Christians in Syria). Tell me, why do you think that out of all the Middle Eastern Christians, womens and homosexuals have more rights in Israel and Lebanon, and Georgia and Armenia if you add those? The only majority Islam’s country there that allows for freedom of religion and where women and homosexuals have rights is Turkey, and Azerbaija, if you add that. Coincidence that those two countries have church’s and state separated?
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