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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #30 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:49pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:38am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:35am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
Berlin is about to fall...

This will be the First Islamic State in Europe..

our Governments are betraying us...

Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN...

then we'd have seen here, as in the video above...

we dodged a bullet... for now/...

but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us...

im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future..


Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out.

Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe.




Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society.

Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference.

These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out.


Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion?

Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion?

I'm sure you have.

Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims?

I'm curious.


https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366...


The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it?

There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards...

https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg


I didn't quite get your answer.

The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims?



They're not demanding, Grigor, as you well know.... you old Issueophobe, you...


Have you ever had a Muslim knock on your door, with children in tow, informing you about their religion?

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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #31 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:38am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:35am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
Berlin is about to fall...

This will be the First Islamic State in Europe..

our Governments are betraying us...

Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN...

then we'd have seen here, as in the video above...

we dodged a bullet... for now/...

but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us...

im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future..


Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out.

Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe.




Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society.

Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference.

These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out.


Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion?

Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion?

I'm sure you have.

Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims?

I'm curious.


https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366...


The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it?

There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards...

https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg


I didn't quite get your answer.

The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims?



They're not demanding, Grigor, as you well know.... you old Issueophobe, you...


Have you ever had a Muslim knock on your door, with children in tow, informing you about their religion?



Have you ever had a Seven Dayer preacher state on TV that Australia should become a Seven Dayer nation or those who dissent should be executed or deported?

The door knockers are just trying to sell their brand, not demand it.  Stop twisting the words...
Sometimes your arguments have some value, Grigor - this is just desperate clutching at a straw...
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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #32 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
I was in London last month.

I can tell you this, I see more Muslims in a day here in Vic Park than I saw in a day in London.

And Vic Park is a great place to live.




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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #33 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:57pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:38am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:35am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
Berlin is about to fall...

This will be the First Islamic State in Europe..

our Governments are betraying us...

Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN...

then we'd have seen here, as in the video above...

we dodged a bullet... for now/...

but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us...

im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future..


Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out.

Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe.




Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society.

Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference.

These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out.


Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion?

Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion?

I'm sure you have.

Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims?

I'm curious.


https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366...


The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it?

There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards...

https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg


I didn't quite get your answer.

The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims?



They're not demanding, Grigor, as you well know.... you old Issueophobe, you...


Have you ever had a Muslim knock on your door, with children in tow, informing you about their religion?



Have you ever had a Seven Dayer preacher state on TV that Australia should become a Seven Dayer nation or those who dissent should be executed or deported?

The door knockers are just trying to sell their brand, not demand it.  Stop twisting the words...
Sometimes your arguments have some value, Grigor - this is just desperate clutching at a straw...


So, that's a 'no'?

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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #34 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am:
I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You?

Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either.

What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage?

We grew here.



If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory...

Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries...
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Reply #35 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am:
I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You?

Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either.

What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage?

We grew here.



If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory...

Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries...


As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims.

Have you been there lately, to see for yourself?

It's nothing like "they" say it is.



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Reply #36 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am:
I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You?

Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either.

What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage?

We grew here.



If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory...

Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries...


As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims.

Have you been there lately, to see for yourself?

It's nothing like "they" say it is.



Same with Paris.

I was approached by four criminal con-artists while I was there, and they were all young, white, French girls.

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Reply #37 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 2:53pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input.


People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want.

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How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  Wink


Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   Roll Eyes

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People are worried, and rightly so.


People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie.

"What happens in the UK concerns the UK?"

And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here?

Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey.

And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe?

You need a labrador & a white cane.



The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just the UK. And your waffle above proves my point.

Australia is going down the same path.

Geographic location & size of the continent is irrelevant.

I recommend Black Hawk or Advance Dogs foods for your Labrador.


The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population.

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really?

Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #38 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 4:01pm
 
In 20 -30 years time Muslim integration may likely be fine..or it may not.

