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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #15 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

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Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

I didn't need to include it.

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Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #16 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

Quote:

Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

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I said:

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Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

lets take that 5 that you conveniently added and add it to the 46 =51 V 49.

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #17 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:57pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

Quote:

Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

I didn't need to include it.

I said:

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Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

lets take that 5 that you conveniently added and add it to the 46 =51 V 49.

Why would you add that 5?

As I said, ignore the 5 and 49 is more than 46. Yeah?

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #18 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

Quote:

Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

I didn't need to include it.

I said:

Quote:

Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

lets take that 5 that you conveniently added and add it to the 46 =51 V 49.

Why would you add that 5?

So we have 15% wanting an increase in Muslims and 46% wanting a decrease by a little or a lot. then there are the middle of the roaders.

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #19 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:03pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

Quote:

Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

I didn't need to include it.

I said:

Quote:

Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

lets take that 5 that you conveniently added and add it to the 46 =51 V 49.

Why would you add that 5?

So we have 15% wanting an increase in Muslims and 46% wanting a decrease by a little or a lot. then there are the middle of the roaders.

We have 49% not wanting a reduction in Muslim immigration, and 46% who do.

Either way you look at it, 49 is more than 46. Yeah?

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #20 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:07pm

Ignore the idiot. Gregg is just torturiing numbers to get them to appear to support something they don't.

To break it down for the moron, the single biggest cohort surveyed, 46% want less or much less immigration from Muslim countries. Clear and unambiguous.

Turdy thinks if he adds the second single biggest cohort, which is 35% which wants no change to the smallest cohort who has an actual opinion which is 14% who want an increase, he magically makes those who want an increase to be 49%.

Doesn't work that way Turdy, adding those who don't want an increase to the smaller amount who do, doesn't make 49% who want an increase.

Only 14%, the smallest fraction of those that had an opinion want an increase.

The single biggest majority of the survey at 46% want less or much less.

You don't get to add apples to your oranges. Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #21 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:13pm

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:07pm:

Ignore the idiot. Gregg is just torturiing numbers to get them to appear to support something they don't.

I'm simply providing the facts.

46% want to cut Muslim immigration.

14% want an increase (thus, they don't want to cut Muslim immigration).

35% are happy with the current levels (thus, they don't want to cut Muslim immigration).

So, we have 46% who want to cut Muslim immigration and 49% who don't.

49 is more than 46.

This is just simple mathematics, so I'm not sure why I'm copping personal attacks.

I'm being completely objective.

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #22 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:16pm

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:07pm:

Doesn't work that way Turdy, adding those who don't want an increase to the smaller amount who do, doesn't make 49% who want an increase.

I don't remember anyone ever saying that 49% want an increase.

Can you perhaps provide a link to that post?

Cheers.

What has been said, is this:

- 46% want a cut to Muslim immigration

- 49% do not want a cut to Muslim immigration

These are the simple facts of the matter.

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #23 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

Quote:

Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

I didn't need to include it.

I said:

Quote:

Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

lets take that 5 that you conveniently added and add it to the 46 =51 V 49.

Why would you add that 5?

So we have 15% wanting an increase in Muslims and 46% wanting a decrease by a little or a lot. then there are the middle of the roaders.

We have 49% not wanting a reduction in Muslim immigration, and 46% who do.

Either way you look at it, 49 is more than 46. Yeah?

Of those 35 how many want an increase, nil, of those 46 everyone of them are not happy with the equilibrium, they have an opinion and that is to reduce Muslim immigration.
Either way the movement is on to reduce not just immigration but Muslim immigration and the politicians have acknowledged this.

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Immigration cut within weeks Reply #24 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:19pm Just cull immigration period. No more refugees. No more asylum shoppers. No more free loading pricks with 10 wives making a killing in this country. Those that want to keep it...piss off to the country you want to bring here and enjoy your desires...easy.
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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #25 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:07pm:

Ignore the idiot. Gregg is just torturiing numbers to get them to appear to support something they don't.

I'm simply providing the facts.

46% want to cut Muslim immigration.

14% want an increase (thus, they don't want to cut Muslim immigration).

35% are happy with the current levels (thus, they don't want to cut Muslim immigration).

