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Reply #270 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:25pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Well ... they gather data from ship and buoy reports as well as satellite measurements...



yes and where there are no measurements - they estimate.

BTW - did you know that they actually changed the Argo buoy data?

It seems that the Argo buoys were showing cooling. The bloke in charge thought that can't be right, so they adjusted the algorithm.

You would think that they would have actually calibrated the buoys before deployment.
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Reply #271 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:29pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Well ... they gather data from ship and buoy reports as well as satellite measurements...



yes and where there are no measurements - they estimate.

BTW - did you know that they actually changed the Argo buoy data?

It seems that the Argo buoys were showing cooling. The bloke in charge thought that can't be right, so they adjusted the algorithm.

You would think that they would have actually calibrated the buoys before deployment.



Both NASA and NOAA have been fiddling the data for years -

always to make it look hotter.
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Reply #272 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:43pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Well ... they gather data from ship and buoy reports as well as satellite measurements...



yes and where there are no measurements - they estimate.

BTW - did you know that they actually changed the Argo buoy data?

It seems that the Argo buoys were showing cooling. The bloke in charge thought that can't be right, so they adjusted the algorithm.

You would think that they would have actually calibrated the buoys before deployment.


I recon they're desperate to start that trillion dollar carbon derivatives market and financially enslave the whole world, before it cools down too much and they're left holding their dicks in the wind.
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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #273 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
lee wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Well ... they gather data from ship and buoy reports as well as satellite measurements...



yes and where there are no measurements - they estimate.

BTW - did you know that they actually changed the Argo buoy data?

It seems that the Argo buoys were showing cooling. The bloke in charge thought that can't be right, so they adjusted the algorithm.

You would think that they would have actually calibrated the buoys before deployment.



Both NASA and NOAA have been fiddling the data for years -

always to make it look hotter.


What should be the punishment for scientist who knowingly change correct data to suit the politics....??
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Reply #274 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:50pm
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
lee wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Well ... they gather data from ship and buoy reports as well as satellite measurements...



yes and where there are no measurements - they estimate.

BTW - did you know that they actually changed the Argo buoy data?

It seems that the Argo buoys were showing cooling. The bloke in charge thought that can't be right, so they adjusted the algorithm.

You would think that they would have actually calibrated the buoys before deployment.



Both NASA and NOAA have been fiddling the data for years -

always to make it look hotter.


What should be the punishment for scientist who knowingly change correct data to suit the politics....??



Unemployment and public shaming.
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Reply #275 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 10:53pm
 
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Reply #276 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:21am
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
lee wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Well ... they gather data from ship and buoy reports as well as satellite measurements...



yes and where there are no measurements - they estimate.

BTW - did you know that they actually changed the Argo buoy data?

It seems that the Argo buoys were showing cooling. The bloke in charge thought that can't be right, so they adjusted the algorithm.

You would think that they would have actually calibrated the buoys before deployment.



Both NASA and NOAA have been fiddling the data for years -

always to make it look hotter.


What should be the punishment for scientist who knowingly change correct data to suit the politics....??

This is devastating, NASA scientists are on the take!
Take them all out the back, line them up and shoot them.

On the other hand at least there is nothing in the claims of human induced global warming because they are all bullshitting.
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Reply #277 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:36am
 
That's right, none of this is happening because NASA is bullshitting.  Wink


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Reply #278 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:48am
 
lee wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 12th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Well ... they gather data from ship and buoy reports as well as satellite measurements...



yes and where there are no measurements - they estimate.

BTW - did you know that they actually changed the Argo buoy data?

It seems that the Argo buoys were showing cooling. The bloke in charge thought that can't be right, so they adjusted the algorithm.

You would think that they would have actually calibrated the buoys before deployment.


Hmm, your story checks out.

"NASA scientist, Josh Willis, was so concerned that his data, showing ocean cooling, did not fit the official consensus on climate change that he searched for a solution. 

"Eventually he “applied a correction” so the historical ocean temperature record showed a relatively steady increase in line with the climate models."
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Reply #279 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:53am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:36am:
That's right, none of this is happening because NASA is bullshitting.



And then proceeds to provide weather related catastrophes. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #280 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:56am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:48am:
Hmm, your story checks out.


The original -

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/OceanCooling
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Reply #281 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 11:07am
 
The methodology of the GISS is to eliminate erroneous data - such as dealing with urban heat sinks and accounting for moved recording stations etc.

The purpose is to provide the most thorough and accurate data - not to "fit the models" but to get to the facts.

For example:

If they wanted to "cook the books" they would not exclude the temperature data from urban "heat sinks" would they?

That's why they constantly strive to improve the accuracy of the data.

There is no doubt that the GISS data is the best and most thoroughly wide ranging data to provide the best long term climate change picture that is available.

You don't like the picture that the data is showing ... but the picture is reflecting what is happening.

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Reply #282 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 12:24pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 11:07am:
That's why they constantly strive to improve the accuracy of the data.


Which of course does not say it is good.

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 11:07am:
There is no doubt that the GISS data is the best and most thoroughly wide ranging data to provide the best long term climate change picture that is available.



Actually HadCRUt4 is alleged to be the best. And even that is not saying it is good.

"In this research report, the most important surface data adjustment issues are identified and past changes in the previously reported historical data are quantified. It was found that each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history. And, it was nearly always accomplished by
systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern. This was true for all three entities providing GAST data measurement, NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU. "

https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062...

"For station data to be useful for such studies, it is essential that the time series of observations are consistent, and that any non-climatic temperature jumps, introduced by station moves or equipment updates, are eliminated. In adjusted data the effect of such non-climatic influences is eliminated whenever possible. Originally, only documented cases were adjusted, however the current procedure used by NOAA/NCEI applies an automated system that uses systematic comparisons with neighboring stations to deal with undocumented instances of artificial changes."

So how do they know there were actual changes? Neighbouring stations don't necessarily reflect what is happening elsewhere. Eg. A thunderstorm is a local event. It causes cooling. How would a neighbouring station know that?
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Reply #283 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:04pm
 
You either follow the scientific method and investigate things that look odd, cross-check them to see if there is a problem ... or ... like you and your hero Malcolm Roberts ... play the fool.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #284 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:07pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
You either follow the scientific method and investigate things that look odd, cross-check them to see if there is a problem ... or ... like you and your hero Malcolm Roberts ... play the fool.  Roll Eyes

https://i.imgur.com/viMZIvg.jpg


Jesus, that guy's a fair dinkum nutter.

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