Young Muslims in the UK currently feel besieged and that same sentiment can be found in a percentage of the Australian Muslim demographic due to the actions of Islamic terrorist.

They feel like the west hates them.

There is a sense of tiring familiarity unfolding with terrorism. A catastrophe averted, a crisis remains like a dark cloud.

Terrorism  gives justification for the far right groups to espouse their hate....and on it goes round and round until the issue of radicalisation is addressed.

An extreme Islamic ideology of Jihad has been around for eons, the view society has been corrupted and needs to return to fundamental religiosity, a belief which is not just held by ISIS or the Taliban etc its a fundamental belief for devout followers.

Which will mean the battle against terror will carry on for years unless that issue is addressed by Islamic leaders (good luck getting a religious consensus on that) or Muslim youth who cannot feel like they have integrated compatibly with being Muslim and the west can or will be enticed into extreme actions.

To solve for an integration future will take a concerned effort on peoples attitudes towards Muslims, to be more accepting, more so than any other immigrant demographic, because of the vulnerability of Muslim youth to extremist ideologue.

The far right do not help who are by their efforts are isolating a percentage of the Muslim people, while not necessarily religious people will culturally think themselves Muslims and feeling alienated enough into taking up violent acts with religious salvation.

Muslims need also to culturally compromise to integrate as well...less of the identifying conservative clothing and accept the west warts and all rather than isolate themselves from the west hiding behind niqabs, shrouds and fundamentalist regalia.

Such as it goes one doesn't feel optimistic that all Muslims will integrate as well as others and that dark cloud remains for the children.

Then the biggest dark cloud overhanging the children is climate change.


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Reply #39 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
I don't think you needed to go any further than that bit about terrorism makes some young Muslims feel 'besieged'... they're not alone in that, BTW - and references to extreme right wing groups etc has no foundation here... those - like trannies, are so minor that nobody every hears or cares about them.

Discussion of concerns and potential solutions to the problems of terrorism is NOT 'extreme right wing' - it is normal for normal people to be concerned, especially when 'young Muslims' kill people outside police HQ to 'make a statement' about some deluded Islamist idea, or a Muslim drills a cafe manager and leads to the death of an innocent, or a group of rabid Muslims rally and hold up placards threatening killing and worse for people they don't even know, and the news is filled with Muslims carrying out multiple death attacks on innocent bystanders in Europe and so forth.

Musselman - heal thyself!  First rip the log from thine own eye before you rave about the splinter in the eye of another.....
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Reply #40 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 6:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population.

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really?

Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Then I'm so happy to see we're all on the same page then - we halt Muslim immigration at its present level and begin the tortuous and arduous path to integration... first step - stop the prevention of beautiful young Muslim women being married to non-Muslims of their choice ...... send the mullahs to sensitivity training with other religious people and to comparative religion courses so they truly understand what the others are about .... hold a few rallies of moderates who burn the 'behead the infidel' signs and such... maybe even allow some Muslim allies to march on ANZAC Day as everyone else gets to do...

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Reply #41 - Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:46am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input.


People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want.

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How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  Wink


Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   Roll Eyes

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People are worried, and rightly so.


People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie.

"What happens in the UK concerns the UK?"

And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here?

Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey.

And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe?

You need a labrador & a white cane.



The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just the UK. And your waffle above proves my point.

Australia is going down the same path.

Geographic location & size of the continent is irrelevant.

I recommend Black Hawk or Advance Dogs foods for your Labrador.


The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population.

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really?

Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar.

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Reply #42 - Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:51am
 
Pedro Curevo wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 4:01pm:
In 20 -30 years time Muslim integration may likely be fine..or it may not.

Young Muslims in the UK currently feel besieged and that same sentiment can be found in a percentage of the Australian Muslim demographic due to the actions of Islamic terrorist.

They feel like the west hates them.

There is a sense of tiring familiarity unfolding with terrorism. A catastrophe averted, a crisis remains like a dark cloud.

