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Reply #120 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:09pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:55pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:40pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 2:12pm:

Is there no end to the scientific events that Lee is going to deny?

He must have very wet feet.

He's always in De Nile. Wink

Lee will be along soon with a statistic or two and some squiggles on some graph paper to try and back up whatever it is he is trying to say.

Are you talking about 97% of all scientists in the world?

If not, 97% of which scientists - how big is the group?

xeej?

Surveys of scientists' views on climate change – with a focus on human-caused or anthropogenic global warming (AGW) – have been undertaken since the 1990s.[1] A 2016 paper (which was co-authored by Naomi Oreskes, Peter Doran, William Anderegg, Bart Verheggen, Ed Maibach, J. Stuart Carlton and John Cook, and which was based on a half a dozen independent studies by the authors) concluded that “the finding of 97% consensus [that humans are causing recent global warming] in published climate research is robust and consistent with other surveys of climate scientists and peer-

That's been debunked a hundred times.

You do know that, don't you?

Go to Wiki and amend it then, surprising nobody has isn't it.
When all else fails try the debunked theory.

Jesus Christ, wiki Grin

The 97% claim is total bullshit.

It has been debunked by almost everybody.

The myth of the 97 percent global warming consensus

'97% Of Climate Scientists Agree' Is 100% Wrong

You're fighting a losing battle if that's what you're using as evidence.

In your opinion, Wiki or Greg,,

Absolutely nothing to do with me or my opinion.

I'm being completely objective.

The 97% meme has been completely debunked.

The myth of the 97 percent global warming consensus

"The extreme popularity and success of the 97 percent meme tells us something about the global warming debate and how it is received.

"People gravitate toward simple ways to support and defend their preconceived beliefs.

"Global warming is one of those issues that the believer holds onto with an almost religious fervor.

"As a scientist I learned long ago that there is no point wanting this or that theory to be correct.

"Mother Nature really doesn't care what you believe.

"Instead, I just follow the evidence and generally assume that whatever is developed as an explanation is most likely going to be proved wrong eventually ... as is the case with most published science."

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate ! Reply #121 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:10pm Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:05pm: Are you trying to add or detract from your hypothesis! If I was trying to add to my hypothesis I wouldn't use wiki as the arbitrary authority. You however?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate ! Reply #122 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:09pm: "Mother Nature really doesn't care what you believe." Mother nature doesn't believe in balance either. That is a human construct.
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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #123 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:15pm

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Are you trying to add or detract from your hypothesis!

If I was trying to add to my hypothesis I wouldn't use wiki as the arbitrary authority.

You however? Wink

I could find many more sources to back my hypothesis, when you debunk Wiki I will pull rabbits out of the hat one by one.

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #124 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:18pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:15pm:

I could find many more sources to back my hypothesis, when you debunk Wiki I will pull rabbits out of the hat one by one.

Of course you can petal. Playschool? Grin

"Wikipedia provides Internet users with millions of articles on a broad range of topics, and commonly ranks first in search engines. But its reliability and credibility fall well short of the standards for a school paper. According to Wikipedia itself, “[W]hile some articles are of the highest quality of scholarship, others are admittedly complete rubbish. … use [Wikipedia] with an informed understanding of what it is and what it isn't.”

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/education/2010/march/The-Top-10-Reasons-Stud...

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #125 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:18pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:15pm:

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Are you trying to add or detract from your hypothesis!

If I was trying to add to my hypothesis I wouldn't use wiki as the arbitrary authority.

You however? Wink

I could find many more sources to back my hypothesis, when you debunk Wiki I will pull rabbits out of the hat one by one.

Iffy-pedia: Up to six in ten articles on Wikipedia contain factual errors

"Up to six in ten articles on Wikipedia contain inaccuracies, according to new research.

"The number of factual errors shows just how unreliable it can be to use the online resource as a sole means of digging up information."

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #126 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:15pm:

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Are you trying to add or detract from your hypothesis!

If I was trying to add to my hypothesis I wouldn't use wiki as the arbitrary authority.

You however? Wink

I could find many more sources to back my hypothesis, when you debunk Wiki I will pull rabbits out of the hat one by one.

Iffy-pedia: Up to six in ten articles on Wikipedia contain factual errors

"Up to six in ten articles on Wikipedia contain inaccuracies, according to new research.

"The number of factual errors shows just how unreliable it can be to use the online resource as a sole means of digging up information."

Didn't Obama say "we are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it", he is your God so you must believe him, or Wiki, or both.

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16760 Melbourne Gender:	Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate ! Reply #127 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm There is consensus among the body of Climate Scientists that AGW is real. People can try to argue that point and call in semantics but the consensus is there. The real question is : what are we going to do about it?
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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #128 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:27pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

There is consensus among the body of Climate Scientists that AGW is real.

People can try to argue that point and call in semantics but the consensus is there.

The real question is : what are we going to do about it?

Consensus isn't proof.

Moreover, the 97% consensus thing has been completely and utterly debunked.

It's a lie.

Climate change, however, is real.

Nothing us mere mortals can do about it, though.

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #129 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:27pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

There is consensus among the body of Climate Scientists that AGW is real.

People can try to argue that point and call in semantics but the consensus is there.

The real question is : what are we going to do about it?

Consensus isn't proof.

Moreover, the 97% consensus thing has been completely and utterly debunked.

It's a lie.

Climate change, however, is real.

Nothing us mere mortals can do about it, though.

We won't know if we can't do anything about it if we don't try. Wink

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #130 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:30pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:15pm:

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Are you trying to add or detract from your hypothesis!

If I was trying to add to my hypothesis I wouldn't use wiki as the arbitrary authority.

You however? Wink

I could find many more sources to back my hypothesis, when you debunk Wiki I will pull rabbits out of the hat one by one.

Iffy-pedia: Up to six in ten articles on Wikipedia contain factual errors

"Up to six in ten articles on Wikipedia contain inaccuracies, according to new research.

"The number of factual errors shows just how unreliable it can be to use the online resource as a sole means of digging up information."

Didn't Obama say "we are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it", he is your God so you must believe him, or Wiki, or both.

a) climate change is real - I've never said anything to the contrary.

b) when did I say that Obama is my God?

c) the 97% consensus thing has been totally debunked.

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #131 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:30pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

There is consensus among the body of Climate Scientists that AGW is real.

People can try to argue that point and call in semantics but the consensus is there.

Did you know there used to be a consensus among scientists that the earth was the centre of the known universe?

So much for consensus. Wink

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #132 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:30pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:27pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

There is consensus among the body of Climate Scientists that AGW is real.

People can try to argue that point and call in semantics but the consensus is there.

The real question is : what are we going to do about it?

Consensus isn't proof.

Moreover, the 97% consensus thing has been completely and utterly debunked.

It's a lie.

Climate change, however, is real.

Nothing us mere mortals can do about it, though.

We won't know if we can't do anything about it if we don't try. Wink

How will you know if what you try works?

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Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate !
Reply #133 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:31pm

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:30pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

There is consensus among the body of Climate Scientists that AGW is real.

People can try to argue that point and call in semantics but the consensus is there.

Did you know there used to be a consensus among scientists that the earth was the centre of the known universe?

So much for consensus. Wink

Exactly.

Using 'consensus' as an argument is just ridiculous.

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16760 Melbourne Gender:	Re: David Attenborough gives dire warning on climate ! Reply #134 - Dec 5^th, 2018 at 3:32pm Let's find out if it works eh? Transition to renewables, cut the emissions of CO₂ Slow the rate of deforestation. As Dr. Evil would say: "It's a start."
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