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"At this point, just about everyone recognizes that the climate is changing. Even Donald Trump says, "I think something's happening." Now, the question being debated is why the climate is changing.

Though there may be a public debate, there's no debate among scientists like us — decades of research have demonstrated that human activities, primarily the emission of carbon dioxide from the combustion of fossil fuels, are driving the climate change we are experiencing.

To understand why we are so confident, it's useful to think about climate change as a whodunit. Climate does not change by itself, so scientists are detectives trying to solve the mystery of what has been warming the Earth for the past century."

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/science-climate-chan...

Hmm. One wonders why climate changes at all then. It wasn't CO2, apparently, previously. One also wonders why they concentrate on the last century only.

Ans why they ignore the global cooling scare of the 60's and 70's.



Then of course the recent paper that says CO2 is causing cooling over Antarctica.

minarchist wrote on Oct 26^th, 2018 at 10:46am:


So you are going with the consensus view on climate science?

BTW - Where did you get your info from? Ah I see that blog Skep Sci, that has the misinterpretation of data. From 97.1% of 33.6% of climate papers to magically 97% of scientists.

"What follows is a list of over 285 papers published during the 1960s, 70s and 80s showing there was a near consensus of an imminent global cooling – a point that some activist scientists falsely dispute. They should have been far more careful in their review of the literature."

http://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-1/

http://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-2/#sthash.SxQ2cmJb.dpbs

http://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-3/#sthash.rTVF3ylB.dpbs

From what you wrote over 278 papers must have been published in the 1980's.

lee wrote on Oct 26^th, 2018 at 11:55am:


For a long time, I was a MMGW skeptic and believed that the drop in sunspot would see a downward shift in global temperatures that would result in a mini ice age. As we approach the end of this decade and as sunspot numbers continue to drop, I questioned whether we'd see this mini ice age by the mid-late 2020's as currently predicted. Reviewing the information that is out there on Climate Change, my current interpretation of the data is that there has been a disconnect between global temperatures and solar output over the last 30 - 40 years, suggesting that CO2 is currently the main driver of global temperatures.

Given that rate of increase in global temperatures has reduced somewhat, but appears to continue in an upward trend, I believe that the continual drop in sunspot numbers will result in a stagnation or a possible drop in global temperatures, which we are currently seeing since cooler ocean waters results in more CO2 absorption. This will probably continue until sunspot numbers begin to increase again. I don 't think that Gore - like predictions relating to Global Warming will come to pass but I think that implementing technologies that reduce CO2 are warranted, although probably not at the rate that some want them to be implemented.

In regards to your links regarding to what the consensus was during the 70's in relation to climate, I think the links demonstrate that was many more papers pointing towards a global cooling trend based on the data and science at the time, which contradicts what was said in the video.

Pho Huc wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 7:27pm:



Not the IPCC. Was there something you disagreed with?

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2018 at 8:12pm:



So you have evidence of something that forces climate to change?

You do know the difference between evidence and supposition?

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:



I am saying no one knows.

let's see "it is the sun". "No it's not"
"It is CO2". "H2O has a larger impact than CO2"
"It is volcanic action". "Volcanic action has short term effects"

But I await your learned response.

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2018 at 9:04pm:


exactly right. And the answer is still the same "no on knows".The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2018 at 9:04pm:


Ah you want me to make something up to appease your sensibilities about man knowing everything.

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2018 at 9:29pm:



Oh you want an honest debate. Give us YOUR view on the causes of climate change. There must be more than the simplistic CO2 dunnit.

A debate is at least two sides exchanging ideas. So far you have done nothing but "snipe" at my perceived weak response.