So, we have 46% who want to cut Muslim immigration and 49% who don't.

49 is more than 46.

This is just simple mathematics, so I'm not sure why I'm copping personal attacks.

I'm being completely objective.

Bwahahaha. "objective". No you are being devious.

You can do your "trick", (though it doesnt really rise to that level) and torture the numbers the other way as well, 46% + 35% = 81% who want no increase or a decrease.

81 is more than 14. Roll Eyes

Gregg you are simpleton and a flog. Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #26 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:22pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

Quote:

Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

I didn't need to include it.

I said:

Quote:

Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

lets take that 5 that you conveniently added and add it to the 46 =51 V 49.

Why would you add that 5?

So we have 15% wanting an increase in Muslims and 46% wanting a decrease by a little or a lot. then there are the middle of the roaders.

We have 49% not wanting a reduction in Muslim immigration, and 46% who do.

Either way you look at it, 49 is more than 46. Yeah?

Of those 35 how many want an increase, nil, ...

That's correct.

And how many of them want a cut? Nil.

And that's what we're talking about - cuts.

49% don't want a cut to Muslim immigration.

This is just a simple fact.

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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #27 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:24pm

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:07pm:

Ignore the idiot. Gregg is just torturiing numbers to get them to appear to support something they don't.

I'm simply providing the facts.

46% want to cut Muslim immigration.

14% want an increase (thus, they don't want to cut Muslim immigration).

35% are happy with the current levels (thus, they don't want to cut Muslim immigration).

So, we have 46% who want to cut Muslim immigration and 49% who don't.

49 is more than 46.

This is just simple mathematics, so I'm not sure why I'm copping personal attacks.

I'm being completely objective.

Bwahahaha. "objective". No you are being devious.

You can do your "trick", (though it doesnt really rise to that level) and torture the numbers the other way as well, 46% + 35% = 81% who want no increase or a decrease.

81 is more than 14. Roll Eyes

Gregg you are simpleton and a flog. Roll Eyes

Nothing devious about it at all.

49% don't want a cut in Muslim immigration.

It's just a fact.

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Term Dog Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1727 Gender:	Re: Immigration cut within weeks Reply #28 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:25pm You guys still respond to lonely greggy, why?
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Re: Immigration cut within weeks
Reply #29 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:22pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

To give Gregg the benefit of a doubt that he probably doesn't deserve, he might not be trying to obfuscate, he may have just missed the last part of the first paragraph.

Quote:

Australian voters are split on whether to cut the number of migrants coming from Muslim countries, as the Morrison government considers an overhaul of immigration and population rules within weeks.

A special Fairfax-Ipsos survey finds only 14 per cent of voters support an increase in the number of immigrants from Muslim countries while 35 per cent believe the intake should stay the same.

But another 46 per cent believe the intake should be reduced a lot or a little - a position backed by a clear majority of Coalition voters and one third of Labor voters.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fairfax-ipsos-poll-australians-split-on-muslim-migration-ahead-of-new-population-policy-20181118-p50gt0.html

I didn't need to include it.

I said:

Quote:

Only about 5% seem to be undecided.

14% want an increase, and 35% are happy with the current levels.

5 + 14 + 35 = 54.

Anyone with a basic understanding of maths would know that that leaves 46% who want immigration numbers reduced.

I hasten to add that 54 is more than 46.

Why would you add that 5.

Okay.

Add 2.5

51.5 is still more than 46

Or, ignore the 5

49 is still more than 46

lets take that 5 that you conveniently added and add it to the 46 =51 V 49.

Why would you add that 5?

So we have 15% wanting an increase in Muslims and 46% wanting a decrease by a little or a lot. then there are the middle of the roaders.

We have 49% not wanting a reduction in Muslim immigration, and 46% who do.

Either way you look at it, 49 is more than 46. Yeah?

Of those 35 how many want an increase, nil, ...

That's correct.

And how many of them want a cut? Nil.

And that's what we're talking about - cuts.

49% don't want a cut to Muslim immigration.

This is just a simple fact.

Of that 49 only 15 want an increase.
Of that 46 everyone wants a reduction.
The government has acknowledged that the Muslims are on the nose, even if you haven't.

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