Terrorism  gives justification for the far right groups to espouse their hate....and on it goes round and round until the issue of radicalisation is addressed.

An extreme Islamic ideology of Jihad has been around for eons, the view society has been corrupted and needs to return to fundamental religiosity, a belief which is not just held by ISIS or the Taliban etc its a fundamental belief for devout followers.

Which will mean the battle against terror will carry on for years unless that issue is addressed by Islamic leaders (good luck getting a religious consensus on that) or Muslim youth who cannot feel like they have integrated compatibly with being Muslim and the west can or will be enticed into extreme actions.

To solve for an integration future will take a concerned effort on peoples attitudes towards Muslims, to be more accepting, more so than any other immigrant demographic, because of the vulnerability of Muslim youth to extremist ideologue.

The far right do not help who are by their efforts are isolating a percentage of the Muslim people, while not necessarily religious people will culturally think themselves Muslims and feeling alienated enough into taking up violent acts with religious salvation.

Muslims need also to culturally compromise to integrate as well...less of the identifying conservative clothing and accept the west warts and all rather than isolate themselves from the west hiding behind niqabs, shrouds and fundamentalist regalia.

Such as it goes one doesn't feel optimistic that all Muslims will integrate as well as others and that dark cloud remains for the children.

Then the biggest dark cloud overhanging the children is climate change.


 


Grin No their indoctrinators hate the west & pass that onto the youth even though they live in the west.

They perpetually play the victim card.

Then you go & stuff up your post by throwing in "climate change".  Roll Eyes
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Reply #43 - Oct 18th, 2018 at 7:25am
 
Lets just get the terminology right here people

islam is a CULT not a religion.

It fits every definition of a CULT to the letter
Its followers are terrified to leave, as with all CULTS.

Please refer to this CULT of DEAT as it truely is........
A CULT OF DEATH
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A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #44 - Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:15am
 
Pedro Curevo wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 4:01pm:
In 20 -30 years time Muslim integration may likely be fine..or it may not.

Young Muslims in the UK currently feel besieged and that same sentiment can be found in a percentage of the Australian Muslim demographic due to the actions of Islamic terrorist.

They feel like the west hates them.

There is a sense of tiring familiarity unfolding with terrorism. A catastrophe averted, a crisis remains like a dark cloud.

Terrorism  gives justification for the far right groups to espouse their hate....and on it goes round and round until the issue of radicalisation is addressed.

An extreme Islamic ideology of Jihad has been around for eons, the view society has been corrupted and needs to return to fundamental religiosity, a belief which is not just held by ISIS or the Taliban etc its a fundamental belief for devout followers.

Which will mean the battle against terror will carry on for years unless that issue is addressed by Islamic leaders (good luck getting a religious consensus on that) or Muslim youth who cannot feel like they have integrated compatibly with being Muslim and the west can or will be enticed into extreme actions.

To solve for an integration future will take a concerned effort on peoples attitudes towards Muslims, to be more accepting, more so than any other immigrant demographic, because of the vulnerability of Muslim youth to extremist ideologue.

The far right do not help who are by their efforts are isolating a percentage of the Muslim people, while not necessarily religious people will culturally think themselves Muslims and feeling alienated enough into taking up violent acts with religious salvation.

Muslims need also to culturally compromise to integrate as well...less of the identifying conservative clothing and accept the west warts and all rather than isolate themselves from the west hiding behind niqabs, shrouds and fundamentalist regalia.

Such as it goes one doesn't feel optimistic that all Muslims will integrate as well as others and that dark cloud remains for the children.

Then the biggest dark cloud overhanging the children is climate change.


 

That's like saying give me your lunch money or I am going to beat you up.
Or,
Be nice to us Muslims or our kids will blow you up when they grow up.
Its a similar line that Turnbull used about a year ago as to why we cant stop Muslim immigration.
They play by our rules or they can bugger off.

SHUT THE GATES and WELD THEM SHUT.
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